SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

[Gambit]

I could be wrong but I assume the reasoning is that the more people who have had the virus and recovered; the less chance there is in bumping into someone contagious in a months time.

however that doesn’t work IF you can catch it more than once

Which there is recorded cases of people catching it a second time.

 

[Arruda]

If you're young and you have no underlying health issues, I'm not sure what there is to "shite scared" about.

Other people's lives?

 

[sullydnl]

 

[Revan]

Which there is recorded cases of people catching it a second time.

We don't fully know if they caught it for the second time, or it was simply a false negative the first time they did the testing.

We also don't know how bad is the second time. If the body has antibodies, the virus might be less effective and so less contagious.

 

[Sarni]

Sucks for those people. Is there no government help in his country?

Very limited now. They will be subsiding some salaries, they will defer tax and social security payments but you will still have to settle them after 3 months in one go. They are trying but because they’ve made an obscene amount of social payments over the last 5 years to basically buy votes, there’s really no money left to help businesses.

We have a ton of shared service centers in Kraków for foreign businesses, they might be cutting some jobs as well but then again some may try to migrate even more processes from UK/Germany as cost is much lower. I don’t really know where it will go. The company I work for is in retail and direct selling which usually does quite well during crises but people having less money will obviously impact us as well. My wife works for Heineken and they will obviously take a hit with pubs closing. Opposite of my streets there’s Shell who will be impacted as well, and I had a job offer from IAG a while ago - I imagine they’ll be cutting positions shortly if they aren’t already.

 

[Sarni]

We don't fully know if they caught it for the second time, or it was simply a false negative the first time they did the testing.

We also don't know how bad is the second time. If the body has antibodies, the virus might be less effective and so less contagious.

To be fair we’ve had 700k cases and a maybe 4 stories of people testing positive again after getting negative after illness. Tests are imperfect at this point so it’s more than likely it’s a false negative. Chances are you become fully or partly immune once you’ve had it.

 

[Penna]

A sad story from Germany - just shows how much these pressures can affect people who aren't actually working in healthcare, but nonetheless have big responsibilities.

Thomas Schäfer, the finance minister of Germany's Hesse state, has committed suicide apparently after becoming "deeply worried" over how to cope with the economic fallout from the coronavirus, state premier Volker Bouffier said Sunday.

Schaefer, 54, was found dead near a railway track on Saturday.

The Wiesbaden prosecution's office said they believe he died by suicide.

"We are in shock, we are in disbelief and above all we are immensely sad," Bouffier said in a recorded statement.

Hesse is home to Germany's financial capital Frankfurt, where major lenders like Deutsche Bank and Commerzbank have their headquarters.

The European Central Bank is also located in Frankfurt.

A visibly shaken Bouffier recalled that Schaefer, who was Hesse's finance chief for 10 years, had been working "day and night" to help companies and workers deal with the economic impact of the pandemic.

"Today we have to assume that he was deeply worried," said Bouffier, a close ally of Chancellor Angela Merkel.

"It's precisely during this difficult time that we would have needed someone like him," he added.

Popular and well-respected, Schaefer had long been touted as a possible successor to Bouffier. Like Bouffier, Schaefer belonged to Merkel's centre-right CDU party. He leaves behind a wife and two children.

https://www.thelocal.de/20200329/german-minister-commits-suicide-due-to-coronavirus-worries

 

[fergieisold]

State of the Daily Mail. No underlying health issues. Well apart from being morbidly obese. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...erlying-health-problems-dies-coronavirus.html

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Young people dying are still statistical outliers. If you're young and you have no underlying health issues, I'm not sure what there is to "shite scared" about. Do you live your life in fear of all improbable events? Respect the situation, take all necessary and proportional precautions, but don't become irrational. We are going to require young, healthy people to lead the volunteering effort.

