Sorry but that is a fecking joke. you should be tested immediately and isolated
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Sorry but that is a fecking joke. you should be tested immediately and isolated
The virus doesn't appear to be very well aerosolised (nuclei of <=5 μm), meaning it doesn't hang around in the air waiting to be inhaled.
C19 seems to mostly be transmitted through droplets (>5 μm ) which land on surfaces and are then introduced to the face via people's hands.
If I had to guess, I'd think that regular face masks are mostly useful when worn by already infected people to stop them from coughing droplets everywhere. But they're likely also helpful for medical professionals who have a lot of close contact with infected individuals, and might otherwise breathe in a stray droplet or two. In either case, a properly fitted breathable cloth should do the trick (N95 can stop 95% of particles >0.3μm).
Probably not of great use to the average Joe going about his day in the toilet paper aisle of the supermarket, though. Social distancing is going to be more effective in that circumstance.
(Obviously, the science isn't fully in yet, so take with a heap of salt).
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Interesting article.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51979654
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51979654
This is potentially massive. Any source for this mate?
Droplets which are <5 micron mix very well with the air, even in quiescient conditions. This fact is exploited in techniques to measure air velocity in wind tunnels. If the air has any sort of motion, these droplets will follow the air motion well and could potentially stay within the air for some time before settling to the ground.
Larger droplets have a greater terminal velocity and therefore, in quiescient air, settle more quickly to the surfaces. However, larger droplets also distort in shape due to the oncoming flow, and this may lead to breakup (into smaller droplets), depending on how large the droplet becomes. Larger droplets can follow the air flow, but it becomes complicated and is non-trivial.
The interview on Fox that Trump, Pence, the doctor (not Fauci but the lady) and Surgeon General gave.
It also explains why the US is having as many daily cases as Italy and Spain combined, but much fewer fatalities. Simply cause the US is doing now more tests than any other countries, so it is finding people with no (or very few) symptoms. Also, in Europe, Germany has by far the lowest fatality rate (from large countries) and they are doing more tests than other countries. So likely, it is a matter of many people who have it but don't know that they have it.
I know it on a personal level as both my sister in law and my niece has been tested positive. One is a RN and the other is a doctor and both have been dealing with the patients and they told me that they have no protective clothing. I now think my sister in law's husband has got it too and he has asthma and is a sick man. It is so sad and so pathetic. Now it is said that the US knew about this in January. The same day Korea knew and tested the first positive case the US tested and found positive their first case.
It’s obviously even more dangerous in cases of people respecting others, but it is potentially massive.
Imagine being that much further along the curve than we think we are, perhaps with more and more symptomless people developing immunity.
It would mean that death and serious illness percentages are well below where they actually are registering and could mean that many more people already have antibodies in their system.
It could be early days in Germany and the USA, but the fact that Singapore and South Korea have similar data is extremely encouraging.
It’s possibly the best news in many days.
Bloody ell, where are you located?
And kill a large proportion of Tory voters. Boris never does anything that doesn't benefit him.
Just looking at the news tonight and all major cities and town high streets are ghost towns bar London (and even that is more public transport).
Of course it's not just town high streets but out of town retail parks and then housing estates which will more difficult to control over next three weeks.
The actual figure the government are looking at btw for succesful use of this method is 75% obeying so you factor in the 1/5 who simply won't want to do it which will be the groups of 2 or more.
Greater immunity yes. But herd immunity will required 70-90% of us getting infected, it in the absence of a vaccine. I think the only real plan is to lock down to the point where ICU's aren't overwhelmed and only relax things if we start to get spare capacity. Otherwise the fatality rate will spike due to a lack of medical care. A treatment and/or vaccine are desperately needed. Fingers crossed the researchers can break records getting this to fruition but unless something is already in human trials even a year is unlikely - sadly.
Apparently people were having barbecues in the UK today, unreal
Damn that's awful. Understandable in these times but how we allow the country to come to a standstill for things like this is shocking. We never had a proper plan in place even though in 2016 we determined the NHS was not capable of dealing with an incident such as the one we are in four years later. Nothing was done about it.
I think you might be referring to https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-52025918
My sister lives not too far from there, it's a bit of a meh area but no excuses people should be ashamed.
Top advice from Ashley Young of all people, trending on Twitter
Last year, at our local GP, the facilities to book face to face appointments online were removed. The only option remaining online was to book "phone appointments". If you rang or visited reception, you could still only book phone appointments. Later in the year, they removed all facilities to book phone appointments online. In essence, you couldn't do anything online anymore. Therefore the only way to book any appointment was to call the reception (good luck, queues were long) or visit the surgery. There were times last year the phone lines were down.
They changed a perfectly good working system (had a 2-3 week wait for non essential appointments) to a hectic, cumbersome appointments system that was not fit for purpose. I dread to imagine what the service is like right now.
Get the batons out.
Youngy for PM.
He certainly would do a better job than Bojo
Unfortunately like Bojo he often doesn't quite hit the mark.
It says at the bottom it wasnt live though. That's quite misleading.
I think this is true for almost every country in the western world. Hospital beds and equipment are expensive items, and future pandemics have been treated as a spooky campfire story, discussed as a real thing, but in financial terms ultimately given the same creedence as an asteroid collision.
By the way, a question for the medically trained here: If a Covid-19 patient in a high risk group was put on oxygen at the first sign of respiratory problems, would they significantly increase their chances of making it through, or does the virus work its thing regardless?
South Korea seemed to get on top of things thanks to their phenomenal contact tracing. Proper sci fi shit. Data mining from CCTV networks, tracking credit card transactions, bollocks to GDPR. They just got it done.
From what I’ve read about China, their brilliance was in rapid diagnosis (fever clinics with a “while u wait” rapid PCR test and CT scan) as well as having the infrastructure to isolate people away from family units in mass quarantine centres. That and a general public spiritedness. People wanted to do the right thing. They felt a shared responsibility to do everything they needed to do to stop the virus spreading. Couldn’t be more different to all the examples of UK and American people behaving like selfish arsehole. IMO it’s unfair the way they’re being stereotyped as being bullied into submission. Sounds much more like the sort of civic responsibility we badly need to emulate to get through this.
The paper which discussed survivablity on surfaces and aerosols was also very misleading as well.
Anyone?
Looks more like South america
What a hero!
It is going from bad to worse in the US. New York has been badly hit today. Now the papers are saying that the US had a team in China monitoring the Covid but Trump cut its funding. CDC had a team in China for tracking new threats like the Covid but Trump cuts the funding for it. The US also rejected the WHO standard for testing kits and tried to manufacture their own which was found to be faulty and had to re do the whole thing again. It is one huge clusterfeck created by a clusterfeck himself,
Fake news. Clip of Brazilian cops.
If you have only one disposable FFP2/3 mask, I’d save it for when you might really need it.
kinell. no messing around there. that leg sweep was well done.
Italy's total of infections could be as many as 640,000 according to Health chief Angelo Borrelli . Which would suggest that the actual fatality rate is close to 1%.
Is it possible for trump to face impeachment again?