Paxi
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So a cat tested positive for Covid-19. It's bloody ridiculous that cats are getting tested before humans are. Ridiculous.
Haven’t heard anything more todayHow is that fella doing that was in coma - I think it was you that posted about it? How old is he? I hope he pulls through.
Us humans are being purrsecutedSo a cat tested positive for Covid-19. It's bloody ridiculous that cats are getting tested before humans are. Ridiculous.
Haven’t heard anything more today
Yep so it's not such a biggie. Cheers- ditto hope you're getting through this ok.Yeah but you're in London aren't you? Hope you're keeping well btw.
Watching MOTD tonight, what happened to social distancing? Lineker flapping just arms around near the others?
I thought lineker was self quarantined anyway?
Yep so it's not such a biggie. Cheers- ditto hope you're getting through this ok.
Leave the stuff (non perishable) in the shed/garage/boot. The virus can only survive up to 24 hours or so on cardboard.
Yeah in all seriousness I can't blame people for doing this sort of thing. Especially since there doesn't seem to be any easy to find government advise.That is mad but this stuff is a concern. I haven't seen much advice on handling stuff like food, packaging, washing clothes and dealing with other potentially contaminated items. It becomes an issue of risk and practicality.
I currently dispose of packaging straight after shopping and don't eat anything raw without giving it a wash and leaving it for a day or so. Whether that helps much, or if the risk is even significant I don't know.
I have some guidelines but are in spanishYeah in all seriousness I can't blame people for doing this sort of thing. Especially since there doesn't seem to be any easy to find government advise.
I think it's more to do with half-arsed journalists turning an isolated incident with a grumpy prick into a "people abuse binmen, civilization is breaking down" story.
People have to realise it's not about their freedom, its about the fecking health of everyone.
If it is necessary to stay at home to safe thousands of lifes even for a full year, so be it.
You can't blame the goverments for this. You could blame them if they didn't care for our lifes.
If a government's plan to deal with the crisis was to lock things down for a year with no expectation of serious social unrest then the fault for that plan's inevitable failure would be theirs, for not basing their plans on reaslistic human behaviour. The reality is that people simply won't compliantly stay at home for a year, even if we wish they would, even if it's in their own best interests and even if it saves lives. Because they're people, with all the flaws and limitations that implies.
Going into lockdown at some point will be the right move for most countries. If anyone expects that lockdown to be anything other than unsustainable though then they are deluded. Which is why so many countries repeatedly stressed the dangers of implementing these measures too early, they already know they won't last beyond a certain point.
The best you can hope for from an Italian style lockdown is that you implement it at the right time, you make the most of it while it's there, you manage your population to keep them compliant for as long as possible and you exit the lockdown in a measured & managed process. Exit you must though and in a much shorter time frame than a year.
Cheers.I have some guidelines but are in spanish
Basically you need to have a red point at the entrance where you will leave your street clothes (virus can only stay 12-24 hours in fabric), you pass a wipe with alcohol or hand sanitizer on the packages that you bought. Clean whatever you touched and go to shower. Leave the food that you will eat raw (and not packaged) 24 hours at least at the red point. The one you will cook will kill the virus
Come to the UK then feck off once we're done with you
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...es-to-fly-in-farm-workers-from-eastern-europe
One hundred thousand flights daily?
Are they counting drones and paper aeroplanes too?
That's shite on a stick news surely.
Can’t say I know how I would respond to that.Well it's official. They've told my wife they're a “Covid unit” now
It’s not been easy.Can’t say I know how I would respond to that.
Kudos to those at the frontline.
Fair enough. Ventilators need planes more than people.Airfreight flights -- I doubt have been affected badly if not increased.
Dr. Vladimir (Zev) Zelenko
Board Certified Family Practitioner
501 Rt 208, Monroe, NY 10950
845-238-0000
March 23, 2020
To all medical professionals around the world:
My name is Dr. Zev Zelenko and I practice medicine in Monroe, NY. For the last 16 years, I have cared for approximately 75% of the adult population of Kiryas Joel, which is a very close knit community of approximately 35,000 people in which the infection spread rapidly and unchecked prior to the imposition of social distancing.