Being shite scared isn’t irrational though. This is a disease that can and does kill young, healthy people. Never mind the much higher % of young, healthy people who will only pull through after being ventilated, with severely scarred/fibrotic lungs that might never regain normal function. Lung damage aside, people with very mild symptom are frequently losing their sense of smell and taste and the jury’s out about whether it will ever return to normal.

Everybody should be shite scared of catching this damn thing. Which is no bad thing, as fear is a powerful motivator. I’d much rather young people live their lives in fear of the virus than mistakenly thinking their own health isn’t really at risk.

 

[fergieisold]

Being shite scared isn’t irrational though. This is a disease that can and does kill young, healthy people. Never mind the much higher % of young, healthy people who will only pull through after being ventilated, with severely scarred/fibrotic lungs that might never regain normal function. Everybody should be shite scared of catching this damn thing. Which is no bad thing, as fear is a powerful motivator. I’d much rather young people live their lives in fear of the virus than mistakenly thinking their own health isn’t really at risk.

Young peoples health is not, given the evidence, at significant risk. There is no need to panic, simple rational thought is what is required here.

 

[Penna]

State of the Daily Mail. No underlying health issues. Well apart from being morbidly obese. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...erlying-health-problems-dies-coronavirus.html

Yes, the family picture shows a lot of people who are extremely overweight. If you're seriously ill with anything, being obese will always raise your risk.

 

[P-Nut]

One of my best friends grandparents died yesterday.

It's a strange one though as they had no symptoms before going into hospital with other problems, yet when they tested it was found they had covid-19.

They only went in yesterday and died yesterday.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Young peoples health is not, given the evidence, at significant risk. There is no need to panic, simple rational thought is what is required here.

Young people’s health IS at risk. That’s a fact. Whether this causes panic or not is up to the individual.

Baffles me how many young people can’t understand that simple death rates don’t tell the whole picture. The hospitalisation/ventilation rates are much higher and, believe me, ending up in hospital or ventilated because of COVID-19 is something you REALLY do not want to go through.

 

[cyberman]

Young people’s health IS at risk. That’s a fact. Whether this causes panic or not is up to the individual.

Baffles me how many young people can’t understand that simple death rates don’t tell the whole picture. The hospitalisation/ventilation rates are much higher and, believe me, ending up in hospital or ventilated is something you REALLY do not want to go through.

Theres 3 or 4 young people on the verge of dying in Derry hospital.

 

[Amar__]

Other people's lives?

Yeah, it's such a simple thing to understand, I can't understand how people still don't get it. Baffling.

 

[Jippy]

Couldn't have guessed it would be some form of the Mail

The Sun was also running it.

 

[Full bodied red]

We've been able to reopen our Port Harcourt office and warehouse this evening after closing it on Thursday when one of our Loaders started with with a crazily high fever.

The Croatian Doctor who works for one of our biggest customers there, assures us that our colleague's symptoms which caused us to close it as a precaution are '' only malaria ''

Anyone who's ever had a bout of malaria might disagree with the word '' only '' but without proper testing facilities it's only a conclusion rather then actual proof, although at least malaria is treatable, Thank Goodness.

 

[Volumiza]

People won't put up with lockdowns for long. If the weather continues like this and with the longer evenings there will be a collective "Feck this" sooner rather than later.

Then people are stupid

Yeah, it's such a simple thing to understand, I can't understand how people still don't get it. Baffling.

+1

 

[Sandikan]

Yeah, it's such a simple thing to understand, I can't understand how people still don't get it. Baffling.

Some people are simply very hard of thinking.
But if this thread can help people with that, that's an added benefit.

 

[Full bodied red]

State of the Daily Mail. No underlying health issues. Well apart from being morbidly obese. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...erlying-health-problems-dies-coronavirus.html

Yeah.....I noticed that, too, but wasn't sure we're allowed to say that on here.....

 

[vodrake]

Young peoples health is not, given the evidence, at significant risk. There is no need to panic, simple rational thought is what is required here.

