SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

He's been brought up on war movies and anniversary bunting.

Take a look at any classic British war movies of the 40s/50s - and you'll see the Spitfire pilots in the pub after a tour of duty. The plucky bombed out citizens having a singalong in the boozer before heading back down to the air raid shelter.

Like Brexit it appeals to a nostalgia about a time they didn't live but remember fondly as the stuff of childhood dreams of heroism and stoic resilience. The war rhetoric used by some of the politicians makes them want to join in a rousing chorus of "We'll meet again" - it would be comical if it wasn't so dangerous.


I hate 'We'll Meet Again' with a passion. Maybe we should all be singing 'Vindaloo' instead.
 
I’ve seen loads of people say Boris has done an amazing job. Has he? Ok he’s apparently helped a load of businesses. Is that amazing? He’s made sure a massive amount of people actually have a job and don’t go homeless, but that’s not what you’d expect at the bare minimum?

Bingo.

well done for doing your fecking job
 
I’ve seen loads of people say Boris has done an amazing job. Has he? Ok he’s apparently helped a load of businesses. Is that amazing? He’s made sure a massive amount of people actually have a job and don’t go homeless, but that’s not what you’d expect at the bare minimum?

People will change their tune in two weeks when the death numbers sky rocket. People are failing to grasp there's a lag to the reporting and that his useless inaction has cost lives.
 
But is it his fault or the two scientists?

I was a bit loathed to post this, I disagree with ANY sort of anonymous briefing from government in a criss such as this, good or bad, it should all be on record so everyone is accountable.

However, wickham at buzzfeed has broke some important stories recently and this may be another.
 
Austria is probably worth a mention. Their death rate is even lower than Germany's (0.23%) and they had fewer new infections yesterday than the day before (although that is not a trend yet and could just be a conincidence). They were very quick to enforce drastic measures. Chancellor Kurz is hoping to slowly get back to normal after Easter.
 
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They shut the doors and only allow a reasonable number of people in the shop at any one time. When a few leave, they let a few more in.

Hmmm can't see that working here. Plus people would just been hanging about in large groups outside. I'm just hoping the panic buyers and hoarders have what they need soon and leave the rest of us to shop normally.
 
I hate 'We'll Meet Again' with a passion. Maybe we should all be singing 'Vindaloo' instead.
Well yes, I need to know what era to pick songs from so I don't get it wrong. It can't possibly be Thatcher's and Blair is even more hated than she is nowadays, amongst the left at any rate. Maybe the 60s? Summer of love stuff. Good times, apart from the racism and sexism and that.
 
Shopping centres/Malls in the UK are still open. I have skin in the game as an operator of a food unit but from a virus transmission point of view I am not impressed either.

Demand/footfall is massively reduced but still how many thousands will be at the trafford centre today? Staff and customers spreading transmitting. Food courts are just removing the seating area and acting as normal with just takeouts.
 
When are gas and electric bills going to be frozen, if everyone is at home they will be making a killing and that annoys me a lot.
In Portugal they banned cutting of essential services. So I guess most skint people will simply not pay.
 
Just had the news one of my mates has lost a loved one and another has a friend in their late 20s on oxygen. Starting to feel a bit more real
 
I'm in Meath. From Dublin and work in blanch.

I'm so worried as they are attached to us and Boris hasn't given any clear direction.

Clusterfeck

Yea. I am worried that we get this contained here and the UK is a cesspit with people infected, which will only make it worse again in ireland.
 
Working today and the majority of the people out seem to be pensioners just nonchantly walking about
 
When are gas and electric bills going to be frozen, if everyone is at home they will be making a killing and that annoys me a lot.

Got a letter from SSE Airtricity the other day saying gas prices are being reduced by 18.7% from April.
 
Shopping centres/Malls in the UK are still open. I have skin in the game as an operator of a food unit but from a virus transmission point of view I am not impressed either.

Demand/footfall is massively reduced but still how many thousands will be at the trafford centre today? Staff and customers spreading transmitting. Food courts are just removing the seating area and acting as normal with just takeouts.

Problem we have in our shopping centre is we have a Boots pharmacy, Sainsbury’s, 2 pound shop and a BnM. I assume once all shops have to close, the shops I mentioned won’t as they’re essential. Curious how they handle stuff like this, what happens if a shopping centre has just 1 of those shops, so they open it for that one?
 
Hmmm can't see that working here. Plus people would just been hanging about in large groups outside. I'm just hoping the panic buyers and hoarders have what they need soon and leave the rest of us to shop normally.

It's the same in Ireland now. You queue up outside 2m apart and they only let a certain number in. They hand out plastic gloves when you get your trolley in some places.

The panic has died down here now and the shelves are mostly full. I think the only thing we couldn't get today was flour which was annoying as we were hoping to get some baking done during the week to keep us all entertained.
 
Holiday homes in Anglesey are all full , People coming from all over the country , it really pisses me off . People in the UK are arrogant, self centred cnuts .
People in this country don't like being told what to do.
 
I was reading an article on how bad it could get in New York. I've been mainly concentrating on the UK and Europe in all of this, so America was a bit of a blind spot (obviously i knew some of what was happening out there as it's pretty hard to avoid). But after reading that, it sounds like things could be pretty horrific out there. There's a feeling that they have left it way too late in the City, and it could catch up with them in the next week or two.

