SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Someone posted on Twitter that all the lockdown, physical inactivity, delays in graduation and subsequent unemployment could be precipitating a mental health crisis and I agree.

More and more I'm beginning to lean towards letting the lower risk population out and to work or school while concentrating the isolation towards higher risk groups as soon as the curve starts to flatten a bit.

What exactly do you think the mental health crisis will be like if tens of thousands of people start dying each week? Seriously we can’t feck around with this shit.
 
Now some experts are blaming the government for the Liverpool Vs Athletico match at Anfield. Lots of Spanish from Madrid made the trip. Even then La Liga has been suspended and they are saying government should never have allowed the Spanish supporters to come or to even hold the match. For sure it will be dangerous now.
 
What exactly do you think the mental health crisis will be like if tens of thousands of people start dying each week? Seriously we can’t feck around with this shit.

I think that’s a bit too black & white. Eventually some form of normality has to come back to life or mentally & economically the country can’t cope at a certain point.

It’s just where that line is, I agree in the near future when safer to do so after everyone is being sensible with social distancing for now is to get those less at risk & not showing symptoms somehow back to normality.

This can’t go on indefinitely
 
Australia's pubs, bars, gyms, restaurants and the like are closing in 40 mins time.

I thought it was set to start on Tuesday. I need to go get myself an Xbox and Fifa today before lockdown. I split up with missus just before this, and she was due to find somewhere else to live but that has now been halted due to the virus and uncertainty so this lockdown should be fun....
 
The global mortality rate is up to 4.35% now..

Even if there are double the number of cases... half people being asymptomatic .. its still well above 2%.. and that is with around 10K people in critical condition .. and hospitals just about reaching full capacity..

It's not getting better anytime soon, is it?
 
Unsurprisingly, I can't bloody sleep. Despite being the temperature of a volcano.
 
Now some experts are blaming the government for the Liverpool Vs Athletico match at Anfield. Lots of Spanish from Madrid made the trip. Even then La Liga has been suspended and they are saying government should never have allowed the Spanish supporters to come or to even hold the match. For sure it will be dangerous now.

Personally, I blame Liverpool.
 
If I had to pick one poster to not get this virus it would be you Steve, damn I'm gonna miss you.
Ha, thanks, mate. :) Seriously though, it's more likely that I'm suffering from hypochondria. :D
 
I thought it was set to start on Tuesday. I need to go get myself an Xbox and Fifa today before lockdown. I split up with missus just before this, and she was due to find somewhere else to live but that has now been halted due to the virus and uncertainty so this lockdown should be fun....
You will have to call the baby covid.
 
I thought it was set to start on Tuesday. I need to go get myself an Xbox and Fifa today before lockdown. I split up with missus just before this, and she was due to find somewhere else to live but that has now been halted due to the virus and uncertainty so this lockdown should be fun....

That should be fun.
 
The global mortality rate is up to 4.35% now..

Even if there are double the number of cases... half people being asymptomatic .. its still well above 2%.. and that is with around 10K people in critical condition .. and hospitals just about reaching full capacity..

It's not getting better anytime soon, is it?

There are probably far more than double with most mild and undiagnosed/untested
 
I think a seven year old child died of Covid in Brazil today. I'm struggling to validate the sources, and I do not yet know if this should be a worldwide concern or just a random exception, but I nevertheless must share my concerns/advice, as scary and crude as they may be:
- Children can kill their grandparents
- In the (admittedly very low) chance your child may suffer health cmplications...
- She will be alone most of the time. You cannot, like in other paedriatic diseases, accompany your child during internment
- They may get critically ill and die, and you're unlikely to be able to have a 'proper burial', maybe even parents will not be able to attend.

This post is so alarming to the point of seeming embarrassing to me. Yet I still feel is my duty to let you know.

Odds are an interesting thing. One month ago, I would have bet all my spare money that Liverpool will win the Premiership. However, I wouldn't bet my house, nor my mother's health.
These things, however unlikely would be to lose them, are far too important to me. Please think like me when you're handling your friends, children and family.
 
My mother is in her late 50's, has smoked since her teens and works for a Home Help, so goes to elderly peoples' houses all day, attends to them, does their shopping, returns and moves onto an other elderly person.