Young people are still ending up ventillated in ICU, a lot seriously Ill and with a potential risk of permanent lifelong damage. Its nonsense to say their health isn't at risk.

An even more pressing issue is that every hospital bed and ventilator taken up by a young person who thought they were invulnerable and didnt take this seriously with necessary precautions is one that someone who wont survive without it can't have.

Young people shouldnt panic, but they should be scared and show this virus a level of respect, if not for themselves at least then for everyone else their actions can affect

 

[Paxi]

Same. My mother has serious health issues, so is classed 'extremely vulnerable', but doesn't buy anything online and near her the supermarket queues are massive.
I'm sending her gloves and masks, but she won't wear the masks cos 'no-one in Hull is wearing them' and she'll look daft ffs.

My mum is 51 and in good health so she just went to her friends house for an hour because apparently they're both aren't showing symptoms so they're must be okay. I had a massive row over this with her. Next time she'll be getting reported to the cops. It's frustrating and disappointing as it's coming from my own mother. She's shown complete disregard for everything and everyone.

 

[sullydnl]

Young peoples health is not, given the evidence, at significant risk. There is no need to panic, simple rational thought is what is required here.

There is never any need to panic, it's always unhelpful.

In terms of young people not being at significant risk though, that's true only if by "significant risk" you mean death. Which isn't the standard most people operate by.

I'm 30 and I've never been sick enough to end up in hospital. If I ever got that sick, it would be a very bad, unusual and significant thing. As for being sick enough to end up in ICU, in normal circumstances that could easily never happen until I get whatever actually kills me. Ending up in ICU before that point (but especially at my current age) would normally be considered a nightmarish disaster, which could end up having horrible long term health consequences.

So when you look at the amount of young people who have and will end up in hospital & ICU as a result of COVID-19, it would be bizarre to say the health risk to young people isn't "significant".

 

[Paxi]

Yeah.....I noticed that, too, but wasn't sure we're allowed to say that on here.....

Well, you've just said it.

And why wouldn't you be allowed to say that she's morbidly obese on here?

Don't be daft.

 

[fergieisold]

Young people’s health IS at risk. That’s a fact. Whether this causes panic or not is up to the individual.

Baffles me how many young people can’t understand that simple death rates don’t tell the whole picture. The hospitalisation/ventilation rates are much higher and, believe me, ending up in hospital or ventilated because of COVID-19 is something you REALLY do not want to go through.

I'm 32. My age group have off top of my head 3.2 % chance of hospitalisation and 5% of them a risk of being tubed and I guess then it is 50% mortality.
. The 3.2 % is likely a lot lower due to unidentified cases. The risk is low, stop the hysterical doom mongering. Nobody wants to catch this virus, but the overwhelming majority that do will be absolutely fine. They'll actually barely notice it.

 

[Penna]

Yeah.....I noticed that, too, but wasn't sure we're allowed to say that on here.....

It's no criticism of the folk themselves, but it's something people have to acknowledge. Just like those with pre-existing health problems have a higher risk, if you're obese there is already extra pressure on your heart and lungs. If you catch the virus, you have a disadvantage.

 

[stevoc]

People won't put up with lockdowns for long. If the weather continues like this and with the longer evenings there will be a collective "Feck this" sooner rather than later.

Then that is when the Police will have to break out the batons and water cannons.

 

[SteveJ]

Then that is when the Police will have to break out the batons and water cannons.

Boris sold the water cannons and cut police numbers, so it'll just be him & Raab with the batons.

 

[izec]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...erman-finance-official-linked-to-virus-crisis

This is a bit strange. Did he know something about the virus most dont?

Don't think it has necessarily something to do with the virus and the disease. The financial impact and economic consequences on the other hand will be huge.

