SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Agreed but from the local information in my county which I reckon would be mirrored throughout all the others the local AE departments are witnessing a large reduction in the walking wounded. Cannot help but think we have abused the NHS for far too long. Certainly it’s underfunded but it’s also true that if we get the slightest snivel these days it’s off to the GP and AE departments for antibiotics, sick note or reassurance.

Very good point! Again I absolutely do not want to see the NHS privatised but you wouldn’t get people taking the piss if there was a consultation fee on arrival at A&E! The public needs a better working knowledge on health and well-being.
 
Bit of a moot poll considering Labour effectively has no leader, no mandate and has been effectively invisible for the last 3 months.
Yep seen little of Corbyn and he obviously feels so irrelevant now. Just the timing of that poll after the corona three tested positive.
Next election so far away they will probably still get away with the shambolic herd approach.
 
There is proof that vitamin c reduces the duration of the common cold though, so it's not a totally unfounded belief, and it certainly cant hurt you in any over the counter dosage.

I wonder how that intravenous vitamin c trial went in China. I haven't seen any results which probably means it didnt work.
I think vitamin c may be one of the most studied supplements. But still, what's the best published study you've seen for safety and effectiveness?
 
The WHO has repeatedly said that testing is the key.
The more you test the better they know this virus and the better the figures look.
Alas, in this country we have only just started testing in vast numbers which means our figures look better than what they are in terms of confirmed cases.
Germany has tested in vast numbers straight away, which gives their figure a true reflection.

Testing is only the 1st step. Its like a weighing machine. Tells me I am over-weight. Now what?

Containment is the key -- trace, track, map and isolate.
 
I think vitamin c may be one of the most studied supplements. But still, what's the best published study you've seen for safety and effectiveness?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23440782/

It's quite well established that it does have at least some effect on a cold, particularly for people carrying out intense exercise (and therefore having a depleted immune respone).

The Chinese study was something like 25,000mg daily given intravenously to Covid patients, so way beyond anything you would normally see.
 
Only 135 people who tested positive for this in the UK recovered (15%). I understand that's people who have been tested and are likely to be the elderly but it's still quite scary.
 
I thought this was quite an interesting graphic:
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Only 135 people who tested positive for this in the UK recovered (15%). I understand that's people who have been tested and are likely to be the elderly but it's still quite scary.

There's quite a long recovery time for the severely ill so those stats may just represent a bit of a lag on active cases. We should see a much higher percentage over the next few week hopefully.
 
With the 13 or 14 percent daily increase in deaths worldwide by next sunday there'll between 72 and 75k deaths worldwide. Crazy
 
There's quite a long recovery time for the severely ill so those stats may just represent a bit of a lag on active cases. We should see a much higher percentage over the next few week hopefully.
That's true. Hopefully not the opposite for the thousands of mild active cases :(
 
Only 135 people who tested positive for this in the UK recovered (15%). I understand that's people who have been tested and are likely to be the elderly but it's still quite scary.

Those who have been tested are mostly those who have been in hospital so they would take longer to recover than most with mild symptoms
 
I know you meant well, and I mean as well too. I'm just doing exactly as Government advised.

My sister works at UCL hospital and is tending to ventilated patients right now. I asked her advice hours before my flight, and she told me as per Ministry of Health, my requirement was work from home and isolation/distancing as other's UNTIL I noticed any symptoms, and then strict quarantine. I've read the website after I landed.

Forgive me for only listening/reading to official sources and not a person from internet who thinks he is a pigeon :)
 
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23440782/

It's quite well established that it does have at least some effect on a cold,
particularly for people carrying out intense exercise (and therefore having a depleted immune respone).

The Chinese study was something like 25,000mg daily given intravenously to Covid patients, so way beyond anything you would normally see.
The author concludes "The failure of vitamin C supplementation to reduce the incidence of colds in the general population indicates that routine vitamin C supplementation is not justified, yet vitamin C may be useful for people exposed to brief periods of severe physical exercise."

So when you say it does have some effect particularly for people carrying out intense exercise might it not be more accurate to say only for people carrying out intense exercise?
 
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23440782/

It's quite well established that it does have at least some effect on a cold, particularly for people carrying out intense exercise (and therefore having a depleted immune respone).

The Chinese study was something like 25,000mg daily given intravenously to Covid patients, so way beyond anything you would normally see.
Look at the data, it's really not that effective.
 
Only 135 people who tested positive for this in the UK recovered (15%). I understand that's people who have been tested and are likely to be the elderly but it's still quite scary.
The threshold for 'recovered' is that their tests return as negative. It doesn't take into account that some patients might feel absolutely fine despite still being positive.

And as you say, this figure only includes those who have previously been tested. Since we've only been testing serious cases, these patients will necessarily have been the ones with high viral loads. So it makes sense that it's taking a long time for the virus to clear their systems.

If you think about all the people who have never been tested because they had any serious symptoms to begin with, the real number of 'recovered' will probably be in the tens of thousands.
 
I know you meant well, and I mean as well too. I'm just doing exactly as Government advised.

My sister works at UCL hospital and is tending to ventilated patients right now. I asked her advice before she came, and she told me as per Ministry of Health, my requirement was work from home and isolation/distancing as other's UNTIL I noticed any symptoms, and then strict quarantine. I've read the website after I landed.

Forgive me for only listening/reading to official sources and not a person from internet who thinks he is a pigeon :)

It's pretty much full lockdown so anyone coming back from abroad doesn't have to do anything different from regular folk now.