SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Has anyone got any information about UK government policy in respect of how the homeless population is being protected?

Before this whole health crisis erupted, it was clear that homelessness was a major issue, not least because of crippling austerity measures.

Is this most vulnerable section of the population being forgotten about once more?

I ask genuinely because have seen barely any coverage on the matter.

Get a life.
 
I would have thought we should definitely see a huge increase in numbers as we're ramping up testing quite a bit. We'll supposedly be hiiting 10-12k tests daily in the coming days, which is quite a lot for a country of our size. De Gascun also said that could hopefully subsequently increase further to 15k a day. All of which means a dramatic spike in cases is to be expected. Especially as it will be another 5 or so days before we see the impact of the measures we've already taken on the stats.

The more telling figures will be the number of cases that make it to ICU (currently just over 2%) and the mortality rate, I think.

For example, we're about 14 days behind Italy in terms of that graph you posted. Yet crucially Italy had approx. 100 deaths at that point, we've had three. Even once you adjust for population sizes, that's a key difference.

Early days but the curve is definitely flatter for Ireland too.

Let's hope the measures the government have introduced are working and it stays that way.
 
Has anyone got any information about UK government policy in respect of how the homeless population is being protected?

Before this whole health crisis erupted, it was clear that homelessness was a major issue, not least because of crippling austerity measures.

Is this most vulnerable section of the population being forgotten about once more?

I ask genuinely because have seen barely any coverage on the matter.

So I’m supposed to believe a guy named “feed me” doesn’t have vested interests here?
 
Has anyone got any information about UK government policy in respect of how the homeless population is being protected?

Before this whole health crisis erupted, it was clear that homelessness was a major issue, not least because of crippling austerity measures.

Is this most vulnerable section of the population being forgotten about once more?

I ask genuinely because have seen barely any coverage on the matter.


Like those with zero hours contracts, its being ignored by the government.

At this point, councils should take one closed school or other asset and put there local homeless into them as temporary indoor accommodation.They could still self isolate in a large facility.

If not for humanitarian reasons, then because they will inevitably start infecting people themsleves.
 
Currently the UK case trendline is below Italy. Thats a fact and better to remember that when people are getting hyped up by political nonsense. I dont know enough about respective demographics and health facilities to talk about death rates.

Italy went into lockdown at 9000 cases, so following that the UK should do the same by the middle of next week.

To get a decent idea of the comparison you'd want to look at number of cases, amount of testing, percentage of cases that end up in ICU and the death rate. Just looking at the number of cases doesn't tell you much on its own.
 
Given the state Italy's in with this thing, isn't that the strongest argument for locking down asap?

I don't understand the reasoning behind waiting.

You would think so but that is the point at which a lot of countries have initiated lockdowns, so there must be something to it.

Remember the aim is not to eradicate the virus or even flatten the curve as much as possible. The aim is to flatten it to just under healthcare capacity.
 
Not very well.

Thanks.

My principal concern is those homeless people who for one reason or another don’t have access to shelter, which in turn makes self isolating pretty bloody tough.

I see Neville and Giggs are making their hotel available for NHS staff which is laudable but wish more would look at making such spaces available for the homeless too.
 
My grandad didn't experience the blitz, he was in North Africa fighting Rommel, and then through Italy and into Germany.

And if he were still alive, he'd happily punch that ukip turd square in the face for this crap.
My dad too - 8th Army, North Africa and Italy. He'd have a similar response, although he was a peaceful man. :)
 
My dad too - 8th Army, North Africa and Italy. He'd have a similar response, although he was a peaceful man. :)

Excellent stuff.

I hate people who claim to speak on behalf of the heroes who were actually in the thick of it during the war.

Those who lived through it are some of the most liberal, tolerant and balanced

I agree also that they have no time for the nonsense that prat is going on about on Twitter
 


feck me, that’s absolutely diabolical.

I’ve had a meltdown this morning and left my (in laws) family WhatsApp group because they were chuntering on about “how good a job Boris is doing”

To be honest, I’ve been waiting for an excuse for years
 
You would think so but that is the point at which a lot of countries have initiated lockdowns, so there must be something to it.

Remember the aim is not to eradicate the virus or even flatten the curve as much as possible. The aim is to flatten it to just under healthcare capacity.

There must be something in it?

Everyone's winging it with this so if other countries are struggling than surely you have to be more agressive than them in order to flatten the curve.

If you find it's too restrictive then you have the option of easing things slightly and seeing how it goes for two weeks which would be more sensible imo.
 
Complete bans on going out now in certain German cities as well as Bavaria. Not everyone is supporting it and German media's response has been mixed. Numerous virologists have come out against it saying it is not justified, has little effect and could lead to a social catastrophe. Notable politicians from Social Democrats and Greens have criticised it and in Berlin the Left Party has blocked a similar proposal. The Federal Government wants to wait until Sunday before making a decision for the whole country.

I think I'll go mad if I'm not allowed out tbh. Need to go for a bike ride or a run every day both for fitness and my own sanity.