 

[redshaw]

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Mar 13th​	11​	Feb 28th​	21​	Mar 10th​	36​	Mar 7th​	16​	Mar 16th​	12​	Mar 6th​	14​
Mar 14th​	21​	Feb 29th​	29​	Mar 11th​	55​	Mar 8th​	19​	Mar 17th​	12​	Mar 7th​	19​
Mar 15th​	35​	Mar 1st​	41​	Mar 12th​	86​	Mar 9th​	30​	Mar 18th​	12​	Mar 8th​	21​
Mar 16th​	55​	Mar 2nd​	52​	Mar 13th​	133​	Mar 10th​	33​	Mar 19th​	20​	Mar 9th​	26​
Mar 17th​	71​	Mar 3rd​	79​	Mar 14th​	196​	Mar 11th​	48​	Mar 20th​	31​	Mar 10th​	31​
Mar 18th​	104​	Mar 4th​	107​	Mar 15th​	294​	Mar 12th​	61​	Mar 21st​	47​	Mar 11th​	37​
Mar 19th​	144​	Mar 5th​	148​	Mar 16th​	342​	Mar 13th​	79​	Mar-22nd​	55​	Mar 12th​	41​
Mar 20th​	177​	Mar 6th​	197​	Mar 17th​	533​	Mar 14th​	91​	Mar 23rd​	86​	Mar 13th​	49​
Mar 21st​	233​	Mar 7th​	233​	Mar 18th​	638​	Mar 15th​	127​	Mar 24th​	114​	Mar 14th​	55​
Mar 22nd​	281​	Mar 8th​	366​	Mar 19th​	833​	Mar 16th​	148​	Mar 25th​	149​	Mar 15th​	62​
Mar 23rd​	335​	Mar 9th​	463​	Mar 20th​	1,093​	Mar 17th​	175​	Mar 26th​	198​	Mar 16th​	76​
Mar 24th​	422​	Mar 10th​	631​	Mar 21st​	1,381​	Mar 18th​	244​	Mar 27th​	253​	Mar 17th​	97​
Mar 25th​	468​	Mar 11th​	827​	Mar 22nd​	1,813​	Mar 19th​	372​	Mar 28th​	325​	Mar 18th​	123​
Mar 26th​	578​	Mar 12th​	1,016​	Mar 23rd​	2,207​	Mar 20th​	450​	Mar 29th​	389​	Mar19th​	175​
Mar 27th​	759​	Mar 13th​	1,266​	Mar 24th​	2,696​	Mar 21st​	562​	Mar 30th​	​	Mar 20th​	230​
Mar 28th​	1,019​	Mar 14th​	1,441​	Mar 25th​	3,434​	Mar 22nd​	674​	​	​	Mar 21st​	298​
Mar 29th​	1,228​	Mar 15th​	1,809​	Mar 26th​	4,145​	Mar 23rd​	860​	​	​	Mar 22nd​	408​
​	​	Mar 16th​	2,158​	Mar 27th​	4,858​	Mar 24th​	1100​	​	​	Mar 23rd​	519​
​	​	Mar 17th​	2,503​	Mar 28th​	5,690​	Mar 25th​	1331​	​	​	Mar 24th​	681​
​	​	Mar 18th​	2,978​	Mar 29th​	6,528​	Mar 26th​	1,696​	​	​	Mar 25th​	906​
​	​	Mar 19th​	3,405​	​	​	Mar 27th​	1,995​	​	​	Mar 26th​	1,159​
​	​	Mar 20th​	4,032​	​	​	Mar 28th​	2,314​	​	​	Mar 27th​	1,591​
​	​	Mar 21st​	​	​	​	Mar 29th​	2,606​	​	​	Mar 28th​	2,038​

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[Drifter]

Every region of the UK as been put on Emergency footing. Not seen since the second world war.

 

[stevoc]

Boris sold the water cannons and cut police numbers, so it'll just be him & Raab with the batons.

The quarantine breakers of Kensington & Westminster won't know what hit them.

