Ah that’s good then. Hopefully it stays like that.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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They need to at least enforce retail to limit people allowed in stores. We drove passed a retail park earlier and it was rammed with people.
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A deep global recession is a given.
Its different to a market caused recession so I'm optimistic of a quick bounce back for industries like retail and leisure.
Is there any new evidence or new reports about smokers beeing more affected by Covid-19?
Its not going to be a depression. People have money and the markets are driven by different stimulus. Its not going to be pretty but we've got a better chance of a quicker recovery and avoidance of depression.
Theres also alot of industry that will be trucking on through this disaster.
Is there any new evidence or new reports about smokers beeing more affected by Covid-19?
Do we need evidence?
Smoking is bad during normal times.
I'm wondering what happens to all the weed dispensaries in California and other states where it's legal. Home delivery perhaps!
Covid-19: disaster declared in New York as fears grow over lack of ventilators
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/21/coronavirus-new-york-disaster-ventilators
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/21/coronavirus-new-york-disaster-ventilators
It's a vicious circle that comes with panic buyers. Instead of spending 30 mins quickly in and out. I've just spent two hours exposing myself to all these unwashed coughers in multiple shops and only got a just a third of the food and the big supermarket near me was the most barren. I don't think they've restocked pasta or flour all week and today every bit of bread and milk all gone, pretty much all tinned stuff gone, fecking bananas all gone. I thought Saturday morning I might get something from there and would've thought people have filled their cupboards and freezers by now, many of these people have huge fat reserves as well.
When I lived in San Francisco some years back, they were bicycle couriers who would deliver to your door.
Corner shops are the easiest to shop at now, pay a bit more, but they normally have most things you need day by day.
The Japanese are very obedient though when it comes to rules and laws. Probably one of the best places for control measures to actually be followed.
*Rant incoming*jojojo said:
It's the Great Lie (similar to Wilfred Owen's 'old Lie'), and it makes me angry.
They've already refashioned WWI as the war of poetry, of poppies, and of quiet regret; sheepish, grudging regret, far too late in the day, over the waste of thousands of lives and the very flower of our youth. In reality, those troops were treated as mere materiel in a conflict which could've been ended within its first year. A wreath and a Last Post, however poignant, can't cover up or drown out the bodies and voices of the silent dead, no matter how politicians past and present try.
And now we have the World War II Show wheeled out, as it always is in times of self-inflicted crisis or the perennial vainglory which infects the nation. Now, there's plenty for our citizens to be proud of regarding that War; however, I have to ask: is history all Britain has to boast of? And do our leaders believe this to be so? While we're encouraged to wrap ourselves in the flag, we are distracted from claiming the social justice and equality that should be ours; while we fondly remember Dunkirk, from the rose-tinted safety of a later day, we forget that we've all been fighting the Battles of Towton and Orgreave...for centuries. No matter what they try to tell us - just as a comforting bedtime story soothes restless children - British history, for the common folk, isn't a tale of victory like Agincourt or Trafalgar - instead it's an ongoing defeat, a history of violence perpetuated by masters against servants.
Political Correctness at its worse. It’s ok to criticise Trump, Borris Johnson etc but i see very few people criticising the government that brought the world to its knees and fecked everything up.
Let’s not forget this virus has been going around since at least NOVEMBER and the Chinese government spent a month or two covering it up and putting people that were talking about it into jail.
If they had acted like any normal government, things would not be as bad as this.
imagine the outrage and memes if the world got fecked because some redneck in the USA ate something like a rattlesnake and a virus started in Kentucky.
And Instead of acting to stop it and warn the world Trump silenced and put the Dr’s that realised there was a new virus in prison and denied there was such a virus. And basically allowed the the thing to spread for 2 month across the world, can you imagine the hate he’d be getting?
I really don’t understand why we are more focused on criticising our own relatively transparent governments. When it’s the communist China’s lies and suppression on the truth that is responsible for this.
And when this settles down. Do we wait another 10, 20 years until the next virus that comes from China? SARS was only 20 years ago. More deadly then coronavirus but mutated to become less infectious so it killed itself.. that’s the only reason it didn’t wipe out half the world.
