SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

I don't have the corona virus as I have none of the symptoms but I am so ill, I didn't think it was possible literally not be able to consume a drop of water without throwing it back up. Been this way since of the middle of last night. Hopefully just a 24 hour bug.

Feel like this presumably makes me a bit more high risk, so heightening the lockdown. Fortunate that I'm in a position to work from home!

It's not a direct symptom but I've anacdotedley heard that a loss of apetite can happen. My friend who's had a bad fever and cough for 2 weeks completely lost his appetite (he's been eating fruit for the last couple of days). Also this lady says similar after coming into contact with someone who tested positive
 
We had the same curfew until today, but it was increased to 5pm to 5 am, starting tomorrow.

They also said that, if people keep disobeying it, the curfew will be between 5pm to 1pm, so you would have only four hours per day available to go out.

Personally, I'm just sorry they did not implement it sooner.
Yes, if some people won't follow the rules, you have to make them follow the rules in situations like these.
 
Anyone know why the number of cases in Russia is so low in comparison to Europe? I understand this may be a very dumb question so apologies in advance.
 
A lot of business are helping out in terms of brewers now producing hand sanitizer and some manufacturers sharing their designs etc.

Is it really that simple to hand over and replicate? Amazing if so.
 
I'm too drunk to work it out but you've got daily and total deaths mixed up somewhere on that chart.

Seems to check out right, at least for UK and Italy, the other two at a glance look correct.

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Percentage wise it has slowed down in Italy even though it doesn't feel like it.
 
The UK govt have been reactive to the whole situation from the start. They need to be proactive now & enforce a lockdown before it spirals completely out of control. Simply asking people to avoid interaction isn’t going to work.
 
Lombardia now banning outside exercise completely and closing down vending machines, according to the BBC. I expect that’ll be brought in across the country before too long.
 
Lombardia now banning outside exercise completely and closing down vending machines, according to the BBC. I expect that’ll be brought in across the country before too long.
I was really hoping for more positive news from here but I guess we'll have to wait a little longer.
 
A lot of business are helping out in terms of brewers now producing hand sanitizer and some manufacturers sharing their designs etc.

Is it really that simple to hand over and replicate? Amazing if so.
Some things, like hand sanitizer will be easy for a distillery, and a craft gin distillery for example, would be able to shift to producing it more or less overnight.

The equipment like respirators and stuff - way more specialised and they have various failsafes, monitoring and feedback circuits. However, in an emergency, several firms could probably manufacture an older, less automated design.

The reason for talking to firms like RR aerospace and F1 teams is that their short run design/prototype/production line setups are very flexible and their technical staff are very highly skilled. They may be able to produce parts very quickly as long as they have exact specifications and there's a place to test them and turn them into the finished product.

There will be some parts though that are normally relatively longtime (like circuit boards or sensors from China?) that may take a lot of cloning/cobbling together if China aren't able to provide them.
 
Seems like a responsible thing for a professional virologist to do. 10/10.

Whilst on the subject of responsibility.....I know for a fact that two doctors were given the okay to return to work despite displaying some of the symptoms. Turned out they had the fecking thing!
 
Italy is introducing stricter measures from tomorrow.

I've said already social distancing is a waste of time. Italy started with that a month ago, it didnt work. We have been in almost complete lockdown for 2 weeks and it's made no difference. Total enforced quarantine seems to be the only way to stop it. A lot of countries are going to learn this the hard way.
 
The UK govt have been reactive to the whole situation from the start. They need to be proactive now & enforce a lockdown before it spirals completely out of control. Simply asking people to avoid interaction isn’t going to work.

It really isn't.
I nipped out before to get some mother's Day cards and gifts (which were all sold out, god knows why people are panic buying gifts) and the amount of people I saw socialising in supermarkets parks and even seen people in pub beer gardens which were clearly still open just with the curtains shut was very alarming.
 