 

[Withnail]

I could be wrong but I assume the reasoning is that the more people who have had the virus and recovered; the less chance there is in bumping into someone contagious in a months time.

however that doesn’t work IF you can catch it more than once

Yeah ok I get that but I think the unknown results of lifting the lockdown at the moment outweigh the current benefits, which as others have said allows time to prepare the health services and tries to keep the numbers needed hospitalisation manageable.

Even with lockdown Ireland are near if not at capacity for ICU beds.

It would be nice if we were only able to ensure the young and healthy were infected but how do you manage that?

 

[Full bodied red]

Well, you've just said it.

And why wouldn't you be allowed to say that she's morbidly obese on here?

Don't be daft.

Because a couple of years ago I made a comment about one particularly obese woman who'd been on TV and got a five point yellow card.

 

[redshaw]

Grinner asked me to post the table in here. I will keep it updated for a while, we'll see how it goes.

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United Kingdom Dates​	UK Deaths​	Italy Dates​	Italy Deaths​	Spain Dates​	Spain Deaths​	France Dates​	France Deaths​	Germany Dates​	Germany Deaths​	USA Dates​	USA Deaths​
Mar 8th​	3​	Feb-23rd​	3​	Mar 5th​	3​	Mar 2nd​	3​	Mar 11th​	3​	Mar 1st​	2​
Mar 9th​	5​	Feb 24th​	7​	Mar 6th​	8​	Mar 3rd​	4​	Mar 12th​	5​	Mar 2nd​	6​
Mar 10th​	6​	Feb 25th​	11​	Mar 7th​	10​	Mar 4th​	4​	Mar 13th​	8​	Mar 3rd​	9​
Mar 11th​	8​	Feb 26th​	12​	Mar 8th​	17​	Mar 5th​	7​	Mar 14th​	8​	Mar 4th​	11​
Mar 12th​	10​	Feb 27th​	17​	Mar 9th​	30​	Mar 6th​	9​	Mar 15th​	12​	Mar 5th​	11​
Mar 13th​	11​	Feb 28th​	21​	Mar 10th​	36​	Mar 7th​	16​	Mar 16th​	12​	Mar 6th​	14​
Mar 14th​	21​	Feb 29th​	29​	Mar 11th​	55​	Mar 8th​	19​	Mar 17th​	12​	Mar 7th​	19​
Mar 15th​	35​	Mar 1st​	41​	Mar 12th​	86​	Mar 9th​	30​	Mar 18th​	12​	Mar 8th​	21​
Mar 16th​	55​	Mar 2nd​	52​	Mar 13th​	133​	Mar 10th​	33​	Mar 19th​	20​	Mar 9th​	26​
Mar 17th​	71​	Mar 3rd​	79​	Mar 14th​	196​	Mar 11th​	48​	Mar 20th​	31​	Mar 10th​	31​
Mar 18th​	104​	Mar 4th​	107​	Mar 15th​	294​	Mar 12th​	61​	Mar 21st​	47​	Mar 11th​	37​
Mar 19th​	144​	Mar 5th​	148​	Mar 16th​	342​	Mar 13th​	79​	Mar-22nd​	55​	Mar 12th​	41​
Mar 20th​	177​	Mar 6th​	197​	Mar 17th​	533​	Mar 14th​	91​	Mar 23rd​	86​	Mar 13th​	49​
Mar 21st​	233​	Mar 7th​	233​	Mar 18th​	638​	Mar 15th​	127​	Mar 24th​	114​	Mar 14th​	55​
Mar 22nd​	281​	Mar 8th​	366​	Mar 19th​	833​	Mar 16th​	148​	Mar 25th​	149​	Mar 15th​	62​
Mar 23rd​	335​	Mar 9th​	463​	Mar 20th​	1,093​	Mar 17th​	175​	Mar 26th​	198​	Mar 16th​	76​