Not sure how true all this is.
 
I'm hoping the government clear up their at risk groups isolation message from earlier in the week.

Just said it'll be from weekend. My work are going strictly off of government instruction, and so far they aren't crystal clear on at risk groups, beside strongly advising social distancing rather than just advising.
 
I was reading an article on how bad it could get in New York. I've been mainly concentrating on the UK and Europe in all of this, so America was a bit of a blind spot (obviously i knew some of what was happening out there as it's pretty hard to avoid). But after reading that, it sounds like things could be pretty horrific out there. There's a feeling that they have left it way too late in the City, and it could catch up with them in the next week or two.

Not sure how true all this is.

Just read an article this morning about it. New york is fecked. They will soon reach their limit and they don't have enough supply and materials
 
He's been brought up on war movies and anniversary bunting.

Take a look at any classic British war movies of the 40s/50s - and you'll see the Spitfire pilots in the pub after a tour of duty. The plucky bombed out citizens having a singalong in the boozer before heading back down to the air raid shelter.

Like Brexit it appeals to a nostalgia about a time they didn't live but remember fondly as the stuff of childhood dreams of heroism and stoic resilience. The war rhetoric used by some of the politicians makes them want to join in a rousing chorus of "We'll meet again" - it would be comical if it wasn't so dangerous.
This is all absolutely true.

I wonder though whether it would have died a natural death decades ago, had it not been for the constant background threat of terrorist atrocities since about 1970; Islamic jihadists starting up just after Irish Republican violence had ceased. People born into this era don't know any different, but for those who lived through the war or grew up in the quarter century of peace following it, that nostalgic wartime spirit of Keep Calm And Carry On was thought of as comforting and sustaining.

Some people regrettably fail to understand the obvious differences between a terrorist threat and a pandemic, and let their ignorance be exploited by unscrupulous politicians.
 
Just read an article this morning about it. New york is fecked. They will soon reach their limit and they don't have enough supply and materials


Got a linky for that? I told a friend of mine, ten days ago, stay the feck out of NYC. She is in NH and doing just fine there ATM.
 
Spain’s death toll surpasses 1,300 people. The latest death toll is an increase from 1,002 on Friday, according to the country’s health ministry. The number of registered cases in the country rose to 24,926 on Saturday from 19,980 in the previous tally announced on Friday
 
Problem we have in our shopping centre is we have a Boots pharmacy, Sainsbury’s, 2 pound shop and a BnM. I assume once all shops have to close, the shops I mentioned won’t as they’re essential. Curious how they handle stuff like this, what happens if a shopping centre has just 1 of those shops, so they open it for that one?

It seems crazy. food courts are simply removing seating but expect all units to stay open and trade as 'take outs'. This lockdown should have included all non essential shops, I understood the initial drip feed approach but now number are soaring we need a strict lockdown to at least get some data on it's effectiveness and to make everyone aware of the seriousness of the issue.

I am still optimistic that if proper isolation was done we could get the worst out of the way in a 4-6 week period as China did, but only if we now act.
 
Shopping centres/Malls in the UK are still open. I have skin in the game as an operator of a food unit but from a virus transmission point of view I am not impressed either.

Demand/footfall is massively reduced but still how many thousands will be at the trafford centre today? Staff and customers spreading transmitting. Food courts are just removing the seating area and acting as normal with just takeouts.
They shut the shopping centres very abruptly here, unless there was a supermarket in there too - but all the shops in the mall that weren't grocery shops had to close straight away.
 
I bet a lot of people will give up smoking now. What about all those twats who vape? That's a lot of young people intentionally fecking up their lungs.
 
It seems crazy. food courts are simply removing seating but expect all units to stay open and trade as 'take outs'. This lockdown should have included all non essential shops, I understood the initial drip feed approach but now number are soaring we need a strict lockdown to at least get some data on it's effectiveness and to make everyone aware of the seriousness of the issue.

I am still optimistic that if proper isolation was done we could get the worst out of the way in a 4-6 week period as China did, but only if we now act.

Completely agree, it seems insane to me, and also blatantly obvious that all non-essential retail shops need to be trading online only.
 
Got a linky for that? I told a friend of mine, ten days ago, stay the feck out of NYC. She is in NH and doing just fine there ATM.

It was in a German newspaper, but seems they have pulled away the paragraph about NY. They were citing the NY times, but the articles are behind a paywall.
 
I bet a lot of people will give up smoking now. What about all those twats who vape? That's a lot of young people intentionally fecking up their lungs.

Do you not think it will increase? I would imagine those who already do smoke will perhaps smoke more out of boredom as everything’s shut.

@Penna vapes.
 
I bet a lot of people will give up smoking now. What about all those twats who vape? That's a lot of young people intentionally fecking up their lungs.

Honestly, so many people don't give a feck about this sort of thing that's what worries me the most.

I went to Tesco to buy some stuff yesterday, a few hours after pubs were announced to be closing, and I saw some guy sitting outside on a bench, drinking booze clearly bought from in-store and using a trolley as his table.