SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

It’s a weird virus for sure. My Father in Law was around Arteta for the whole week prior to him getting tested and has been absolutely fine. If he did get it, then his Wife, my Wife and me have all been absolutely fine too although I will say I had a couple of nights last week where I just felt a bit “off” - not ill as such. I got a bit sweaty in bed (not in the good way) and felt quite hot and I may have experienced the loss of smell although taste seems to be ok. We went out for a run during that time and I was definitely slower and more lethargic than usual as the Mrs was running rings around me and we usually jog together fairly comfortably. I mean I still probably didn’t have it but you never know!

Pretty sure you had it. A colleague of mine and his father had the same symptoms and have been tested positive.
Both were in quarantine for 14 days.
 
Presumably any deaths 'missed' one day would eventually get captured at a later date so overall, curve should remain broadly reflective?

No, if you want to fit the data to a model, to get the number of infections and deaths, etc, on time, would be very important. The total numbers won't help validating or disproving anything.
 
I guess you've checked the overview list on:
https://www.asthma.org.uk/advice/triggers/coronavirus-covid-19/
It seems fairly specific on the drugs/dosages that mean someone's automatically in that high risk group.
The dosages have been raised since Wednesday.
My own inhaler symbicort stated 1 puff twice daily was enough to self isolate for 12 weeks, that's now been changed to 2 puffs twice daily. Which now means I have to return to work on Monday.
I'd advise any other sufferer to re-check.
 
There are messages going around where people are saying that, in the uk, the next couple of weeks is when this virus will be very bad and not to go out at all if you don't need to. More so than before.

Any truth?
 
There are messages going around where people are saying that, in the uk, the next couple of weeks is when this virus will be very bad and not to go out at all if you don't need to. More so than before.

Any truth?
The stats everywhere else suggest that's plausible. Whatever the case, if you can, I would stay home as long as possible. I have been out about 5 times in the last 10 days just to have a walk and I haven't had contact with anyone outside of my family since then. It simply seems the most prudent thing to do if you ask me. I am lucky that I can work from home though.
 
There are messages going around where people are saying that, in the uk, the next couple of weeks is when this virus will be very bad and not to go out at all if you don't need to. More so than before.

Any truth?

There’s a high probability, last weekends mother day activity will begin to impact this weekend (if the 7 day period is correct). Hence why we’re seeing a field hospital being built; they’re expecting a wave of cases.
 
There are messages going around where people are saying that, in the uk, the next couple of weeks is when this virus will be very bad and not to go out at all if you don't need to. More so than before.

Any truth?

Well of course there is some truth, but what is the source of the message? If it was from an official source we would have heard a little more about this during the 5pm briefings etc.

The virus is going to be bad for the next 2 weeks. After that, we should hopefully see a decline in new cases and deaths. Then after that, who knows. Maybe another 3 to 4 weeks of lockdown and then a gradual releasing of restrictions.
 
There are messages going around where people are saying that, in the uk, the next couple of weeks is when this virus will be very bad and not to go out at all if you don't need to. More so than before.

Any truth?
For London, the first big wave of (potentially over) pressure on the NHS is expected in early/mid April. So it would be fair to say that catching it in the next week or so would be an exceptionally bad idea - presumably why they stepped the guidance up last weekend.

Outside London the picture/timing might be a bit different, but I doubt they'll try and give different rules in different towns - except around things like transport or big construction sites maybe. People already think the message is confusing.
 
China have now closed their borders to all foreigners it seems. Hypocritical bastards :lol:
 
I'm guessing old Bruce was one of those ''traditional'' labour voters who was so angry at the labour party it forced him to vote tory.

Poor fella.
How anyone can still have any faith in Boris Johnson’s judgement calls is beyond me (as if it wasn’t already).
Labour being unelectable in 2019 is for another thread.

In fact, you seem less intent on discussing Coronavirus - and more intent on constant politicking. It's tiresome.
Er, that’s not exactly fair mate. Bruce was using this as an opportunity to lambast Labour and Sweet made a tongue-in-cheek comment to me, after I took umbrage to the needless Corbyn/Labour-bashing.
 
Because they are thick as feck, or just pig ignorant. The message is simple isn't it... Stay the feck at home.
Really? I take it you haven’t followed this closely then? ‘cos the messages we’ve been receiving from the government have flip flopped week to week.
 
There are messages going around where people are saying that, in the uk, the next couple of weeks is when this virus will be very bad and not to go out at all if you don't need to. More so than before.

Any truth?

Peak infection rate will happen over the next two weeks if one excludes the days when the people contaminated was relatively low (depending on testing capacity).
It will become "Italy/Spain" kind of bad if you run out of capacity for ICU and especially respirators, which is likely some places.
2-3 weeks after lockdown one will start seeing that the number of new infections starts to go down. Then one can begin to actively/aggressively test, track and isolate (Too late to use resources on this now at this phase). Then it will be a case of cat and mouse (loosening restrictions, actively test, tighten up when there are new cases) until there are effective treatment methods and/or a vaccine available.
 
Really? I take it you haven’t followed this closely then? ‘cos the messages we’ve been receiving from the government have flip flopped week to week.
It’s not hard to follow updated advice if you are following closely as you suggest you are.
Current advice is stay the feck in the house unless it’s essential travel or work. That’s not fecking hard to understand.

The amount of people being childish over this using words such as loopholes just to poke holes and find criticism in what’s going on So they can carry in their normal lives or look clever is crazy.

Just stay in the fecking house
 
It’s not hard to follow updated advice if you are following closely as you suggest you are.
Current advice is stay the feck in the house unless it’s essential travel or work. That’s not fecking hard to understand.

