Younger people got infected from travelling. So their death rate will increase a bit in couple of weeks.
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/478220a4c454480e823b17327b2bf1d4
Can see demographics here.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/478220a4c454480e823b17327b2bf1d4
Can see demographics here.
And I suppose they don't wanna make OTT announcements which will make people break the needed confinement measures.
A malaria drug combined with an antibiotic - would be really encouraging news if its repeatable in a bigger group.
I guess we'll be hearing a lot more about possible drugs and combinations over the next month. Got to stay healthy and keep hoping.
The drugs are not new at all. Azithromycin is an antibiotic for all kinds of infections (including STDs!) and Hydroxychloroquine is used for malaria treatment and some autoimmune conditions like Lupus and Rheumatoid arthritis as well.
So if they do work, it would be incredible. We wouldn't need to still develop it, we wouldn't need to hope the company that develops it allows other companies to produce it. It would already be out there.
The study is not exactly.....watertight but let's hope follow up studies also show a positive effect, both for reducing viral loads (and therefore potentially reducing how long someone can infect others) and also as a treatment.
I’m up for shutting down right now too. Pretty exposed at work and more and more people seem to be feeling that way in my anecdotal experience. Still plenty that are ignoring it and they’re the ones making keeping things open impossible.
For sure. Its taken months for (some!) people in the West to start following these methods, probably wouldn't take much to get everyone out again.
Either way, I hope it works!
Of course, that's what I guessed/hoped so it could definitely be a good news!
And still only 3 deaths. We're doing well.
That (⬆) is what Italy was doing?
My understanding is the low German mortality rate is simply statistics.
They have lots of testing kits so test more so get a large number of infected cases (like everywhere else).
But, they are testing lots of young people (unlike most other countries) who are far less likely to die from it.
Hence, mortality rate appears much lower than other countries. (More ventilators MAY help too but I don't think would explain different levels in itself).
(*Based on what I've read, media can't be guaranteed. Saw an article about it earlier in the FT. It was wrapped around my bag of chips)
Not only that. The six who dropped out had one death.
Looks like Dybala tested positive today. Wasn't he tested last week or the week before with entire Juventus squad?
Good info, especially the bit towards the end where he says it will come back again later in the year when the weather gets cool and infect anyone who wasn't infected this time. So barring a vaccine, we will probably have to go through this again at some point.
Thats the state of the roads in Spain for a weekend get always. For the rest of people sorry is in english. But basically. several kilometres of feckING TRAFFIC JAM
https://www.20minutos.es/noticia/2824495/0/retenciones-trafico-inicio-fin-de-semana/
Spain is doomed. Has the worst projection curve in the world. in 4 days will reach close to 1000 deaths per day and our peak is foreseen for 15-21 april. But seeing all this morons, who know if there will be a controlled peak or just a full blown one. If it is controlled peak, we will reach it with 3000 deaths a day at least with more than +50.000 at the peak. going down the peak, another 50.000. And then more...
Looking pretty ugly. My dad is very healthy, no pathologist, but they are rejecting in some hospitals ALREADY the +65. He is 7e, so if he gets it he is dead most likely. He is responsible, stocked for 3 months food and being quite attentive in his disinfection, and cleaning recommendations, but its never 100% perfect. Today I just scared him a bit more, and i cried a little because there are morons that still going out even risking to being fined. As a country we have what we deserve, but as individuals, most likely the stupid ones will survive
I'm currently working from home, my wife has had a cough for a few days so we are self isolating so it's 14 days at home for us.
I don't want to go back to office once it's done, so I'm going to work my arse off from home this next few weeks to prove I don't need to be in the office to work during this issue.
If I have to go back I'm going to make it clear I don't want to. I also feel so sorry for the supermarket workers, low wage and yet they are exposed to so many people a day, my young teenage daughter wanted to grab one of the jobs Tesco are offering but I wouldn't let her.
If you could ride this out in any country, which would you choose?
I think NZ is looking pretty good. Very easy to control borders and decent healthcare. Low population compared to land mass.
Oh thats interesting. That wasn't exactly how they expalined it in the press conference. Thats a good link. You should put that in the other thread
Hong Kong or Singapore. Small, rich and geared up.
Where is Keifer Sutherland?
Greenland, or I wouldn't mind Norway to bunker down in.
Singapore looks the best place to ride this out.
It's fecking crazy isn't it? I saw in el pais that some hospitals are basically choosing on life expectancy now - that's literally what it said but I don't know if it meant expectacy to survive or potential years left.
Sounds like the party has been shut (gated urbanizacion, so security probably tried) but whether they've just gone inside I don't know. Weather's crappy as well, which makes it even more mental.
We're gonna have to do a full Wuhan style lockdown, GC and PL enforcing it. Except, where I am there are not enough police, because of the drugs. Yay.
The link is from 2016
How to understand the timing behind self isolation and house isolation, and why you may need to isolate for more than 14 days under current UK guidance:
https://assets.publishing.service.g...file/874011/Stay_at_home_guidance_diagram.pdf
https://assets.publishing.service.g...file/874011/Stay_at_home_guidance_diagram.pdf
Still only early doors. Fingers crossed....
Designated Survivor
Good to know.
In the bunker.
The president of the RKI was actually asked who they count as (corona related) death cases just yesterday and his answer was that they count anyone who was tested positive for Corona.
St Helena
Just thank feck kids don't seem to be involved in this.
Lorenzo Sanz, former Real Madrid president(1995-2000) died today for the virus
Youngest UK victim now 41.
underlying health conditions? or that's not important
Just got 10 pints of ale/cider from the local for £15. Silver lining.
There are medicine that does help though. The Chinese used the Japanese flu vaccine and it did help people in China but this for after they got infected. What is needed is a vaccine that would stop infecting people. In the UK treatment for HIV also helped the patients. The Chinese are trying to mass produce the Japanese flu vaccine but I think the copyright issue and this has not been approved by the Japanese government to use on Covid patients could be the delay.
WHO says 4 drugs have been fast tracked and if all goes well they could be ready for production by end of April. Avigan which has been used in China is also effective in the treatment and so they are hoping they could finalise the clinical trials and get it approved into production. The Americans have one too which can be used on compassionate grounds in just to save a life and also the Israelis have also some that can be used to safe lives. Whether it will save lives or not is not sure. But they are allowed to use it in that case.
WHO says 4 drugs have been fast tracked and if all goes well they could be ready for production by end of April. Avigan which has been used in China is also effective in the treatment and so they are hoping they could finalise the clinical trials and get it approved into production. The Americans have one too which can be used on compassionate grounds in just to save a life and also the Israelis have also some that can be used to safe lives. Whether it will save lives or not is not sure. But they are allowed to use it in that case.
Can you fecking imagine?! And they usually would be. Swine flu was as dangerous to the very young as it was to the very old.