As of today my team has tested approximately 200 people from this community for Covid-19, and 65% of the results have been positive. If extrapolated to the entire community, that means more than 20,000 people are infected at the present time. Of this group, I estimate that there are 1500 patients who are in the high-risk category (i.e. >60, immunocompromised, comorbidities, etc).
Given the urgency of the situation, I developed the following treatment protocol in the pre-hospital setting and have seen only positive results:
1. Any patient with shortness of breath regardless of age is treated.
2. Any patient in the high-risk category even with just mild symptoms is treated.
3. Young, healthy and low risk patients even with symptoms are not treated (unless their circumstances change and they fall into category 1 or 2).
My out-patient treatment regimen is as follows:
1. Hydroxychloroquine 200mg twice a day for 5 days
2. Azithromycin 500mg once a day for 5 days
3. Zinc sulfate 220mg once a day for 5 days
The rationale for my treatment plan is as follows. I combined the data available from China and South Korea with the recent study published from France (sites available on request). We know that hydroxychloroquine helps Zinc enter the cell. We know that Zinc slows viral replication within the cell. Regarding the use of azithromycin, I postulate it prevents secondary bacterial infections. These three drugs are well known and usually well tolerated, hence the risk to the patient is low.
Since last Thursday, my team has treated approximately 350 patients in Kiryas Joel and another 150 patients in other areas of New York with the above regimen.
Of this group and the information provided to me by affiliated medical teams, we have had ZERO deaths, ZERO hospitalizations, and ZERO intubations. In addition, I have not heard of any negative side effects other than approximately 10% of patients with temporary nausea and diarrhea.
In sum, my urgent recommendation is to initiate treatment in the outpatient setting as soon as possible in accordance with the above. Based on my direct experience, it prevents acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), prevents the need for hospitalization and saves lives.
With much respect,
Dr. Zev Zelenko
cc: President Donald J. Trump; Mr. Mark Meadows, Chief of Staff
I remember seeing Dr Zelenko talk about this treatment days ago. I think it's disgusting that people are trying to shove this under the carpet. Some governors are even banning it. The below tweet sums it up best.
I posted about it yesterday. Many people in the south of Italy live hand-to-mouth with undeclared income. When the shops, bars and markets closed, they had nothing in their pockets and no official record of employment.I think in the south its probably true, I dont see it in the north though.
A lot cant get government help because they've spent their whole lives dodging tax, and now theyre moaning they're stuck indoors when nearly 1000 people a day are dying because of this? There are bigger things going on.
"You will all be fine"
I don't think this is a guy you can trust when he's making such definitive statements about something so difficult to predict. He seems like an attention seeker.
May have already been asked but why aren't clubs furloughing players.
Furlough is different. It's a temporary lay off on 80% salary paid by government. It has nothing to do with self isolatingThey have haven’t they? At least they’re all self isolating like everyone else.
May have already been asked but why aren't clubs furloughing players.
Well it's official. They've told my wife they're a “Covid unit” now
I remember seeing Dr Zelenko talk about this treatment days ago. I think it's disgusting that people are trying to shove this under the carpet. Some governors are even banning it. The below tweet sums it up best.
Furlough is different. It's a temporary lay off on 80% salary paid by government. It has nothing to do with self isolating
Could you tell me which governors (singular or plural) are banning it? As far as I can tell state health authorities are suggesting caution in a clinical setting and recommend preventing off label prescriptions in order to prevent hoarding. They seem to be waiting for confirmation that it's useful and at what dose that is. This is what competent people do.
The tweet you say "says it best" seems on its face to be completely moronic. France changing its recommendations in the light of fresh and evaluated medical evidence is precisely the action it should be taking.