Sorry for my complete ignorance:

At the writing class I went to last week, a lady sat next to me & halfway through the class, she mentioned that she'd just returned from India after four weeks. Should I be worried about my health? Or hers even?

That could depend on a lot of factors, Steve. For instance, did she take a direct flight from India or was there a stopover in Italy or Spain?
 
He is a doctor, not sure about his specialty.

I will say, as another doctor myself and one with some previous background in Public Health and Infectious diseases (but am NOT a public health or ID physician) that simply being a doctor does not mean you're an expert on this stuff. The people I'd really listen to in these situations are epidemiologists or people who work specifically in outbreak situations. Then Public health doctors/ nurses. Then ID doctors. Then regular doctors/nurses. Then regular people. Then celebrities. Then probably politicians.

Neil Ferguson for example, the professor who wrote the excellent paper credited with changing the UK and USA's approach, is actually a mathematician and epidemiologist for instance.

This is not to slight Arruda, myself or any other doctors on here or in real life. Just a reflection that being a doctor and specialising in, for instance paediatrics or dermatology, or still being in training, does not make you an expert in outbreak control and what strategy to take when facing a problem of this magnitude.

Having said that, his posts are always informative and clearly well researched and thought out. And (I believe) in his second language no less.
I think that Neil Ferguson guy was one of the first to realise that Covid 19 was being transmitted from human to human. Early sentiments were that the infected were infected by animals but he called BS on that and said it's unrealistic for that many people to be infected by animals, it was most likely human-to-human transmission.

Clever fella, it seems.
 
The US cases are jumping up by something like 5,000 a day. They could easily end up with more than China if they carry on at their current rate.
 
Ireland have reported less cases today to yesterday despite a continued level of testing so from what my government are saying social distancing is working.
 
Italy is introducing stricter measures from tomorrow.

I've said already social distancing is a waste of time. Italy started with that a month ago, it didnt work. We have been in almost complete lockdown for 2 weeks and it's made no difference. Total enforced quarantine seems to be the only way to stop it. A lot of countries are going to learn this the hard way.

Until a vaccine is found?
 
That could depend on a lot of factors, Steve. For instance, did she take a direct flight from India or was there a stopover in Italy or Spain?
I don't know,mate, she was a complete stranger to me (this was the first time I'd attended the class. Thankfully, this Friday's was cancelled).
 
I don't know,mate, she was a complete stranger to me (this was the first time I'd attended the class. Thankfully, this Friday's was cancelled).

I think you are going to twist yourself in knots worrying about it mate. Reading this thread too much will not help you there either.

Odds are very favourable at the moment that you are both fine, and there's nothing you can do now anyway, so find something else to occupy your mind is the best thing for you.
 
The most serious thing I had was that my eyes were nearly closed at one point. But that doesn't sound like coronavirus.
 
Just read about a holocaust survivor dying from Covid19. Fecking hell man, imagine surviving the holocaust and then dying from a virus never seen before. Talk about being unlucky.
 
The figure of 'Positive Cases' - how is this being tracked or used as a metric?

Most people are self isolating and not getting tests therefore how does one use that as a reliable way of quantifying said data.
 
Anyone know why the number of cases in Russia is so low in comparison to Europe? I understand this may be a very dumb question so apologies in advance.

It has shot up these past two days to 356 and one death. I guess they have not been testing as much as other countries have been doing. Testing is the only way to find out and forced quarantine to control it.
 
Can someone give me a quick run down on the lock down in Italy? Last I read was that most people were still going to work if not able to work from home, and social gatherings and whatnot banned.
 
It has shot up these past two days to 356 and one death. I guess they have not been testing as much as other countries have been doing. Testing is the only way to find out and forced quarantine to control it.
As others have said and as I feared I think they may be telling porkies unfortunately.
 
The neighbour in the adjacent apartment is coughing her arse off. I hope this thing doesn't mutate and start going through the walls.