Mar 24th​	422​	Mar 10th​	631​	Mar 21st​	1,381​	Mar 18th​	244​	Mar 27th​	253​	Mar 17th​	97​
Mar 25th​	468​	Mar 11th​	827​	Mar 22nd​	1,813​	Mar 19th​	372​	Mar 28th​	325​	Mar 18th​	123​
Mar 26th​	578​	Mar 12th​	1,016​	Mar 23rd​	2,207​	Mar 20th​	450​	Mar 29th​	389​	Mar19th​	175​
Mar 27th​	759​	Mar 13th​	1,266​	Mar 24th​	2,696​	Mar 21st​	562​	Mar 30th​	455​	Mar 20th​	230​
Mar 28th​	1,019​	Mar 14th​	1,441​	Mar 25th​	3,434​	Mar 22nd​	674​	Mar 31st​	600​	Mar 21st​	298​
Mar 29th​	1,228​	Mar 15th​	1,809​	Mar 26th​	4,145​	Mar 23rd​	860​	Apr 1st​	732​	Mar 22nd​	408​
Mar 30th​	1,408​	Mar 16th​	2,158​	Mar 27th​	4,858​	Mar 24th​	1100​	Apr 2nd​	872​	Mar 23rd​	519​
Mar 31st​	1,789​	Mar 17th​	2,503​	Mar 28th​	5,690​	Mar 25th​	1331​	Apr 3rd​	1,017​	Mar 24th​	681​
Apr 1st​	2,352​	Mar 18th​	2,978​	Mar 29th​	6,528​	Mar 26th​	1,696​	Apr 4th​	1,158​	Mar 25th​	906​
Apr 2nd​	2,921​	Mar 19th​	3,405​	Mar 30th​	7,340​	Mar 27th​	1,995​	Apr 5th​	1,342​	Mar 26th​	1,159​
Apr 3rd​	3,605​	Mar 20th​	4,032​	Mar 31st​	8,189​	Mar 28th​	2,314​	Apr 6th​	1,434​	Mar 27th​	1,592​
Apr 4th​	4,313​	Mar 21st​	4,825​	Apr 1st​	9,053​	Mar 29th​	2,606​	Apr 7th​	1,607​	Mar 28th​	2,039​
Apr 5th​	4,934​	Mar 22nd​	5,475​	Apr 2nd​	10,003​	Mar 30th​	3,024​	Apr 8th​	1,861​	Mar 29th​	2,431​
Apr 6th​	5,373​	Mar 23rd​	6,077​	Apr 3rd​	10,935​	Mar 31st​	3,523​	Apr 9th​	2,107​	Mar 30th​	2,985​
Apr 7th​	6,159​	Mar 24th​	6,820​	Apr 4th​	11,744​	Apr 1st​	4,032​	Apr 10th​	2,373​	Mar 31st​	3,806​
Apr 8th​	7,097​	Mar 25th​	7,503​	Apr 5th​	12,418​	Apr 2nd​	4,503​	Apr 11th​	2,544​	Apr 1st​	4,746​
Apr 9th​	7,978​	Mar 26th​	8,215​	Apr 6th​	13,055​	Apr 3rd​	5,091​	Apr 12th​	2,673​	Apr 2nd​	5,821​
Apr 10th​	8,958​	Mar 27th​	9,134​	Apr 7th​	13,798​	Apr 4th​	5,532​	Apr 13th​	2,799​	Apr 3rd​	7,007​
Apr 11th​	9,875​	Mar 28th​	10,023​	Apr 8th​	14,555​	Apr 5th​	5,889​	Apr 14th​	2,969​	Apr 4th​	8,359​
Apr 12th​	10,612​	Mar 29th​	10,779​	Apr 9th​	15,238​	Apr 6th​	6,494​	Apr 15th​	3,254​	Apr 5th​	9,534​
Apr 13th​	11,329​	Mar 30th​	11,591​	Apr 10th​	15,843​	Apr 7th​	7,091​	Apr 16th​	3,569​	Apr 6th​	10,748​
Apr 14th​	12,107​	Mar 31st​	12,428​	Apr 11th​	16,353​	Apr 8th​	7,632​	Apr 17th​	3,868​	Apr 7th​	12,674​
Apr 15th​	12,868​	Apr 1st​	13,155​	Apr 12th​	16,972​	Apr 9th​	8,044​	Apr 18th​	4,110​	Apr 8th​	14,610​
Apr 16th​	13,729​	Apr 2nd​	13,915​	Apr 13th​	17,489​	Apr 10th​	8,598​	Apr 19th​	4,294​	Apr 9th​	16,466​
Apr 17th​	14,576​	Apr 3rd​	14,681​	Apr 14th​	18,056​	Apr 11th​	8,943​	Apr 20th​	4,404​	Apr 10th​	18,544​
Apr 18th​	15,464​	Apr 4th​	15,362​	Apr 15th​	18,579​	Apr 12th​	9,258​	Apr 21st​	4,598​	Apr 11th​	20,446​
