sglowrider
Thinks the caf is 'wokeish'.
Boris is out of hospital now. You can all stop bloody fretting
Such a warrior! Would have been on the beaches of Dunkirk if he was born a different time.
Boris is out of hospital now. You can all stop bloody fretting
Fecking nightmare wearing a mask with glasses on, they keep fogging up every time I exhale.
Exactly. I expect the levels of fear and misery on the Caf to drop significantly nowSuch a warrior! Would have been on the beaches of Dunkirk if he was born a different time.
With global CV19 deaths at around 105,000 and UK deaths about top 10,000 (hospitals only) we really do need to understand why we account for almost 1/10 deaths.
And in particular why similar nations like Germany has managed to limit their deaths significantly lower.
Yes I know about Italy, Spain and France.
But we should be comparing ourselves with the best and not the worst.
I doubt it develops into anything we don't already know. The last paragraph is an insight into what they are trying to do I think:Just been watching CNN news and their reporter in china is saying authorities are actively blocking universities and research institutions from researching the origins of the virus. Very suspicious behaviour and worth seeing if the story develops further
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...AhAB&usg=AOvVaw23NQCcFQtY7l3NM7vIJw2y&cf=1
Editied to add link to uk article
Trump talks shit about China, China creates fake news about CIA, Boris says there will reckoning for China, China laughs at Boris...Around a month ago senior Chinese diplomats, officials and state media all publicly encouraged speculation that the new coronavirus could have come from outside the country. The foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian suggested without evidence that the US military might have brought the virus to Wuhan.
It's simple, we are a terrible nation for looking after our own health, ridiculous amounts of obese people for a start.
Add in the drinking culture and chain smokers, and recreational drug users and you have your answer.
The same planet where Miliband said it was shocking how many people were having to use food banks and Cameron's response was "how dare you insult the good people who run food banks". They're deflectionist wankers of the highest kind.On what planet is that attacking NHS England.
A YouGov poll is hardly a 'clear consensus'.There's three factors to consider for the economic impact: the depth of the economic pause, the length of the economic pause, and the shape of the recovery. The experts don't really have a clue about the latter, but there's some early signs in China that suggest it could be very quick recovery. Obviously the unprecedented economic policies taken by so many governments are aimed at making it that "v-shaped recovery". In which case the depths we're reaching right now aren't very indicative of the levels we'll return to post-pandemic.
Undoubtedly the impacts of lockdowns will be unevenly spread, across countries and within countries, depending on the nature of the work and the policies designed for them. Every country will need to make some terrible decisions and in the worst-hit areas, I think there's a big danger of social unrest regardless of which route they take. A lot of people won't sit quietly while lives are lost to save jobs. In the UK there's a clear consensus that saving every life matters more than protecting the economy, but obviously context matters a lot. The UK is able to do both quite well for now. For those relying on day-to-day jobs, a non-existent physical economy without economic protection from the government is life-and-death if it goes on long enough.
In any case, I think it's safe to say the plight of the full-time employee forced to work from home won't really feature on anyone's list of concerns.
I doubt it develops into anything we don't already know. The last paragraph is an insight into what they are trying to do I think:
Trump talks shit about China, China creates fake news about CIA, Boris says there will reckoning for China, China laughs at Boris...
It's all a pissing contest trying to divert attention away now.
I imagine the figures are slightly different now, but according to the EU's statistical office Germany has more smokers, more drinkers (and binge drinkers) and fewer obese people. Taken altogether, Germany are more or less on par with the UK, and the UK aren't particularly exceptional in any sense.
Such a warrior! Would have been on the beaches of Dunkirk if he was born a different time.
London has only 13% of the UK's population but 28% of its coronavirus deaths.
As much as anything else, the UK is a victim of the success of its capital on the global stage. The same goes for New York.
A YouGov poll is hardly a 'clear consensus'.
London has only 13% of the UK's population but 28% of its coronavirus deaths.
