SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Raab takes over if Boris can't do the job, in the short term, I believe.
Raab

The man who didn't realise dover was an important part of our food supply lines, and thought Lima was in Singapore.
Thanks guys. While not ideal that's better than JRM, although I was kinda looking forward to the government recommendations of bloodletting, leaches and the like.
 
Wonder how he's got that info. I thought data protection/phone companies holding info secure would prevent that?

At first glance, I saw all the hotspots and thought "why have all those Spring Breakers come to Europe?" but I'm guessing hotspots are ALL shown here (white)?

Reminds me I'm fortunate to live rurally.
The data is still anonymized, you just know there's a cellphone user there, not who they are and what their mobile number is. Cell companies routinely sell that data, same as credit card companies selling your purchase history, internet companies, apps, social networks etc selling your logging habits etc.
 
I work closely with a man who went to the Stereophonics concert, his wife works in a supermarket and his daughter works in a school. He’s like a walking Covid19 carrier but neither of us has shown any signs of being unwell. I’m classed as a key worker so still going into work.

Meanwhile, just heard 2 people have died that I know local :( , my old teacher and an older taxi driver
 
If Johnson dies, does that mean more people will take it seriously and fewer people will die overall?
Well first it means that the world would become a slightly better place.
 
Raab takes over if Boris can't do the job, in the short term, I believe.
yes - though apparently there is "lobbying" for gove to take over ... (presumably because is a horrible power obsessed opportunistic tosser)

https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/23/government-draws-plans-boris-johnson-catches-coronavirus-12443291/

he Foreign Secretary would lead the country if Boris Johnson became unwell during the coronavirus crisis. The Prime Minister’s official spokesman confirmed that Dominic Raab would stand in were the PM to get sick. The spokesman said: ‘The Prime Minister is well… the Foreign Secretary is the First Secretary of State.’ If Mr Raab was also ill, the PM has the power to delegate responsibility to any of his ministers, the spokesman added. It comes amid reported ‘lobbying’ for Michael Gove, the cabinet office minister and Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, to temporarily take over as a stand-in prime minister if needed or if he takes paternity leave when his child is born later this year.
 
That's what he is doing. You cannot seriously argue he shouldn't have been tested.
don't you think it's important to test the Prime Minister?

aside from the fact he's an important politician, he must surely meet loads of people on a daily basis who'd want to know if he tested positive
Relax, I'm asking from a logistical standpoint because I thought he was doing a lot of his work remotely since a few days ago. No need to get sassy @Grinner, save your name calling for somewhere else.

I'm genuinely asking, I get it now if he's still meeting lots of people in/out from his office and if he tested privately. It's a sore topic for me as my wife will likely go to Excel and my mum still works every day for NHS and neither have testing, just makes my blood boil when people get tests from mild symptoms no matter what role they play ahead of doctors/nurses who are at far higher risk and their lives are just as important as any other.
 
Ok, so this is the no tin foil hat thread.. so where's the tin foil hat thread?
 
So? Why can't he self isolate from having symptoms and pass the duty on for the isolation period? We are already taking the piss on our testing whilst our underfunded NHS doctors nurses and pharmacists are around covid patience 18 hours a day, and this warrants a test more? He could have self isolated if he had symptoms - why can't he do that? Why does he need a test? His symptoms were mild, he's not in a dangerous age category, he doesnt appear to have underlying health problems.

Because he is running the feckkng country ffs. Whether we agree with what he’s doing or like him or whatever
 
So? Why can't he self isolate from having symptoms and pass the duty on for the isolation period? We are already taking the piss on our testing whilst our underfunded NHS doctors nurses and pharmacists are around covid patience 18 hours a day, and this warrants a test more? He could have self isolated if he had symptoms - why can't he do that? Why does he need a test? His symptoms were mild, he's not in a dangerous age category, he doesnt appear to have underlying health problems.
Because, he holds the most important post in the country, I really shouldn’t have to explain it to you.
 
The issue isn't with importance of testing the prime minister.

It's to do with the hundreds of NHS/Emergency workers who are being refused tests despite being exposed to the virus on a daily basis.

He can do his job remotely, those on the front lines can't. But I'm sure clapping for them made up for it.
 
