SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

[Cardboard elk]

How many people are they testing now per day?

I don't know but I read that the reason for the surge was more data coming from nursing and retirement homes. For testing numbers you can go to this link on wikipedia and scroll down a bit, every countrys testing numbers are there :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_testing

Acc. to the info there UK has done 327,608 tests by 16th april. In Norway we have tested 133,707 as of 15th. Pretty low numbers for testing in the UK if this is correct.

 

[Dancfc]

Of course, as is to be expected.
But this is brilliant news man. Love seeing other countries around us getting light at the end of the tunnel and planning ahead. Go on Poland.

I always look at the little battles, few weeks ago all we had to look for was Italy not rising as badly as usual but now we are starting to see exit plans around us and not to mention Sweden's bold move not as of yet backfiring (touch wood).

I'm very confident some restrictions will be lifted in three weeks here (if nothing else because they have to be or the economy collapses) and If the rumoured traffic light plan is legit we will be able to visit freinds and family again which I can't wait to do.

 

[sullydnl]

Unless clapping can bring a health service back to life a la Tinkerbell, promising not to vote Tory again would be a far more useful thing to do for the NHS.

But of course that won't happen. So frontline healthcare staff will have to make do with applause until this crisis is over, at which point they'll go back to being as underappreciated as they normally are.

 

[Wibble]

I cycle from April - Nov/Dec and get the train from Dec-April. I tend to get sniffles from Dec - April. There could be a huge increase in cyclists though and then Geebs point stands for possible transmission from cyclists to others but still seems a lot more hygenic and health to use the bike.

Agreed.

 

[sammsky1]

Friends of mine in Australia seem quite optimistic and also happy with their Government

 

[Josep Dowling]

#Prayfor... fecks me off no end as well. Literally what will praying achieve in a time of strife like, for instance, a mass shooting? People flood social media with this sort of nonsense but don’t actually do anything meaningful to support.

I’m not religious myself and think the idea of prayer is a waste of time but don’t you think people use it as a coping mechanism? It might seem like bollocks to you but if someone wants to prayer what exactly is the issue?

Unless clapping can bring a health service back to life a la Tinkerbell, promising not to vote Tory again would be a far more useful thing to do for the NHS.

But of course that won't happen. So frontline healthcare staff will have to make do with applause until this crisis is over, at which point they'll go back to being as underappreciated as they normally are.

There is a whole host of regulars posting the same thing on this thread. Why don’t you just open a new thread called ‘I hate tories’.

 

[SalfordRed18]

It means something to people that matter to people.

Don’t get jaded. NHS staff are buoyed by it.

Remove the politics. Make a noise. Be a good person. That’s it.

The queen can Fcuk off though.

Bollocks. Junior Doctors would rather PPE and a payrise rather than a measly clap by some narcissistic Tory wanker.

 

[dumbo]

If you had to open a new thread for every permutation of evil Tory feckery then this forum would be swamped. A Tory is a cnut, you don't need a seperate thread for tautology.

 

[Wibble]

Friends of mine in Australia seem quite optimistic and also happy with their Government

They haven't totally fecked things up like they have for everything they did before this e.g. bush fire response. But they have also been useless (Ruby Princess fiasco) and lucky - no mass infection from overseas prior to restrictions. The PM is still flailing around confusing people by trying to adjust everything he says and some of what he does to keep the even further right of his party happy/quiet.

But we are doing well in terms of infections/deaths and the economic measures have helped.

 

[Mr Pigeon]

Bolsanovo (can't be arsed checking the spelling so I also like to call him Shit Face) has fired his health minister for saying they need to enact social distancing. This piece of shit is going to be responsible for untold deaths. I didn't think you could find a scummier person than Trump during all of this but there you go.

 

[Dan_F]

Slovenia will be lifting some restrictions starting next week. Technical stores and services open on Monday, while the next batch, which includes hairdressers, cosmetic salons, non-essential stores (excluding ones located in shopping centres), and outside non-contact sport centres, open up on May 4th. No word on restaurants, bars or public transport yet.

So that's something.

I saw that news. Although Ljubljana probably has a supermarket for every 20 people, so much easier to socially distance. Still blows my mind every time I go there how many there are for such a small city.

 

[Dancfc]

I saw that news. Although Ljubljana probably has a supermarket for every 20 people, so much easier to socially distance. Still blows my mind every time I go there how many there are for such a small city.

I live in a very remote town and I have an Asda, two Tesco's, a further Tesco express, two Iceland's and LIDL all within walking distance.

It was handy during the peak panic buying period, between all seven stores I just about managed to get everything I needed bar bog roll.

 

[Sweet Square]

Spot on, bravo.

Well this was unexpected but cheers.

