@RedMist99 Hang in there, it's a horrible situation to be in. Hoping and praying for a good outcome
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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So are the british public too dumb to understand the advice or contrary to the widely held belief do they just not care about the NHS?
I've had to get rid of scores of people on Facebook. People laughing at the hysteria and saying it's just "advice", people saying they're more likely to get it at work so what's the issue, people refusing to be a hermit before they have to be.
No 10 putting the spin out on blaming the public but this is the result of their mixed messaging from day 1. Brexiteers have spent years saying don't trust the experts, don't listen to our european neighbours because Britain is great above all so it's no surprise to see this.
I've had to get rid of scores of people on Facebook. People laughing at the hysteria and saying it's just "advice", people saying they're more likely to get it at work so what's the issue, people refusing to be a hermit before they have to be.
No 10 putting the spin out on blaming the public but this is the result of their mixed messaging from day 1. Brexiteers have spent years saying don't trust the experts, don't listen to our european neighbours because Britain is great above all so it's no surprise to see this.
I think some people are simply too fecking dumb to understand any better. It's about percentages, the more one stays at home, the less chances the virus has to spread. A lot of people see things with a binary view, either the method works 100% or they just don't give a feck. Subtlety is lost on a lot of morons. I read that in France there are more joggers in confinement periods than ever before, like wtf ?
Always. Blame. The. Other.
people just need to use their common sense. I got out walking yesterday around saddleworth and it was beautiful, went down quiet routes and saw a handful of people. Dovestones was a different story!
I deleted FB a long time ago, I can only imagine its a cesspit with what is currently going on.
I think mixed messages from government is to blame and people generally being idiots and not taking any self responsibility. Only yesterday Boris was telling everyone that it is OK to go out and get fresh air because of the health benefits it provides. Whilst clearly he meant go to somewhere quiet, people are generally idiots so you have huge crowds congregating at beaches and the like.
I don't see how he doesn't initiate a full lockdown today after seeing the pictures and videos from yesterday. Too much time has already been wasted. Stay at home and maybe go for a brisk walk for half an hour round your street to stretch your legs and get fresh air. Doing so will save thousands and thousands of lives. It isn't fecking difficult.
Agree re Brexit.
I posted this on facebook adding the caption "not all fake news should be fought"
That image has already been treated, the original had a clear watermark of th site breakyourownnews.
Someone called me the other day saying let's go out to clubs for one last night of freedom, all that nonsense. His dad is elderly, has diabetes, and even had limb amputation because of it. I'm pretty sure he went out and is still around his dad.
I like to think I have a good feel for maths would never have appreciated the difference that R0 being just 0.1 higher could make.
We've only had one day since last time it was posted with 233 deaths but I updated it with 281 and added in more France data
| UK Dates | UK Deaths | Italy Dates | Italy Deaths | Spain Dates | Spain Deaths | France Dates | France Deaths |
March 8th | 3 | Feb 23rd | 3 | March 5th | 3 | March 2nd | 3 |
March 9th | 5 | Feb 24th | 7 | March 6th | 8 | March 3rd | 4 |
March 10th | 6 | Feb 25th | 11 | March 7th | 10 | March 4th | 4 |
March 11th | 8 | Feb 26th | 12 | March 8th | 17 | March 5th | 7 |
March 12th | 10 | Feb 27th | 17 | March 9th | 30 | March 6th | 9 |
March 13th | 11 | Feb 28th | 21 | March 10th | 36 | March 7th | 16 |
March 14th | 21 | Feb 29th | 29 | March 11th | 55 | March 8th | 19 |
March 15th | 35 | March 1st | 41 | March 12th | 86 | March 9th | 30 |
March 16th | 55 | March 2nd | 52 | March 13th | 133 | March 10th | 33 |
March 17th | 71 | March 3rd | 79 | March 14th | 196 | March 11th | 48 |
March 18th | 104 | March 4th | 107 | March 15th | 294 | March 12th | 61 |
March 19th | 144 | March 5th | 148 | March 16th | 342 | March 13th | 79 |
March 20th | 177 | March 6th | 197 | March 17th | 533 | March 14th | 91 |
March 21st | 233 | March 7th | 233 | March 18th | 638 | March 15th | 127 |
March 22nd | 281 | March 8th | 366 | March 19th | 830 | March 16th | 148 |
- | - | March 9th | 463 | March 20th | 1,093 | March 17th | 175 |
| - | - | March 10th | 631 | March 21st | 1,378 | March 18th | 244 |
| March 11th | 827 | March 22nd | 1,772 | March 19th | 372 | ||
| March 12th | 1,016 | March 20th | 450 | ||||
| March 13th | 1,266 | March 21st | 562 | ||||
| March 22nd | 674 |
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There is an incredible amount of dumb people out there in the world. I'm not saying one has to know all the scientific facts about this disease but at least educate one self a tiny bit. It's sheer ignorance. Those people in the pubs over the weekend are the fecking worst of the lot. People in Russia are laughing at others who put masks on to go out so it's not just British people. Your average joe is just dumb cnut really -- that's been my biggest revelation about life over past couple of years. I'd consider myself of having a very mediocre mind, so for me to be realising that the overwhelming majority are virtually brain dead is a bit scary. We're evolving into a dumber specie as we don't have to use our brain anymore to survive really imo.
