Medtronic are making the designs for one of their ventilators public
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Thai King flees country with 20 women,Isolates at a luxury hotel in Germany with them.
According to Bild.
According to Bild.
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I think you’ve forgotten something here.
Things have certainly changed since "The King and I".
I hadn't noticed that before, the spacing is bizarre, 500, similar to the 1000 above, then the top 5000 basically the same again.
It makes the graph next to useless, as it elongates and stretches the lines at varying points.
I assume this is done to fit it into a space usable on the Internet, but it looks like it's agenda driven to make some countries look worse etc...
Edit: I'm sure it does have its uses, but for general comparison of progression it makes it pretty difficult
Shaq seems to be enjoying his confinement
It's a logarithmic scale. If something's growing linearly on a log scale it's growing exponentially on a linear scale. It's very useful. That's also why you can plot in the dashed lines for different doubling times.
It's a standard method in science, statistics and maths, nothing to do with the internet or agendas.
The graph's curves are used to see patterns like does one person infect one person on average or three, and what is the timeline - are cases doubling every two days or every five, and so on. It might not make a lot of instant sense to everyone outside the science audience (who use it when talking about models and trends) but it's not a trick.
Allah. Coming from someone located in Austria as well that's scary.
Your racist comments aside, my original statement comes from my opinion of the average person; which has always been low and is plummeting as I age. The efficiency of democracy is predicated on people knowing what's good for them, which I do not believe to be the case.
Yeah, except that's not true. Except UK doctors know more about the virus than entire world.
I still think these daily graphs misrepresent the picture somewhat. Especially with regards to the US.
Much better to start each country from the point exponential growth really kicks in, some countries had a few isolated cases for weeks whilst others comparatively had rapid community spread from migration.
Of course, you're both correct. I was meaning more the use of it on general circles.
It does of course have its place in proper circles, but the average layman wouldn't really understand how to process the information.
Even fairly well educated folk will take a quick glance and could easily misinterpret the lines.
But you're both right, the graph is a perfectly acceptable form of data, and most definitely has its place
That's the exact reason that made it the ultimate standard.
The story of our ventilators is not going to go away.
This will have cost lives, and they are lying about it.
This will have cost lives, and they are lying about it.
#ToriesLiedPeopleDied
Not for the first time
Buses gone to Sunday service for me 1 every hour. Had to be done but makes it getting to the work (hospital) harder. It would have been better to have buses every half hour between 6am-9am and 3pm - 6pm. The buses where full of keyworkers and no chance of social distancing.
9222 new cases and 849 new deaths in Spain in the last 24 hours. Total reaches 94,417 confirmed cases and 8,189 confirmed deaths.
So much for 'flattening the curves'.
So much for 'flattening the curves'.
it's painfully obvious they deliberately didn't want to get involved for Brexit related reasons. which is appalling on so many levels.
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The graph is for people that understand it. If you don’t, study the topic for an hour. I’m sure you have the time. It’s not difficult.
Educate yourself. Don’t assume everything should adapt to your level of understanding.
That's pretty much the 5 day average for Spain, so that does sound like they're starting to flattent the curve
What's even more appalling is that they'll get away with it. And people will die who might otherwise have been saved.
And people will vote them in again.
Sorry, saw this post after I’d replied.
I’ll repeat my previous point though. Don’t expect to understand everything. Yes new things confuse intelligent people. But intelligent people take time to learn, rather than criticise something they can’t immediately grasp.
Your options are;
- Learn to understand something new
- Not comment
To state that data should only be used in ‘proper circles’ is daft. It’s the readers duty to learn. Not the presenters job to dumb down or explain.
In addition, if you used a linear scale you wouldn't be able to see any information early on as the lines would be too condensed, every country would look basically the same.
I'm also not certain what (if any) ventilators we would have received from the EU scheme (my understanding is that many intermediarys are selling equipment they don't actually have and now having trouble getting it from suppliers or simply selling it to somebody else at a higher price) - also I might be wrong but I'd have assumes most of not all additional ventilators from the scheme would currently have gone to Italy or Spain.
That said the government could have instigated its own procurement programme far quicker and to the best of my knowledge these 10,000 Dyson/JCB units have not as yet been approved for use and actual production won't start till they are
Glad he's ok!
Anyone with a few million they won't need for six months or 12 months could double or treble it - almost certain.
Buy today, sell when the world gets back to near-normal....
https://markets.businessinsider.com/commodities/oil-price
Buy today, sell when the world gets back to near-normal....
https://markets.businessinsider.com/commodities/oil-price
Not sure why the government didn't go straight to British Aerospace. Huge capacity, the technical knowledge to build anything, and being heavily dependent on government contracts I'd have thought they would have been cooperative.
Should I put my life savings on that?
I have no desire to comment on the actual thrust of the argument but that graph is likely to be highly misleading as it relates to the highest rate of income tax that can be paid in selected countries which of itself has little to do with the average tax burden of the population.Aye, that’s why I called @NYAS a bigot yesterday. I didn’t have the lust to spell it out for him then but you two have done it perfectly here.
To bundle the US in with, for example Germany & Scandinavia is one of the most narrow minded and ignorant posts I’ve seen on these boards, they are World’s apart.
Does this bigot seriously think the likes of us in Sweden pay the most tax in the World because we only care about ourselves and our own liberties, and ”to hell with other people”?
Two of the most important things here in the nordics are the Law of Jante & Freedom to Roam, but a dude living a country with a history of Human Right abuse, that in 2020 still don’t see women as equal is the country that ”cares more about other people” as the West is, and I quote:
”To hell with other people”.
What an utter crock of shite, the delusion of a person desperate to see the place he lives as ”better” in some way.
12-year old girl died in Belgium yesterday. So sad to hear that on the news.
And income tax is only one form of tax, there are many more.
Anyone got stats to reflect better reflect the total taxes people pay?
In the interests of not causing stress please can you use links or something. Getting tired of shock posts like this. We don't need them.
That was the effect and not the cause.
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