People have slightly lost their minds a bit and seemingly can't wait to call the police on the rest of us.

 

[JMack1234]

Woah.

I'm watching Sky News at the US is unveiling plans re-opening of society. Not putting anything too specific date wise for obvious reasons, just letting the citizens what the plan is.

I'm absolutely staggered. I know it shouldn't be but I live in the UK and have been told ad nauseam by our most esteemed health secretary (and others to be fair to old Hancock) that the mere mention of an exit strategy isn't okay. In fact today Matt looked was getting quite chippy at those journalists daring to ask about such a strategy.

 

[sammsky1]

They haven't totally fecked things up like they have for everything they did before this e.g. bush fire response. But they have also been useless (Ruby Princess fiasco) and lucky - no mass infection from overseas prior to restrictions. The PM is still flailing around confusing people by trying to adjust everything he says and some of what he does to keep the even further right of his party happy/quiet.

But we doing well in terms of infections/deaths and the economic measures have helped.

This is what my friend wrote:

In as much as I thought full lockdown was the only way, I have now realised how lucky we are to live in a country where the government is actually on top of things and it’s working.

Shutting down international travel and quarantining incoming passengers, school from home, social distancing and WFH, and businesses like takeaways and (critically) Bunnings remaining open has been effective. Yes, it’s trying to be home based but we still get to buy our creature comforts. We can’t hang with our friends and families but we get to do driveway drinks with our neighbours. We’ve had to cancel things like our wedding but can still go outside to exercise and in our areas to swim in the ocean.

As it stands we’ve avoided the health system crisis that other countries have faced. In addition the government support of small business and individuals is not something I’ve ever seen in my life.

Today I am feeling encouraged. There is talk of relaxing some restrictions in coming weeks too, and kids going back to school.

 

[Suedesi]

Except there was a Belgian study done on joggers and cyclists.. you wouldn’t want to be traveling in their slipstream

More like a white paper with no citations, no disclosed methodology, not peer-reviewed. It was an aerodynamic simulation rather than a virology study.

Havent there been several cases? We probably dont know unless we test for antibodies.. find it in someone and then have them get infected again.. Till then, I guess any reinfection could just be a case of someone not recovering and just having a false negative.

That said, I searched for Covid reinfection and saw these two articles from yesterday..
https://qz.com/1837798/why-some-covid-19-patients-might-have-tested-positive-twice/
and more importantly
https://www.thelcn.com/news/local/l...cle_f4255ff3-71df-572a-af8a-23785a8eeffb.html

So the person tested positive 3 weeks after he/she initially stopped showing symptoms.. Probably 2+ of those weeks symptom free as well.

Is that reinfection or relapse? That's crucially important!

 

[christy87]

Woah.

I'm watching Sky News at the US is unveiling plans re-opening of society. Not putting anything too specific date wise for obvious reasons, just letting the citizens what the plan is.

I'm absolutely staggered. I know it shouldn't be but I live in the UK and have been told ad nauseam by our most esteemed health secretary (and others to be fair to old Hancock) that the mere mention of an exit strategy isn't okay. In fact today Matt looked was getting quite chippy at those journalists daring to ask about such a strategy.

Look at there leader in a week he’ll call that fake news and deny it being on the agenda

 

[Suedesi]

Gilead up big, and stock futures up 3% on reports ths\at Gilead drug showing effectiveness treating coronavirus

 

[JMack1234]

Look at there leader in a week he’ll call that fake news and deny it being on the agenda

Maybe, Trump is a total clown.

However, at the very least the US government has the decency to tell their citizens what the plan is.

 

[yumtum]

Unless clapping can bring a health service back to life a la Tinkerbell, promising not to vote Tory again would be a far more useful thing to do for the NHS.

But of course that won't happen. So frontline healthcare staff will have to make do with applause until this crisis is over, at which point they'll go back to being as underappreciated as they normally are.

The Tories run a good PR campaign, and the Labour party has been split for years, do you really think the general public (who are idiots) would vote for someone like Corbyn?

Labour need to get their act together before you can start blaming the public - if they do get their act together and the public still vote Tory, then you can complain.

 

[FrankDrebin]

Westminster Bridge

 

[Suedesi]

Someone from the U.S. knows if the 22 million people that lost their employment are still covered in case they get COVID-19? or the white house/states have nothing planned on that?

Yes, the White House specifically said that coronavirus treatment would be covered by the stimulus package.

There are also state plans for low cost or completely free. A relative who lost his job, was able to enroll for Medicaid and Blue Cross Blue Shield for free in early despite being it past enrollment phase. He's effectively got full coverage, zero deductibles! (which is what Bernie was advocating all along).

