SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

With the high blood pressure thing is it due to the medication or the condition? Seems to be very uncertain...pretty sure I've
Look at the breakdown from amount of tests and the amount of positive results, from both government and from decode. They are totally and utterly different. If there were many asymptotic cases, decode would have a "better" success rate. And I believe there are 20-50% asymptotic cases. Finnish government thinks there are 90-95% asymptotic, no way is that possible.

About 1% is positive for decode, and 14% for government. So totally skewed data.

Hang on I think we're talking at crossed purposes here. I'm just trying to highlight that based on their mass testing they have found more than 50% of cases are asymptomatic. So 20% is very unlikely.
 
The interesting stats i can see today is around the deaths per million of population, the UK is one of the lower figures.The next few days will be critical.
 
Just looking at some stats and it appears that Belgium had their first case a few days after the UK, they locked down really really early in terms of deaths but still have twice the deaths per capita as the UK, or am I missing something here?
 
There are plenty of vaccines at various stages but the bottleneck for all will be clinical trials. Easily over a year before widely available.
I see, then I guess the next best thing is easy testing? The question is then that how far are we from developing a cheap affordable test that can be done with or without laboratory conditions. There's a company based in pune that claims to be capable of manufacturing screening kits for 1000 rs, thats like 10 pounds. Any news of cheaper kits?
 
"were"

Do you see how annoying it is to be pedantic for no good reason?

Well if you want to get properly pedantic, was is actually the correct use of the term. I was talking about a statement of fact, rather than a subjunctive mood. However this thread isn't the place for educating.
 
I know you meant well, and I mean as well too. I'm just doing exactly as Government advised.

My sister works at UCL hospital and is tending to ventilated patients right now. I asked her advice hours before my flight, and she told me as per Ministry of Health, my requirement was work from home and isolation/distancing as other's UNTIL I noticed any symptoms, and then strict quarantine. I've read the website after I landed.

Forgive me for only listening/reading to official sources and not a person from internet who thinks he is a pigeon :)
Do you need the government to tell you to wipe your bum too?

would common sense not tell you that it’s not a good idea to go straight into mingling with other people after a 14 hour flight back from Asia?

yes the advice is not down in writing but they are appealing to people to stay home unless absolutely necessary
 
New cases here in the UK seem to be going up rapidly over the last few days but nobody seems to mention it, up by around about 2000 today.
 
Well if you want to get properly pedantic, was is actually the correct use of the term. I was talking about a statement of fact, rather than a subjunctive mood. However this thread isn't the place for educating.
You is right.

I stands corrected.
 
New cases here in the UK seem to be going up rapidly over the last few days but nobody seems to mention it, up by around about 2000 today.

That could be attributed to the fact that more have been admitted and tested, the recovery rates will be the data point to read over the coming days in line with that case number.
 
Quite. His four kids all medical professionals as well.

This country would've been utterly screwed long ago without the contribution of British South Asians to the NHS.
The Caribbean too.
 
New cases here in the UK seem to be going up rapidly over the last few days but nobody seems to mention it, up by around about 2000 today.

The combination of exponential growth + more testing means it would be freakish if new cases weren't increasing rapidly.
 
A total of 120,776 people have been tested for coronavirus in the UK as of 9am on March 28.
 
The curve was showing very small signs of starting to flatten. Then had a bump in last day.

They reckon it's because virus is picking up in centre/South of Italy so while North (original epicentre) slowing, rest of country kicking up.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/
You're right, it isn't quite at the peak nor is it declining but it should soon. However I know people in here and the media will focus on the 10,000 deaths. I've been following the Italian situation so the numbers aren't really that surprising for the most part. I think it will reach 15k, maybe 20k unless the decline happens soon or happens suddenly.
 
A total of 120,776 people have been tested for coronavirus in the UK as of 9am on March 28.
The DHSC tweet says 120,776 tests rather than people. That makes me think that at least some of those 120,776 were re-tests (which makes sense, given that we need to re-test in order to know when somebody is finally healthy).