Presumably Piers is reporting on this from the confines of his home?
Very true.
Thanks for the that. Appreciate it
Good because I suspect many of those that went out are the type that listen to people like Piers Morgan.
These fecking idiots
A second wave is getting underway in Hong Kong and Singapore, and both are starting to close things down again.
If I had the means and no family responsibilities I’d happily not leave the confines of my own home for the next year
From bbc:
It's bizarre -- it's like supposedly responsible adults are doing this on purpose.
It's bizarre -- it's like supposedly responsible adults are doing this on purpose.
Hearing internet rumours that the US army are deploying in Manhattan. Any truth in that?
The general public are like lemmings. They need to be led and told literally what to do. It’s about time the governments realized this very simple fact and stopped with the ambiguous, wishy washy messaging. Lock it down. Give them access cards to go to the shop in turns. Anyone else on the street? Arrest them, shoot them I don’t care.
Journalists are considered essential workers....not that the prick is an actual journalist mind.
So I've been wondering about what happens after a lockdown. Let's say, in an ideal world, that a lockdown is implemented in a perfect way and the health services manage to get casualties under control. How exactly do you then go about restarting society and allowing people to get infected in a manageable way?
I assume there are plans for this. Anyone know what they are?
I assume there are plans for this. Anyone know what they are?
This will happen in Europe as well and is the "desired" outcome. Get the virus under control, start loosening the restrictions, when cases are confirmed through intensive testing and tighten it up to get control again. The goal is to have the maximum amount of freedom in life(economical impact) while simultaneously not hit the capacity of the number of ICU beds(and especially ECMOs) which is one of the main reasons of the high CFR in Italy.
It's not though, previous generations were as dumb. The only difference is that now people have the technological tools to expose their stupidity.
That's very true. People talk about having freedoms taken away from them but I absolutely support in times like this. It's been proven time and again that people are irresponsible arsenals that can't be trusted with anything.
Idiocracy?
We're becoming pandas.
I think it was the perfect storm. We'd had probably the worst winter ever in terms of rain and storms, a lot of confined public spaces were closed, the first nice weather of the year appeared and people mistakenly estimated they'd be safe up a mountain in the fresh air.
Have a think about how stupid the average person is. Then realise that 50% of people are more stupid than that.............
The IQ of people across the globe is getting lower. It's a fact.
Also, hopefully this is a sign that we're falling behind Italy. Only one day of course, so the next couple will be vital. But it's a significant difference between us and them for yesterday.
Had to laugh doing my Asda shopping online, the only baked beans they have in stock are the Heinz 'no added sugar' variety. People don't seem to like the healthy option even in times of pandemic panic buying.
Until the vaccine is here I presume. Or we build herd immunity. If it's the latter, in all likelihood it'll be a shit show. Apparently Hong Kong are getting a spike in new cases after measures were relaxed. This thing isn't going away, unfortunately.
Yeah,I've noticed this.
Stocked up on quiche's.
Yeah those a good points. We can't help ourselves but to stick our fecking shorts on and hit the beach when it's sunny but still only 14 degrees outside.
Presumably there must be a release of people by age group perhaps? Location will come into it.
It just seems like a monstrously difficult situation to manage and implement.
No longer survival of the fittest. Lazy dumb people like to reproduce and spawn children with similar values toward society and their futures.
What a great movie. Watched it last night!