Imagine questioning if we should test the leader of our country :lol: I think the bloke is a buffoon, but its just bizarre logic to think he's not an important person to test.
 
yes - though apparently there is "lobbying" for gove to take over ... (presumably because is a horrible power obsessed opportunistic tosser)

https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/23/government-draws-plans-boris-johnson-catches-coronavirus-12443291/
Well if The Metro says it, it's gospel.

Forgot parliamentary law, The Metro says there is lobbying (maybe).

Media talk absolute shite. BBC last night determined to say "it's been suggested xxxx could happen" rather than "it's been reported that in very very unlikely circumstances, xxxx could happen".

Idiots
 
I saw that, just shows how it is likely spreading.

That was just one beach.

Over here, you could probably see that from the cheltenham festival, the liverpool champions league game and that stereophonics concert too.

Absolutely. It just underscores the lunacy of not shutting everything down as early as possible.
 
The issue isn't with importance of testing the prime minister.

It's to do with the hundreds of NHS/Emergency workers who are being refused tests despite being exposed to the virus on a daily basis.

He can do his job remotely, those on the front lines can't. But I'm sure clapping for them made up for it.

I think this is the point that most are missing here, there are plenty of people who are actively doing the hard work that aren't being tested. If anything, to ensure that we have a big enough front line ready to tackle the volume of cases that we'll inevitably see.
 
I think this is the point that most are missing here, there are plenty of people who are actively doing the hard work that aren't being tested. If anything, to ensure that we have a big enough front line ready to tackle the volume of cases that we'll inevitably see.

Like it or not they are considered expendable where as the PM really isn't. I can imagine the decision has been taken that it's better to not know right now since we can't afford to have a load of medical professionals in 14 day isolation.
 
At entertaining idiocy?
It's not idiocy. He's just announced he can continue to do his job whilst isolating. He was putting himself and others at unnecessary risk, when he could've been working from home like everyone else who can. He only required testing due to him refusing to follow his own rules.
 
The Florida beach spread shows to me that the virus must be absolutely everywhere by now. If all those people there infected just one other and you kept following those hotspots for a few days the whole map would look bright orange. Same goes for Cheltenham and sports matches while they were still being played.

It’s hard to get my head around as it seems the virus is so contagious and easy to catch most of Britain should have caught it in within days of it being here.

If it stayed on hand rails, cash machines, taxi/rail handles a for few days after being touched by infectious person it would surely spread like wild fire, a lot faster than we have seen
 
The issue isn't with importance of testing the prime minister.

It's to do with the hundreds of NHS/Emergency workers who are being refused tests despite being exposed to the virus on a daily basis.

He can do his job remotely, those on the front lines can't. But I'm sure clapping for them made up for it.

Thanks, this is was more what I'm getting at. He runs a very important job and I understand the need for testing but I don't understand how he would put others at risk any more, or even close to as much as, anyone working a hospital.

If symptoms were mild and he was working remotely I was unsure why he can't take the advice he gives and self isolate and work remotely where possible, handing over duties if necessary saying he has symptoms. But fair fecks he runs the country, I guess that makes his life more important.
 
I think this is the point that most are missing here, there are plenty of people who are actively doing the hard work that aren't being tested. If anything, to ensure that we have a big enough front line ready to tackle the volume of cases that we'll inevitably see.

This has nothing to do with the question whether the PM should be tested or not, though. He is the most imporant person in the country and has to get preferred treatment.
 
Like it or not they are considered expendable where as the PM really isn't. I can imagine the decision has been taken that it's better to not know right now since we can't afford to have a load of medical professionals in 14 day isolation.

This isn't a point about the Prime Minister and his role due to his expendability (for a different thread/discussion, but essentially he's a mouthpiece). It's the principle of solving this head on, and the most successful countries have done it in two stages - testing, and contact tracing. The latter comes once we've got the first resolved, but forgive me when i don't have sympathy for a two tier testing system that we currently have in place, which is basically down to money/accessibility or whether you have severe symptoms of the virus.
 
Another good news story of tough oldies in Italy - Italian papers reporting that a man aged 101 has been discharged from hospital in Rimini, having recovered from the virus.