Apr 19th​	16,060​	Apr 5th​	15,887​	Apr 16th​	19,130​	Apr 13th​	9,588​	Apr 22nd​	4,879​	Apr 12th​	21,939​
Apr 20th​	16,509​	Apr 6th​	16,523​	Apr 17th​	19,478​	Apr 14th​	10,129​	Apr 23rd​	5,094​	Apr 13th​	23,401​
Apr 21st​	17,337​	Apr 7th​	17,127​	Apr 18th​	20,043​	Apr 15th​	10,643​	Apr 24th​	5,321​	Apr 14th​	25,779​
Apr 22nd​	18,100​	Apr 8th​	17,669​	Apr 19th​	20,453​	Apr 16th​	11,060​	Apr 25th​	5,500​	Apr 15th​	28,217​
Apr 23rd​	18,738​	Apr 9th​	18,279​	Apr 20th​	20,852​	Apr 17th​	11,478​	Apr 26th​	5,640​	Apr 16th​	30,358​
Apr 24th​	19,506​	Apr 10th​	18,849​	Apr 21st​	21,282​	Apr 18th​	11,842​	Apr 27th​	5,750​	Apr 17th​	32,438​
Apr 25th​	20,319​	Apr 11th​	19,468​	Apr 22nd​	21,717​	Apr 19th​	12,069​	Apr 28th​	5,913​	Apr 18th​	34,181​
Apr 26th​	20,732​	Apr 12th​	19,899​	Apr 23rd​	22,157​	Apr 20th​	12,513​	Apr 29th​	6,115​	Apr 19th​	35,815​
Apr 27th​	21,092​	Apr 13th​	20,465​	Apr 24th​	22,524​	Apr 21st​	12,900​	Apr 30th​	6,288​	Apr 20th​	37,455​
Apr 28th​	21,678​	Apr 14th​	21,067​	Apr 25th​	22,902​	Apr 22nd​	13,236​	May 1st​	6,481​	Apr 21st​	40,079​
Apr 29th​	22,256​	Apr 15th​	21,645​	Apr 26th​	23,190​	Apr 23rd​	13,547​	May 2nd​	6,575​	Apr 22nd​	42,198​
Apr 30th​	22,761‬​	Apr 16th​	22,170​	Apr 27th​	23,521​	Apr 24th​	13,852​	May 3rd​	6,649​	Apr 23rd​	44,038​
May 1st​	23,129​	Apr 17th​	22,745​	Apr 28th​	23,822​	Apr 25th​	14,050​	May 4th​	6,692​	Apr 24th​	46,091​
May 2nd​	23,701​	Apr 18th​	23,227​	Apr 29th​	24,275​	Apr 26th​	14,202​	May 5th​	6,831​	Apr 25th​	47,916​
May 3rd​	24,097​	Apr 19th​	23,660​	Apr 30th​	24,543​	Apr 27th​	14,497​	May 6th​	6,996​	Apr 26th​	49,077​
May 4th​	24,332​	Apr 20th​	24,114​	May 1st​	24,824​	Apr 28th​	14,810​	May 7th​	7,119​	Apr 27th​	50,314​
May 5th​	24,735​	Apr 21st​	24,648​	May 2nd​	25,100​	Apr 29th​	15,053​	May 8th​	7,266​	Apr 28th​	52,518​
May 6th​	25,148​	Apr 22nd​	25,085​	May 3rd​	25,264​	Apr 30th​	15,224​	May 9th​	7,369​	Apr 29th​	55,054​
May 7th​	N/A​	Apr 23rd​	25,549​	May 4th​	25,428​	May 1st​	15,369​	​	​	Apr 30th​	57,137​
May 8th​	N/A​	Apr 24th​	25,969​	May 5th​	25,613​	May 2nd​	15,487​	​	​	May 1st​	58,931​
May 9th​	N/A​	Apr 25th​	26,384​	May 6th​	25,857​	May 3rd​	15,583​	​	​	May 2nd​	60,599​
​	​	Apr 26th​	26,644​	May 7th​	26,070​	May 4th​	15,826​	​	​	May 3rd​	61,716​
​	​	Apr 27th​	26,977​	May 8th​	26,299​	May 5th​	16,060​	​	​	May 4th​	62,593​
​	​	Apr 28th​	27,359​	May 9th​	26,478​	May 6th​	16,237​	​	​	May 5th​	65,028​
​	​	Apr 29th​	27,682​	​	​	May 7th​	16,386​	​	​	May 6th​	67,729​
​	​	Apr 30th​	27,967​	​	​	May 8th​	16,497​	​	​	May 7th​	69,700​
​	​	May 1st​	28,236​	​	​	May 9th​	16,573​	​	​	May 8th​	71,434​