As much as anything else, the UK is a victim of the success of its capital on the global stage. The same goes for New York.
With global CV19 deaths at around 105,000 and UK deaths about top 10,000 (hospitals only) we really do need to understand why we account for almost 1/10 deaths.
And in particular why similar nations like Germany has managed to limit their deaths significantly lower.
Yes I know about Italy, Spain and France.
But we should be comparing ourselves with the best and not the worst.
Agreed.Or it's a major city with a massive public transport infrastructure that aided virus transmission.
A vaccine in autumn could well be catastrophic. You're right that human trials need significantly longer to assess side effects.
My fear is that, in order to save face, governments (in particular, America) will just throw cash at a fast-tracked vaccine to be first to announce it 'Look at me, we did it, we're the best!'. It'll be pushed through on a wave of money and the calls of concern from the scientists working on it will be drowned out.
I can also guarantee that if this is the route the US goes down, Trump will have some conflict of interest in it which has not been broadcast.
From the Germans themselves there are likely two reasons.
1. They were able to quickly test anybody with symptoms because they allowed tests at regional level rather than going to a central laboratory like everybody else in Europe. The fatality rate in Germany is likely not much better than anywhere else, they have just identified a higher proportion of their overall positive cases.
2. The virus was mostly brought into the country by younger people, and they have less contact with the elderly unlike in Spain and Italy. There have been very few outbreaks in German nursing homes and a higher proportion of their cases are in younger people.
My cousin is a doctor in London, last week he was moved off of his previous research onto a COVID-19 ward. Very first day on the ward he wasnt given PPE, and today has tested positive for it after developing mild symptoms. Shambles.
Exactly. Another crowded, international city with cramped public transport.It's as bad in France if not worse, 37% come from Iles-De-France.
I always get hopeful when I hear that the numbers have dipped on Sunday.UK : 737 new deaths (total 10, 612)
Total cases 84, 279 (increase of 5, 288)
They include a 26-year-old man and a 100-year-old man. Of the people who've died, 42 of them had no pre-existing conditions.
(from La Repubblica)
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...that-the-us-army-brought-coronavirus-to-wuhan
Known as the USA virus in China
Hard to say how accurate the article, is, I'd hope most understand but won't say.
Similarly, the Chinese ive spoken to are dumbfounded as to how wuhan can be blamed.I have friends in China in a few places. No one believes that it ever came out of anywhere other than Wuhan.
The Chinese are not stupid. This is the usual Asian bashing articles that newspapers write quoting someone. The Chinese social media is very active and is very varied. I am not saying that there is no one who has a different view but nothing I have seen or heard says the US brought it to China. Yes early on there was an official who said it could have come from anywhere but all official news I have seen has it coming from Wuhan.
It doesn’t have a single city, but it has Nordrhein-Westfalen.Germany doesn't have a city like London or Paris.
I agree with a lot of this Dante. God help the turks if it starts to spread in IstanbulExactly. Another crowded, international city with cramped public transport.
Just like London and New York, people travel in and out of the city frequently. Which makes contact tracing much more difficult than you'd find in smaller countries without major business hubs.
Germany's population/economy doesn't revolve around a single major city in the same way. Their epidemic developed along a different path, meaning they could control it in a different way.
No, because then I’ll have people in my extended family saying shit like “I’m not 51 I’m doing fifty again” and thinking they’re hilarious.
No, he's not supposed to do that. It would annoy me too.A work colleague is going to his girlfriends place every so often whilst living at home. I'm not sure if I should be angry but it annoyed me. That isn't meant to happen right? or am I mistaken.
A work colleague is going to his girlfriends place every so often whilst living at home. I'm not sure if I should be angry but it annoyed me. That isn't meant to happen right? or am I mistaken.
You are right, he is a spreader/tosser.A work colleague is going to his girlfriends place every so often whilst living at home. I'm not sure if I should be angry but it annoyed me. That isn't meant to happen right? or am I mistaken.