I was thinking about that as well actually. The problem is that it would have to be literally everybody around the world, including the medical and key staff in all countries.
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I was thinking about that as well actually. The problem is that it would have to be literally everybody around the world, including the medical and key staff in all countries.
I can't read the second article from the EU, but every case of reinfection so far seems to be based on shaky ground. Dodgy testing, early hospital discharge, things like that.
And influenza right? As far as my understanding goes influenza didn't even exist 120 years ago. Right?
Incorrect.
Poxy strep. I had that MF 3 times in a year when I was 16
Some possible evidence that temperature will have an effect on the virus from Spain, although not enough to safely draw conclusions. Over the last few weeks they have found a correlation between temperature and number of cases:
http://www.ciencia.gob.es/portal/si...-aemet&utm_medium=email&utm_source=acumbamail
http://www.ciencia.gob.es/portal/si...-aemet&utm_medium=email&utm_source=acumbamail
It's advice you dork, not British law. Again for the millionth time the guy filming did nothing wrong he was filming an arrest(Which you are allowed to do and hasn't change since the pandemic)and was keeping his social distance until the police tried to stop him filming. Also did you not see the part of the video where he told the police that he was on his walk ?
The reason I'm using a ludicrous example is because you're stance is insane. If we apply you're view then it would mean the police always breaking social distancing every time they saw someone not moving(The government advice doesn't say you can stand still and check you're shopping list, so..........Go wild in the aisles!) So instead of having the police watch over the public, they would end up in continuous face to face contact with the public.
Again would have you been fine with the guy recording had he been running on the spot while also recording the video ?
So what's the deal? Why have a read it on affluent websites?
Mate, it’s pointless . I gave up, let the stupid continue to be stupid.
Can't Rishi Sunak just continue to give the updates instead of this bellend?
Jesus Christ, the government announce an extended lockdown and the first thing Laura Kuennesberg asks when is the lockdown ending? Why the feck is she asking that, everyday she asks shite questions. Stealing a living in journalism and that nob end Peston.
Cool. Glad to hear it. Hopefully they can link up and roll out the same tech all over Europe.
My quarantine Spanish hasn't improved enough to translate that yet, but would imagine there's a correlation between temperature and latitude, and a correlation between latitude and number of cases simply due to proximity to the outbreak in the rest of Europe. Has that been controlled for?Some possible evidence that temperature will have an effect on the virus from Spain, although not enough to safely draw conclusions. Over the last few weeks they have found a correlation between temperature and number of cases:
http://www.ciencia.gob.es/portal/si...-aemet&utm_medium=email&utm_source=acumbamail
I have a general question: does anybody know if the NHS, or other charities, are providing online opportunities to get involved in mental health initiatives to support people and/or front-line workers?
I'll make a full disclosure that I was asked this question at work but I think it's an excellent one as I'm not sure what current opps are available.
I'll make a full disclosure that I was asked this question at work but I think it's an excellent one as I'm not sure what current opps are available.
Some possible evidence that temperature will have an effect on the virus from Spain, although not enough to safely draw conclusions. Over the last few weeks they have found a correlation between temperature and number of cases:
http://www.ciencia.gob.es/portal/si...-aemet&utm_medium=email&utm_source=acumbamail
Fecking great news, if so. Like I said a few posts back. We could do with a fecking break. Been bad news after bad news about this damn virus for far too long.
Spot on, bravo.
She's a fecking idiot, waste of a question. Raab even gave her the chance to come back with another question.
Did China not eventually reach zero mainland cases?
Well siad. I thought the bloke was being a prick. Just because you post some shit on twitter you're not a journalist. If he is a jobbing journo then he's a shit one because there is clearly no story there.
Even if that was true.
The sort of lockdown China imposes will not work here. People will not tolerate it.
On the topic of how long-term the social restrictions stay in place for in the UK, give us your guess for when we next see Old Trafford at max capacity. I.e. the date you think is closest to being 50:50.
I'm still thinking. Although unlikely I don't even think 2022 is an unreasonable guess.
I'm still thinking. Although unlikely I don't even think 2022 is an unreasonable guess.
It sounds like you were just desperately unlucky. A globule of someone’s sneezed out spittle must have got caught on an up-draft, wafted over your garden fence and up your nose. Shite luck but there you go. If that other person hadn’t been out and about your home would still be germ free.
That would be like my luck alright
I just found out that my next door neighbour thought that she had Covid too
I have a question hopefully someone on here can answer...
Say we come out of lock down 3 weeks from now but have no Vaccine, how are we in a more advantageous position to before we entered lock down? Does a virus' potency decline over time? If so, do you have any sources to explain this?
Say we come out of lock down 3 weeks from now but have no Vaccine, how are we in a more advantageous position to before we entered lock down? Does a virus' potency decline over time? If so, do you have any sources to explain this?
Obviously they can't give a date for lock down to be over, that's pretty pointless at best, and risky at worst.
But they "could" give some idea of what the first measures for easing the lockdown would be. But I suppose again that's not wise, as if things change, they'll just be hassled with "you said....."