But then the same tweet says that there were 17,089 positives. Should we be assuming that some of those positives also came from re-tests? Or have we had a grand total of 17.089 people with the disease? It's a little unclear.



EDIT:Scratch that. The official site says it's people.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public
 
I know you meant well, and I mean as well too. I'm just doing exactly as Government advised.

My sister works at UCL hospital and is tending to ventilated patients right now. I asked her advice hours before my flight, and she told me as per Ministry of Health, my requirement was work from home and isolation/distancing as other's UNTIL I noticed any symptoms, and then strict quarantine. I've read the website after I landed.

Forgive me for only listening/reading to official sources and not a person from internet who thinks he is a pigeon :)
I don't actually think I'm a pigeon you know, to base your entire argument on that is a bit daft. It's also daft to not use a bit of common sense when you can go two weeks without showing any symptoms. I know it's difficult for you to understand that because, as you've already asserted; you think I think I'm a bird.

It's EXTREMELY daft to get so uppity about the whole thing as well so I recommend you spend a couple of weeks thinking about why you're so defensive all the time on this forum. Preferably indoors and maintaining six feet of distance between you and others.

Six is the number after you've counted all the fingers one hand, just in case you're struggling. Again; I'm not an actual bird. Please try and remember that.
 
Not seen anything else he’s posted but based on what you’ve quoted how’s it even comparable? People from all countries have been advised to return home, I’ve seen many of my mates catching flights back from Bali and Australia - following governmental advice. People also have to go to the shop?
It’s more so him stating we need draconian measures etc, asking for manslaughter and premeditated murder charges, it was quite an emphatic stance to take. But then hes returned from a country that was put on the high risk and gone out shopping straight away. Wasnt anything to do with what you’ve said.
 
I don't actually think I'm a pigeon you know, to base your entire argument on that is a bit daft. It's also daft to not use a bit of common sense when you can go two weeks without showing any symptoms. I know it's difficult for you to understand that because, as you've already asserted; you think I think I'm a bird.

It's EXTREMELY daft to get so uppity about the whole thing as well so I recommend you spend a couple of weeks thinking about why you're so defensive all the time on this forum. Preferably indoors and maintaining six feet of distance between you and others.

Six is the number after you've counted all the fingers one hand, just in case you're struggling. Again; I'm not an actual bird. Please try and remember that.

Hello Birdman!
 
I don't actually think I'm a pigeon you know, to base your entire argument on that is a bit daft. It's also daft to not use a bit of common sense when you can go two weeks without showing any symptoms. I know it's difficult for you to understand that because, as you've already asserted; you think I think I'm a bird.

It's EXTREMELY daft to get so uppity about the whole thing as well so I recommend you spend a couple of weeks thinking about why you're so defensive all the time on this forum. Preferably indoors and maintaining six feet of distance between you and others.

Six is the number after you've counted all the fingers one hand, just in case you're struggling. Again; I'm not an actual bird. Please try and remember that.
Less tweeting. More posts please.
 
So 2 reasons why. I'm in USA but same applies UK or US.

We and you are too far ahead in transmission now. It's all in community. So identifying and isolating cases is not feasible in these numbers. Might as well general lockdown.

Even in the beginning their level of isolating identified cases would not be tolerated in either country imo. For example I know in S. Korea they used GPS to ensure isolation and monitor the quarantined people. That level of privacy invasion is difficult here or UK.

That's my take on it. Has been that way for a while.

The UK is one of the most heavily surveilled countries in the world and has been for years. 1000s of private companies have access to "personal" data like this:



South Korea were just more competent, prepared and proactive in dealing with the threat than the UK were, nothing to do with culture. Doubly so for the US.
 
that's very worrying and must be frustrating knowing that you can't really do anything to help. Are the patients able to feed and go to the bathroom or are they so ill that they are totally bedridden?

If you have a ventilator, you are completely sedated for comfort. You are in what's called in layman's terms "medically induced coma" . Can't do anything. Applies for pretty much everyone on vent. Some (very few) do ok without sedation and so can communicate and even participate in physical therapy. But that's once in a blue moon.