Nasal congestion of any kind is only present in 4.8% of known cases. Sneezing is an uncommon symptom.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Nasal congestion of any kind is only present in 4.8% of known cases. Sneezing is an uncommon symptom.
My blood is boiling.
This
Will be very much dependent on this
0.66 is an average i believe so if we can keep it away from the older population as much as possible (it will be very hard) we can save many lives.
Will be very much dependent on this
0.66 is an average i believe so if we can keep it away from the older population as much as possible (it will be very hard) we can save many lives.
I have heard that Boris has quite a nasty dose of it. Anyone else hear this?
He probably has to extend his isolation as he still has symptoms. He looks like shit in the videos he posts.
Sickening.
I just had someone swab the back of my mouth. I think studies have shown that the difference in efficiency between the two is not significant so I don’t know why they do it through the nose over there.
Keep us posted because a bunch of us will be thinking of you. Daily updates please.
Best of luck.
High end, if you go by Fauci's estimate
https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...-000-americans-could-die-from-the-coronavirus
This is my local surgery actually. They've been ripped apart in the Welsh media.
Off topic somewhat, can someone explain something to me because I can't understand this one:
Iran.
As far as I'm aware, Iran were the second country to be badly hit.
How? Iran is quite an insular country. It far from borders China. The Iranians are not known as big travellers or overseas tourists. And as far as I'm aware there isn't a massive Chinese community there, or much of an ex-pat situation in general?
How did it arrive in such a brutal fashion in Iran, a country that seems very unconnected to the rest of the world?
It's not the tinfoil in your veins that's objectionable it's the pile of shite in your head. The Japanese are renowned for respecting the aged, your opinion must be very offensive to them.
It's the same where I live in the UK, people keeping 2 metres away or more. On a narrow footpath one will walk in the middle of the road to avoid getting close, really helps with the roads being quiet. Small amount of people allowed in the shop at one time, spaced out orderly queues and there's been fully stocked shelves for weeks now.
The top of the medium likely range isn't the high end estimate I'm afraid.
One of the articles i read recently (sorry no idea where) looked at 20 odd models by epidemiologists in the US and the median was 270k with a top range of 770k. 200k sadly isn't unlikely.
Since the video is cut. This is about the current BCG vaccinations trial that will be done in Europe and Australia to see if they have an effect on Covid19 with several BCGs and placebos. The translation is also slightly wrong, he didn't say BCG placebos but a BCG and a placebo.
The Mira lad sounds like a twat though.
It was pretty obvious at the time what a stupid idea that was. And now we have studies that show that all the major outbreaks are directly linked to mass events. Good game though.
Japanese people may respect their elders, but I wouldn't put beyond any government to have their own Dominic Cummings.
There's something about power that attracts true douchebags.
Did you read the article you posted or just posted it because the title fits in with the narrative you’ve been peddling? Or maybe you hoped others wouldn’t read it?
So it’d very much not “the high end”.
Yep, now nothing makes sense for me. There is simply no way that it didn't affect Turkey in December already, or January the latest considering how easy it spreads in Europe even during lockdowns, and considering the number of tourists in Istanbul, and especially having the direct flight to Wuhan.
Also, there is really no way that the Turkey wouldn't notice these cases earlier. Nothing makes sense anymore.
I was in Istanbul airport in early Jan and mid-Feb and they were measuring passengers' temperatures at that point. It says here they were doing it for East Asian countries but I was scanned both ways and it didn't seem like they were discriminating. That's worlds apart from full-on coronavirus testing but they were much more alert to the problem than the London airports, who were doing absolutely nothing all the way up to mid-March at least. They were very aware of the fact that not only do they have a lot of passengers, but they're a connecting airport between Asia and Europe so it wouldn't just be people staying in Istanbul but it'd be faciliating the spread at all of the final destinations too.