Let’s not forget this virus has been going around since at least NOVEMBER and the Chinese government spent a month or two covering it up and putting people that were talking about it into jail.
If they had acted like any normal government, things would not be as bad as this.
imagine the outrage and memes if the world got fecked because some redneck in the USA ate something like a rattlesnake and a virus started in Kentucky.
And Instead of acting to stop it and warn the world Trump silenced and put the Dr’s that realised there was a new virus in prison and denied there was such a virus. And basically allowed the the thing to spread for 2 month across the world, can you imagine the hate he’d be getting?
I really don’t understand why we are more focused on criticising our own relatively transparent governments. When it’s the communist China’s lies and suppression on the truth that is responsible for this.
And when this settles down. Do we wait another 10, 20 years until the next virus that comes from China? SARS was only 20 years ago. More deadly then coronavirus but mutated to become less infectious so it killed itself.. that’s the only reason it didn’t wipe out half the world.
Because shouting at China doesn't help the situation now. Judging by what I've read there's still some time to slow this all down and buy time, but the UK government is not doing it.
Shopping centres busy today.
Where?
Seriously? Where?
You’re right about the “now”. But I just hope when it settles down people and the world’s governments remember that if China had acted in November or even December things would have been much different.
And we need to talk about why these types of viruses come from there. We all know why. Measures and agreements need to be put in place amongst all the world’s countries where we can quarantine China whenever there’s a suspicion of a new virus outbreak.
Just been to my local shop, there is just as much foot and road traffic as usual, probably a bit more in fact. People just seem to be going about their usual routines for now.
Maybe people getting exercise. Walking about etc.
I’m just being realistic. Unfortunately people will die and there will be people who don’t listen to the government guidance. Even yesterday pubs were closing so there were a lots of people seeing it as an opportunity to have one last pint. We will end up following Europe once the death rate increases 10 fold with tighter measures on movement without good reason.
The governments slow pace to get these measures in place will have made it spread far worse than if they had implemented it all last Sunday. Why say schools won’t close then two days later actually do it? Why allow restaurants and pubs to be open for another week only to close it all down anyway, then give people one last chance?
Here's the article i read: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/20/new-york-center-us-coronavirus
Had to queue for a half hour here in Dublin to get into a big supermarket, as like Italy they're only letting a certain amount of people in now. They sanitized our hands and put plastic gloves on us before we went in. So fecking weird
I swear though once I was in there the people who gave the least shit about distancing were old people. Completely in our faces to get their stuff.
I swear though once I was in there the people who gave the least shit about distancing were old people. Completely in our faces to get their stuff.
Worth pointing out that Tomas Pueyo is just a Silicon Valley entrepreneur. Not saying he doesn’t make any valid points, but he has absolutely no background or credentials in this field. He obviously knows how to present himself, which has seen him become one of the leading rent-a-mouths for this subject in parts of the media.
Looks like a moron. Sounds like a moron. Chances are -- he is an absolute moron.
Merry Hill, Birmingham.
People shopping in the retails stores,mothers day shoppers about. Loads of teens roaming. Most stores are still open like all the phone shops,GAME & fragrance stores. Huge JD is open and full.Not as busy as a usual Saturday but busiest it’s been all week.
I wasn’t being 100% serious.
Strict measurements in Austria seem to work. We keep the new cases pretty much at linear not exponential level.
Quitting smoking is not only a matter of wanting it.
I quit last year. I would have a better choice of winning the lottery than quitting in these circumstances.
What? Following Italy is the worst idea here. They went into lockdown way too late sadly.
Gotta look your best when you’re hocking up a lung
NYC is being hit or going to be hit hard just because of how close people are to each other literally. Absolutely stay out of NYC.
A bit harsh. The point he’s making I think is that maybe we need to reconsider how we ordinarily go about our business in winter, and what reasonable steps we can take to protect the elderly.
I checked his timeline and couldn’t see anything recent to suggest he thinks we are overreacting and shouldn’t be taking these measures.