Again though I think this is because people are still hanging out in groups.

How are they organising supermarket visits in other countries? That's genuinely worrying me about the UK now both from the perspective of having to be around larger amounts of people and also of not being able to get anything.
 
feck me, that’s absolutely diabolical.

I’ve had a meltdown this morning and left my (in laws) family WhatsApp group because they were chuntering on about “how good a job Boris is doing”

To be honest, I’ve been waiting for an excuse for years

Nobody really wants to be in their in laws whatsapp group do they?

I'm barely tolerating my own family's one :lol:
 
My dad too - 8th Army, North Africa and Italy. He'd have a similar response, although he was a peaceful man. :)

Yup, that's the thing, and this goes for friends who went to Iraq too.

People who've actually seen war close up, in general don't like it when war is glorified.
 
I reckon its reaching a point in the UK where it's about saving yourself and those around you. I've advised many other friends and colleagues to do the same. The quicker we act, imo, the less damage.
 
Nobody really wants to be in their in laws whatsapp group do they?

I'm barely tolerating my own family's one :lol:

So true.

The difference with my family is that I can openly call them out on their shit whereas I need to be more passive aggressive in voicing my displeasure with the in laws

tbh, I like my in laws but we are awkward bedfellows in many ways - I come from a working class background and a family with liberal, socialist values, whereas they are very wealthy with a strong conservative leaning and a to hell with everyone else sort of attitude
 
When are gas and electric bills going to be frozen, if everyone is at home they will be making a killing and that annoys me a lot.
 
Worth remembering that this guy is 70.

That is, he was born 5 years after the war ended and 9 years after the blitz.

The 'we' is very rhetorical.

My grandad didn't experience the blitz, he was in North Africa fighting Rommel, and then through Italy and into Germany.

And if he were still alive, he'd happily punch that ukip turd square in the face for this crap.
He's been brought up on war movies and anniversary bunting.

Take a look at any classic British war movies of the 40s/50s - and you'll see the Spitfire pilots in the pub after a tour of duty. The plucky bombed out citizens having a singalong in the boozer before heading back down to the air raid shelter.

Like Brexit it appeals to a nostalgia about a time they didn't live but remember fondly as the stuff of childhood dreams of heroism and stoic resilience. The war rhetoric used by some of the politicians makes them want to join in a rousing chorus of "We'll meet again" - it would be comical if it wasn't so dangerous.
 
When are gas and electric bills going to be frozen, if everyone is at home they will be making a killing and that annoys me a lot.
Theyll be losing on the business' electric though so id imagine theyd end up so what status quo.

But to your point, yea they should help out some way they can as well with a reduction in cost or something
 
Complete bans on going out now in certain German cities as well as Bavaria. Not everyone is supporting it and German media's response has been mixed. Numerous virologists have come out against it saying it is not justified, has little effect and could lead to a social catastrophe. Notable politicians from Social Democrats and Greens have criticised it and in Berlin the Left Party has blocked a similar proposal. The Federal Government wants to wait until Sunday before making a decision for the whole country.

Seems to have worked in China so I would like to hear the reasoning behind this.
 
I think I'll go mad if I'm not allowed out tbh. Need to go for a bike ride or a run every day both for fitness and my own sanity.

Again though I think this is because people are still hanging out in groups.

How are they organising supermarket visits in other countries? That's genuinely worrying me about the UK now both from the perspective of having to be around larger amounts of people and also of not being able to get anything.
They shut the doors and only allow a reasonable number of people in the shop at any one time. When a few leave, they let a few more in.
 
Pub’s closed, gym’s closed, why’d they have to start this shit on a Saturday?
 

Toilet roll, baked beans (one of the only things my five year old will eat), antibacterial spray/wipes are all like gold dust in the UK.

Alcohol will be the next thing that will be hard to find with the pubs closing here.
 
I'm waiting for people to start fighting corona virus on the beaches
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Bondi Beach has been temporarily closed after crowds exceeded the 500-person limit decreed by the government

They were on Bondi Beach so the Government had to close it down.
 
Holiday homes in Anglesey are all full , People coming from all over the country , it really pisses me off . People in the UK are arrogant, self centred cnuts .
 
Toilet roll, baked beans (one of the only things my five year old will eat), antibacterial spray/wipes are all like gold dust in the UK.

Alcohol will be the next thing that will be hard to find with the pubs closing here.
There was a big reduction in choice yesterday in my local Sainsbury's. They would probably be empty if I went in today to look.
 
feck me, that’s absolutely diabolical.

I’ve had a meltdown this morning and left my (in laws) family WhatsApp group because they were chuntering on about “how good a job Boris is doing”

To be honest, I’ve been waiting for an excuse for years
I’ve seen loads of people say Boris has done an amazing job. Has he? Ok he’s apparently helped a load of businesses. Is that amazing? He’s made sure a massive amount of people actually have a job and don’t go homeless, but that’s not what you’d expect at the bare minimum?