From Estonia here. Was submitted to my local ER as I couldn't breathe anymore. Spent 8 hours at the "black section" of it with Covid patients. They took a test for it from my nostrils, also my blood tests and whatnor. The test came back negative, did get diagnosed with heavy bronchitis and asthma (latter which I didn't know I had). It was the most surreal hospitl experience I've had. The scariest as well. People in full camo guarding the doors, military level order within the hospital, the elderly patients given special care, full grown men crying. feck me, stay safe everyone.
Iran also have shrines which attract millions of people and kept them open when the disease was spreading. It really isn't that difficult to comprehend, not every single Iranian is sat at home and do leave the country too. All it takes is a small number of people to bring it back to the country and it spreads like wildfire.
When the president of America was saying this, you can certainly forgive some redcafe chump doing the same.
I read on fb today someone still quoting the flu deaths per year and saying this is hyped up! Some people never get it.
India? they wont have the medical facilities to test and count their dead will they? Or many of those poorer countries
There's a conspiracy thread for this stuff.
Hancock saying this morning that they've yet to find an antibody test that works. I hope those millions ordered were dependent on quality assurance, the announcement was a bit premature in hindsight.
It's not unconnected to China who took over most of their international trade after the sanctions from the western world cut them off from the usual channels. Not that long ago that majority of new cases in Wuhan were actually being imported from Iran. They are obviously under reporting both deaths and incidents.
I'd lay off the booze if I were you
No doubt
I don't subscribe to any conspiracies about this.
Well you supported 4 bars with his batshit 'the Japanese want to kill off the over 65s' so you clearly do. Take it somewhere else.
Iran and Italy have a lot of business ties with China
https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/1...ty-price-for-close-ties-with-communist-china/
Narrative I've been peddling? What are you talking about?
And to answer the question, I saw the live interview with Fauci in which he iterates that these are models, they are as good as the assumption you put in, and whenever the models come in there's a worse case and a best case - and reality tends to lie in between. 1million to 2 million is not impossible, but very unlikely. He puts his estimate at 100-200k deaths in the US. So taking that as his prediction (with caveats), 200k is on the high end.
Capisce?
The BBC just reported that the Lombardy crematorium has closed because it has a 20 day backlog. That's pretty grim. I wonder if they might just freeze bodies so that they can have time to figure out a way of letting families have a funeral in time.
All models are based on assumptions, and taking the most extreme assumptions will lead to unrealistic results. I've seen some amazing models and gorgeous graphs with bad data/assumptions, so I'm skeptical of the worse case scenarios out there.
We started with the assumption that 40-70% of the global population will be infected. That seems unlikely now. I've seen models use an exaggerated CFR in the 3.5% range (even though the most complete data from Diamond Princess passengers, with CFR=1% was observed in an elderly cohort; thus, CFR may be much lower than 1% in the general population) and I've seen R naughts run anywhere from 2 to 6.5 range. Then you have to model human behavior/response to the crisis and that's notoriously hard to do.
We'll see - from my people interactions (or lack thereof) in New York I'm amazed how well people are maintaining social distancing and staying cool, calm and collected. We'll get through this.
They have in certain areas, but not the whole region. They are moving the bodies in the night to facilities with spare room.
Google are providing location data to track changes in movement between different countries. They have split it up into categories like how many people are going to retail places, transit stations, workplaces etc.
https://www.google.com/covid19/mobility/
The UK for comparison is still moving between 10% and 40% more than Italy, especially in parks.
https://www.google.com/covid19/mobility/
The UK for comparison is still moving between 10% and 40% more than Italy, especially in parks.
To complete that info. The amount of known Covid-19 death in care homes is 884 out of 14638 people infected.
Some posters really should look inside themselves
Do they truthfully not realise how hateful and full of bile their comments appear. At a time when parts of the world are fighting for its very existence. Shame on them not of course that they will feel any I’m sure.
Do they truthfully not realise how hateful and full of bile their comments appear. At a time when parts of the world are fighting for its very existence. Shame on them not of course that they will feel any I’m sure.