Note France announced cumulative batches of deaths for care/nursing homes from the 2nd of April and these have been left out for the time being as other countries don't count them and have not been released. 9737 in total.

UK started announcing deaths for hospital, care home and community from the 29th of April. I've continued with just the hospital deaths.

No more updates past 9th of May




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[Withnail]

Every region of the UK as been put on Emergency footing. Not seen since the second world war.

Does anyone know what this means?

Does it give the govt the ability to wield extra powers they wouldn't normally have?

EDIT: Army in charge basically

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-52081389

 

[Volumiza]

Boris sold the water cannons and cut police numbers, so it'll just be him & Raab with the batons.

 

[sullydnl]

I'm 32. My age group have off top of my head 3.2 % chance of hospitalisation and 5% of them a risk of being tubed and I guess then it is 50% mortality.
. The 3.2 % is likely a lot lower due to unidentified cases. The risk is low, stop the hysterical doom mongering. Nobody wants to catch this virus, but the overwhelming majority that do will be absolutely fine. They'll actually barely notice it.

In Ireland (where I live) as per figures released on the 26th of March, there had been 358 identified cases of Coronavirus among the 25-34 age group, 48 of whom were hospitalised. My quick maths puts that percentage at around 13%, not 3%. Which is a hell of a lot more significant. Especially when speaking about something so extremely easy to catch.

Edit: Just to make sure Ireland wasn't a random outlier, I just looked up some stats from Spain that had the percentage of confirmed 30-39 year olds who ended up in hospital at around 16%.

 

[Paxi]

Because a couple of years ago I made a comment about one particularly obese woman who'd been on TV and got a five point yellow card.

Okay but you must have said it in a context where you were being offensive? Calling someone morbidly obese isn't offensive-- it's proper terminology for people who have significant weight problems.

 

[JPRouve]

You know that times are strange when you see medicalized train taking people from the north to the south of France, alongside helicopters and airplanes. That's a bit grim.