SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Very interesting video. Using location data on mobiles, it chooses one beach in Florida during spring break and then tracks where all those people went after.

 
Starting to second guess myself, round mid to late February I had a bad cough like I'd never had before. Like waking up in the night with coughing fits. Probably nothing but making me consider did I have it. In Ireland by the way.
 
The feck is that? You can't go further than 1 km from where you live?

In theory in France, you can't go further than one or two kilometers from home. And we now have to precise the time we intend to be out.
 
Plans to reduce homelessness have been drastically brought forward. Amazingly it can be done with a little effort

The NHS has probably been saved as well. Nobody will now vote for anyone who has plans to scale it down.

Also, once this is over, people will appreciate normal life and freedom much more.

The plans are for temporary accommodation, putting people in B&Bs or short term lets on student accommodation for example. That will drop the number of rough sleepers temporarily, but won't make much impact on homelessness more generally. You're right on the NHS though, its already a sacred cow in this country and will be more so.
 
I said he looked ill last week at the things.

For the record, Raab takes over if hes too unwell to work.

And you all thought it couldn't get worse.
 
Best of health to him and his family.

Hopefully he can still do everything via video call, apparently the intolerable Raab is next in line apparently.


EDIT - @Nogbadthebad Great minds.
 
These articles, models and opinions popping up suggesting that it might have been here much longer than we thought and far more widespread than estimated seem a bit strange. Were there a bunch of unexplained deaths in europe over the last few months which no one was focused on? or is what we are seeing now a more deadly mutation? and why have health services in Europe seemingly only become stretched to breaking within the last month or so? and why did the tests from two weeks ago show a low confirmation.

Everything I read and see suggests that this situation in Europe is much more severe than a month ago and the severity seemed to balloon suddenly. These are all layman observations of something I don't know enough about though and am happy to be put right.
 
Exactly.

Let's be clear here. Labour from 2000 to 2010 oversaw a 24% reduction in acute care beds. From 2010 to 2018 there was a 12% decrease. Every party has been picking the bones of the NHS, because it's been such a money pit. It's not exclusive to the Conservatives by any stretch, or the UK. It's an international trend.

Not in England they didn't. Acute beds fell from 108k to 101k during that period (-7%). Geriatric and acute fell from 136k to 122k (-10%). From 2010 to now geriatric and acute (there are no individual figures) have fallen from 122k to 101k (-17%).

You can find the exact info here: https://www.england.nhs.uk/statisti...vailability-and-occupancy/bed-data-overnight/
 
I'm sure Boris's affluent and likeminded colleagues will be able to cover for him.
 
Plans to reduce homelessness have been drastically brought forward. Amazingly it can be done with a little effort

The NHS has probably been saved as well. Nobody will now vote for anyone who has plans to scale it down.

Also, once this is over, people will appreciate normal life and freedom much more.

It will be like new year's resolutions, people will care for a brief period of time and then return to their previous habits when things are somewhat normalised again.
 
I assume when Boris meant that we are going to have to accept that a lot of people will die from this, he was also entirely accepting that that might well include himself.
 
People seriously taking issue with the fact that Johnson was able to get tested so quickly?!
 
Remember:

Boris, 3rd March:

“I’m shaking hands continuously. I was at a hospital the other night where I think there were actually a few coronavirus patients and I shook hands with everybody, you’ll be pleased to know. I continue to shake hands."

Of course, he was lying then, the hospital he attended had no coronavirus patients at all. But still, listen to the experts.
 
People seriously taking issue with the fact that Johnson was able to get tested so quickly?!
Too right, he's doing feck all to help with Covid, just the usual bluff, bluster and lies while his mates plot a bold eugenically cleansed future. The NHS workers who are putting themselves directly in the line of fire to help people should always be first in the queue for the tests.
 
These articles, models and opinions popping up suggesting that it might have been here much longer than we thought and far more widespread than estimated seem a bit strange. Were there a bunch of unexplained deaths in europe over the last few months which no one was focused on? or is what we are seeing now a more deadly mutation? and why have health services in Europe seemingly only become stretched to breaking within the last month or so? and why did the tests from two weeks ago show a low confirmation.

Everything I read and see suggests that this situation in Europe is much more severe than a month ago and the severity seemed to balloon suddenly. These are all layman observations of something I don't know enough about though and am happy to be put right.
They are strange, and they're too convenient to accept because we all want to believe they're true - on a personal level I want last month's worst flu/cough of my life to be my infection, on a national scale, we want to think that lots of us have already has it, because all the models will then look a lot better in terms of the curves and where we are now. Unfortunately none of the testing data really backs it up, at the moment it's more of a "wouldn't it be nice" than something with an evidence base behind it.

That said, there are now some "strong, circumstantial" stories of earlier infections, like this one https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-...-sussex-family-may-have-infected-coronavirus/ that suggests at least one Brit had it back in mid-January (a month before the first tested positive case) and that he brought it back from a skiing trip in Austria and gave it to his family.

Only cases that ended up in hospital would have been noticed at all, and even there, an individual "odd" pneumonia particularly in an elderly patient wouldn't really be noticed at that time. When we get the antibody test we might actually start to understand the true story, and the history better.
 
If Johnson dies, does that mean more people will take it seriously and fewer people will die overall?


I suppose it's worth trying but I wish him and his family the best. I wouldn't mind if he was incapacitated for a week though and then we give it Raabsy till the end of the season.