Somehow, it only hit me today how scary that prospect is. I asked her if she was still carrying out her job the same as always foolishly assuming she'd say no they've made loads of changes.. she just paused and said 'yeah, mask and gloves' seemingly disappointed that I'd finally realised how dangerous her situation is, as well as the elderly people she's visiting.

As an above comment says, I think we're all starting to think specifically about our loved ones and how they fare.
I'm not a doctor but since the virus broke out in Japan I've been following precautions that are bothersome but if you do them, you cut your chances of getting it.
I know I'm lucky from the point of view that there are many cheap hygienic products here believe it or not. They have 100 yen - 1 dollar Oz, probably 50 p in the UK - stores here. Wet wipes, 3 or 3 pack soaps, etc. As most of us know by know, the virus is a lipid and its coating breaks up under soap even if you don't have alcohol.

I literally deal with hundreds of people in a small office each month for my job. I take my own soap wherever I go, not just to work, plus wet tissues, don't touch handles etc, wipe my individual small office door handle, clean my desk, w and then wash my hands thoroughly when I arrive at work. Tell your mum to take soap around in a plastic container, wet tissues if she has them. I don{t touch elevator buttons directly - carry something around to do it like tissues then throw them away or any small throwaway item like a toothpick.

It's key to clean your hands after you've been in contact with people. I can't do it after each class as I usually have no breaks between.

However, at a break time I follow the drill, on public transport I don't touch a thing and keep away from people. Your mother doesn't have to be in the direct line of people coughing and sneezing. Tell her all she has to do with the folks she helps is explain they all need to be careful and it's nothing personal. As soon as she leaves each home, sanitise hands. Don't bring it into your home - anybody. Tell your mum to have a shower when she arrives home if possible but if not, then wash those hands after wiping the door handles etc she has touched, cleaning her bag etc.
 
I think a seven year old child died of Covid in Brazil today. I'm struggling to validate the sources, and I do not yet know if this should be a worldwide concern or just a random exception, but I nevertheless must share my concerns/advice, as scary and crude as they may be:
- Children can kill their grandparents
- In the (admittedly very low) chance your child may suffer health cmplications...
- She will be alone most of the time. You cannot, like in other paedriatic diseases, accompany your child during internment
- They may get critically ill and die, and you're unlikely to be able to have a 'proper burial', maybe even parents will not be able to attend.

This post is so alarming to the point of seeming embarrassing to me. Yet I still feel is my duty to let you know.

Odds are an interesting thing. One month ago, I would have bet all my spare money that Liverpool will win the Premiership. However, I wouldn't bet my house, nor my mother's health.
These things, however unlikely would be to lose them, are far too important to me. Please think like me when you're handling your friends, children and family.

If it is true and the child had no underlying health condition it would be the first U9 to die. So thankfully the risks are much lower for the very young.
 
The thick twat...



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Who said that? I'm stating facts not predictions. On average 600,000 people die every year in the UK. A lot of people that die of covid19 would be among the deaths this year without covid19. There would be an overlap, even Patrick Valance admitted this.
This isn't the flu. Stop comparing it to the damn flu.
 
The global mortality rate is up to 4.35% now..

Even if there are double the number of cases... half people being asymptomatic .. its still well above 2%.. and that is with around 10K people in critical condition .. and hospitals just about reaching full capacity..

It's not getting better anytime soon, is it?

Double? I'd be surprised if there isn't ten times the infection that we've confirmed. People really shouldn't be too focused on the mortality rate. There are much bigger challenges to this virus than that.
 
I think that’s a bit too black & white. Eventually some form of normality has to come back to life or mentally & economically the country can’t cope at a certain point.

It’s just where that line is, I agree in the near future when safer to do so after everyone is being sensible with social distancing for now is to get those less at risk & not showing symptoms somehow back to normality.

This can’t go on indefinitely

It’s barely started, and it’s WAY too early to be talking about relaxing measure in the near future. Realistically we’re looking at months not weeks of controls, and yes the most vulnerable need to be looked after (in this case mentally vulnerable too), but there’s inevitably going to be hardship ahead that we have to deal with.
 
The global mortality rate is up to 4.35% now..

Even if there are double the number of cases... half people being asymptomatic .. its still well above 2%.. and that is with around 10K people in critical condition .. and hospitals just about reaching full capacity..

It's not getting better anytime soon, is it?

Sadly I believe that statistics shared by the chinese are most likely false, the true number of the mortality rate will emerge here in Europe.