Just as I'm typing this, the city is clapping for HCW

 

[DavidDeSchmikes]

Westminster Bridge

Social Distancing does not apply

 

[Raoul]

 

[Wibble]

This is what my friend wrote:

In as much as I thought full lockdown was the only way, I have now realised how lucky we are to live in a country where the government is actually on top of things and it’s working.

Shutting down international travel and quarantining incoming passengers, school from home, social distancing and WFH, and businesses like takeaways and (critically) Bunnings remaining open has been effective. Yes, it’s trying to be home based but we still get to buy our creature comforts. We can’t hang with our friends and families but we get to do driveway drinks with our neighbours. We’ve had to cancel things like our wedding but can still go outside to exercise and in our areas to swim in the ocean.

As it stands we’ve avoided the health system crisis that other countries have faced. In addition the government support of small business and individuals is not something I’ve ever seen in my life.

Today I am feeling encouraged. There is talk of relaxing some restrictions in coming weeks too, and kids going back to school.

That isn't a bad summary although keeping schools open has been very confusing and has had a horrible impact on teachers. They say schools shouldn't remain closed (which they aren't but want to be) and then threaten defunding for not complying, which they are even if the vast msjority of kids are learning st home (also as per government advice).

What is causing the mixed messages is the government wants to defund public education but it is the private sector (who the PM loves) who don't want to open as their students generally all have Macs, broadband connections and often a non-working parent at home. It is messing with his mind and he doesn't cope with criticism or non-compliance very well (plus he has the empathy of a rock) as we saw with his woeful performance with the bushfires.

The worst outcome of this is that this terrible government may get away with their incompetence. They were handling the economy badly but can now blame Covid-19.

 

[Port Vale Devil]

Nice to see a bit of hope on here now and again.

 

[Raoul]

Nice to see a bit of hope on here now and again.

Markets are surging on this news. Hope its legit.

 

[sammsky1]

he doesn't cope with criticism or non-compliance very well (plus he has the empathy of a rock)

I don’t follow Australian politics at all but Bunnings sounds like Trump?!

I do love Masterchef Australia though and am delighted it’s back and watching it very morning, after I download episode from night before!

 

[Rado_N]

Social Distancing does not apply

fecking hell people are stupid.

 

[FrankDrebin]

Social Distancing does not apply

Just sent this to someone I know who's a carer. Reply was in the form of emojis :

 

[Dante]

Social Distancing does not apply

 

[sammsky1]

Meanwhile ..... claps for the queen?
(not sure what thread this belongs to, but it's comedy gold .... read the comments!!!)



Fogle then throws his kid under the bus, which totally backfires

 

[SalfordRed18]

Social Distancing does not apply

We're living out an episode of Black Mirror and this just confirms it.

 

[Suedesi]

Woah.

I'm watching Sky News at the US is unveiling plans re-opening of society. Not putting anything too specific date wise for obvious reasons, just letting the citizens what the plan is.

I'm absolutely staggered. I know it shouldn't be but I live in the UK and have been told ad nauseam by our most esteemed health secretary (and others to be fair to old Hancock) that the mere mention of an exit strategy isn't okay. In fact today Matt looked was getting quite chippy at those journalists daring to ask about such a strategy.

UK government went from herd immunity to total lockdown. Complete nonsense

 

[prateik]

feck me. Just noticed the mortality rate in Italy is 15%.
They have done 20k tests /million as well, which is pretty decent..
Must be pretty widespread and have a lot lot more undetected cases..

 

[Suedesi]

Gilead up big, and stock futures up 3% on reports ths\at Gilead drug showing effectiveness treating coronavirus

Con’t

I am skeptical of clinical trials showing promising results headlines as thereis no control group in the critical study, but these are unprecedented times so I’ll have a drink to any glimmer of positive news!

 

[buchansleftleg]

As a Police officer in a large town of over one hundred and fifty thousand people in the UK, I have started work on the morning where there were 4 officers. Me, a pregnant lady who was desk bound, and two new starters, who weren't allowed to drive. We couldn't have locked down a single street in the worse areas, especially with the softly softly approach we have been instructed to take.

Isn't that the plot to Assault on Precinct 13?

 

[Revan]

Nice to see a bit of hope on here now and again.

Remdesivir was supposed to be the most likely drug with a good outcome since the very beginning. Just that Trump decided that hydroxychloroquine is the real deal.

 

[Suedesi]

Social Distancing does not apply

Staggering! No masks, no social distancing

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

Bolsanovo (can't be arsed checking the spelling so I also like to call him Shit Face) has fired his health minister for saying they need to enact social distancing. This piece of shit is going to be responsible for untold deaths. I didn't think you could find a scummier person than Trump during all of this but there you go.

Shitface is fine. Dickhead, knob and mass murderer are all also acceptable.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-52316150