But they "could" give some idea of what the first measures for easing the lockdown would be. But I suppose again that's not wise, as if things change, they'll just be hassled with "you said....."
You've stopped it spreading massively out of control and obliterating the NHS system, and having a much higher death toll.
We won't be out of total lockdown for a long way into the future, 3 weeks is the minimum, which might be extended, and after that would gradually be reduced.
In that time, social distancing continues, and gradually that key "R" figure, the amount of people that are being infected off an individual reduces.
How does it buggar off completely? Who knows. Short of everyone staying inside for a month, or everyone getting it, then who knows.
Stopped everyone going to hospital at the same time, bought is 3 weeks to get closer to finding a possible vaccine, stopped the spread at a high rate.
Surely you would have to keep the majority of lock down rules in place until a Vaccine is available? We all saw how quickly this fecker can spread.
+17164 cases in France now. That was a huge leap all of a sudden.
I would not be injected with a vaccine this side of 2023.
A vaccine is the only absolute solution, but nobody is going to be queuing up to get one immediately.
Not sure it's realistic to keep things too locked down for a year. People will eventually revolt.
I guess we'll find out from other countries and see how their reduction of lockdowns go.
Maybe not China, as people don't trust their figures or transparency, but definitely the France/Italy/Spain types, who are a few weeks ahead.
I've seen this being a common misunderstanding. H1N1 started in 1918 (though there are theories that it might have been even earlier) and that virus is one of the most common influenza viruses that make people sick. However, there are dozens of influenza A viruses (the flu shots protect you only against H3N1 and H1N1), many strains of type B virus (which also makes people very sick and the flu shot gives protection against 1 or 2 influenza B strains) and influenza C viruses (milder, but present only in humans), and also type D which at the moment does not infect people.
I think that it is believed that type B and C have been with us for thousands of years.
Good summary. I hate the Tory government and how they've handled it but they can't give a date, it'd only cause hassle. But at the same time, Labour are right in what they say - other countries are setting dates and time-lines for certain things, which is giving people something to be hopeful for an work towards mentally. They simply cannot keep saying 'another 3 weeks' indefinitely and repeating the same glib PR they're doing every day now. Show us there's a plan and the people are far more likely to comply.
To your later post about people revolting if it continues too long, you're right. But it won't even need to be a revolt, its just a matter of numbers. I just went hiking for 1.5hrs after WFH. I live in a reasonably small rural-ish town in South Wales, about 40miles from Cardiff. The town is made up of 4-5 different villages more or less. I do a hike every day. I have NEVER seen one police officer since lockdown started, and that's having gone hiking for 21-22 days on the trot. Not a single one.
By my calculations, if they tried forcibly imposing a lockdown, the military and police would be obviously involved. This small, humble town and it's surrounding areas would - by my estimate - need approximately 15-20 cops in total, 24hrs, patrolling and driving around. Where are those cops coming from? Nowhere. The police force will be focused on major cities along with the military, so there would be no way to impose it in these smaller towns. People would just start going about their regular business and the police might be able to nab like 5% of them.
Exactly, and swear it's only the media asking if the lockdown was going to be lifted after the first three weeks like it was even a question that needed asking, they were certainly not asking for anyone in the country with only the slightest hint of having a brain.
Personally I think these daily briefings are getting a bit silly now, yes give us the info, but it doesn't change so much on a daily basis that they need to wheel out three people everyday for 45 mins +, and then spoon feed the media the same answers to the questions they asked yesterday, and why does Laura Kuenssberg always get to go first like she's media royalty.
I suppose your reasoning there is why the government have been so "kid gloves" in their approach.
All that "advice" early on and then the politest ever instruction of the lockdown.
Other countries that are run with more of an iron fist could afford to be more brutal with their approach.
All i know is that my company depend on a lot of sectors like hotels restaurants and cinemas for their business.
So those need to be back up to speed before our co is back to capacity..and we have to be up to capacity until furlough ends.
Gonna be a long long haul!
Yep totally agree. It was a novelty when fresh but now it's pointless unless something major has changed. Like today's confirmation.
All the questions are simply
When will lockdown/the peak end?
Why are we worse than others?
Where's the PPE/testing?
The journos have their questions and still ask them even if the briefing has covered it already.
I always wonder what the point of that transport use graph is as well.
Feel like this clapping stuff is the new poppy.
Saw a clap for the queen's birthday next week. Absolute bin suggestion.
Saw a clap for the queen's birthday next week. Absolute bin suggestion.
Yeah, every country is different isn't it. Sorry to hear of your own predicament man, all the best and let's hope it's not as long a haul...
Having lived in a major Chinese city, and seen how the majority of the population (even relatively rich people) live in tower blocks due to lack of space.....its easy to lock down a city like that. All you need really is 2-3 armed police officers per tower block, at the entrance/exit, and you're literally quarantinining a good 500-1000 people in one easy swoop. Repeat that for every tower block in the city and you've quarantined millions of people with a few hundred police officers, give or take.
To do the same in the West with sprawling neighbourhoods, housing areas, is next to impossible unless you're deploying hundreds of officers to each town. They'd have to be 'on the move' non-stop in cars (main roads) and on foot (elsewhere). Not feasible.