The amount of people being childish over this using words such as loopholes just to poke holes and find criticism in what’s going on So they can carry in their normal lives or look clever is crazy.

Just stay in the fecking house
Absolute bollocks, a few days ago Boris Johnson was talking about people enjoying parks and spending time outdoors for fecks sake!! Yes, lots of people have known for a while that they need to stay indoors and minismise contact with others, but denying the mixed messages that have been relayed is sheer lunacy.
 
Chester Zoo are doing a virtual visit, today on Facebook live, for those who like zoos and are bored at home.

I think it sounds fun.

Kicks off at ten with the red pandas.

 
Absolute bollocks, a few days ago Boris Johnson was talking about people enjoying parks and spending time outdoors for fecks sake!! Yes, lots of people have known for a while that they need to stay indoors and minismise contact with others, but denying the mixed messages that have been relayed is sheer lunacy.

No he wasn't. The message has been consistent for the past 7 days. Some people did not follow the guidance and took go for a walk in the park as take the whole family 50 miles away to the beach. He has had to repeat the same message day after day. Stay home, stay safe. Simple.
 
Regarding USA and the hype around becoming number one with 85k cases. For a western country of 330 million, to be on par with a typical large European country it would be 300k cases, US is still early so don't be alarmed when it hits 300-400k and has 5-8x the deaths. Most of the US area doesn't have the population density but we see it spreading eventually in European countries with more space and less contact culture than say Spain or Italy so it will work through US and US health is a concern.
 
No he wasn't. The message has been consistent for the past 7 days. Some people did not follow the guidance and took go for a walk in the park as take the whole family 50 miles away to the beach. He has had to repeat the same message day after day. Stay home, stay safe. Simple.

I mean the government have changed the wording on their own website a few times, so it hasn’t been consistent has it?
 
Taking a thread off topic
Yeah, if only they could find someone in the mould of Boris Johnson!
Just shows you how unelectable corbyn was when the torts won a landslide with a leader that a lot of people seen as a comedy side show for years
 
Regarding USA and the hype around becoming number one with 85k cases. For a western country of 330 million, to be on par with a typical large European country it would be 300k cases, US is still early so don't be alarmed when it hits 300-400k and has 5-8x the deaths. Most of the US area doesn't have the population density but we see it spreading eventually in European countries with more space and less contact culture than say Spain or Italy so it will work through US and US health is a concern.


The US dark figures are way above 300k imo
 
How anyone can still have any faith in Boris Johnson’s judgement calls is beyond me (as if it wasn’t already).

Er, that’s not exactly fair mate. Bruce was using this as an opportunity to lambast Labour and Sweet made a tongue-in-cheek comment to me, after I took umbrage to the needless Corbyn/Labour-bashing.


Theirs been plenty of bashing all round. If your that easily offended, your in for a hard life. I have my views like everyone else. If you don't agree with them that's your prerogative but I'll not be losing any sleep over it.
 
Absolute bollocks, a few days ago Boris Johnson was talking about people enjoying parks and spending time outdoors for fecks sake!! Yes, lots of people have known for a while that they need to stay indoors and minismise contact with others, but denying the mixed messages that have been relayed is sheer lunacy.

Carry on finding your loopholes
 
Regarding USA and the hype around becoming number one with 85k cases. For a western country of 330 million, to be on par with a typical large European country it would be 300k cases, US is still early so don't be alarmed when it hits 300-400k and has 5-8x the deaths. Most of the US area doesn't have the population density but we see it spreading eventually in European countries with more space and less contact culture than say Spain or Italy so it will work through US and US health is a concern.
Yeah, that number was always going to be reached. The real metric we should be watching is number of Waffle Houses closing; it is over 400 now. Those things stay open during hurricanes and probably even some zombie apocalypses also I would assume.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/25/business/coronavirus-waffle-house-trnd/index.html
 
Clap for Carers is great, but I've seen a lot of pictures of people standing outside their houses in large groups. How's that going to help the NHS?
I've not seen this. I've seen plenty of what look like larger households together. 5-6 people. Otherwise everyone over 2 metres apart.
 
Yeah, if only they could find someone in the mould of Boris Johnson!
Just shows you how unelectable corbyn was when the torts won a landslide with a leader that a lot of people seen as a comedy side show for years

Let’s forget that the world is fighting the worse pandemic its probably ever faced. Let’s carry on being pillocks and morons and arguing whether the dicks I support are better than the dicks that you support. Go have your childish rants in one of the political threads as this is about Covid 19
 
Peak infection rate will happen over the next two weeks if one excludes the days when the people contaminated was relatively low (depending on testing capacity).
It will become "Italy/Spain" kind of bad if you run out of capacity for ICU and especially respirators, which is likely some places.
2-3 weeks after lockdown one will start seeing that the number of new infections starts to go down. Then one can begin to actively/aggressively test, track and isolate (Too late to use resources on this now at this phase). Then it will be a case of cat and mouse (loosening restrictions, actively test, tighten up when there are new cases) until there are effective treatment methods and/or a vaccine available.

It took 3-4 weeks after lockdowns started for China to really see that they had the virus under control. Italy is 3 weeks in and seems to be right at the top of the curve now. I don't think the UK will see the worst within the next two weeks considering how loose the regulations are and how many people are flouting them, but ultimately i don't think the UK will have it as bad because of how British people live.
 
Just watching some of Trumps press conference and note that Pence stands really close to him.... there are people in the Amazon forest who know about the 2 metre rule?!!

Imagine if one of them caught it and gave it to the other one... the President and Vice President could both die.

Just imagine.....
All the people living in harmony
Woohoo
 
feck. A 16 year old with no underlying health conditions has passed away in France.

I managed to take a step back from this but its still so concerning.