I completely agree. And it has actually been pretty fast in the grand scheme of things anyway.
The fact is we need people to catch it. There was no point is shutting everything down with only a handful of cases..
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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I completely agree. And it has actually been pretty fast in the grand scheme of things anyway.
The fact is we need people to catch it. There was no point is shutting everything down with only a handful of cases..
Yeah the vulnerable only fro 6-9 wasn't actually true when it came to Asda. They let the vulnerable and elderly in at 6 when I was there this morning and gave them 5 or so minutes before opening it up to absolutely everybody. A staff member then explained to an elderly person that what had apparently been advertised wasn't correct. Basically if you are old or vulnerable and got there at 6:10 you would have seen zero benefit what so ever. Madness.
2 absolute bell ends on sky news. One guy in a pub blaming boris for only recommending staying away from pubs for his being there
On these meds I have to be quick or it won't stay up!
Delivery companies are going to be hiring alot of people soon, methinks.
Hospitals are already struggling with the intake though. For me it is reckless to want it spread quickly for herd immunity when our hospitals aren't equipped for the numbers.
People need to accept responsibility for their actions and their part in this.
There's a whole section if you put 'hazmat' into pornhub.I don’t think Hancock will last this. Like Hunt, his task was to continue the stealthy dismantling and privatisation of the NHS, he’s completely out of his depth for this scenario. I think it’s only a matter of time before he’s replaced with someone who genuinely has the intelligence and skill set to lead this situation.
each country is different. We will only know for certainty whether the actions of the government were correct and at the right time in retrospect is 12-18-24 months time.
I think they have been very clear about what has needed to happen. And like @Camilo says, the science doesn’t say you suddenly go into lockdown at day zero. Take appropriate action dependent on the situation.
There's a VAT deferment for 3 months, so the 20% can be made up through other means.
We'll all get paid in amazon credit and when be builds his spaceship relocate to the moon. All hail Bezos, all hail prime!
Why couldn't the self employed get 80% of their last yearly income? We pay tax like everybody else. We've been absolutely fecked over.
I genuinely feel sorry for people like you.
They'll do something next week im sure. They can't expect you to live on 94 per week. Its just harder to settle on a figure.
It also couldnt be income, it would be of net profit id imagine
Did anyone see that fat cow on BBC News just now moaning about only having a few days food left? She probably means that she actually has enough for a family of four for a week.
The "experts" on here are mostly amplifying what the expert consensus across the globe is. Are you seriously saying you think their best judgment about the health, economic and social outcomes is not worth following? No-one knows precisely what's going to happen, so it's all opinions at the end of the day, and your opinion counts as much as anyone else's?
I'd be more concerned about gig economy workers than the self-employed. But the income protection is a very good start.
I think they were trying get through Mother's Day - now they've realised that was too huge a gamble. Closing the pubs at this stage is another "take it seriously" warning.
I don't think that's necessarily the case. To me it seems pretty obvious this was going to be a progressive shutdown. I had no doubt whatsoever pubs, clubs etc. would be forced to close at some point. A large portion of the general public are thick as two planks however, so to outline this would've caused more of a meltdown than we have already seen.
All depends on how much they truly declare in terms of what comes back. I wouldn't worry, there will be some announcements next week once they work out how to deliver this. The fact they've delivered 80% protection of salaries already would suggest they will do something similar for self employed, the difficult is working out the best and fairest mechanic to do this.
It's exactly the opposite. We needed to defer the point at which people got it until much later, to buy us some time to expand our critical care capacity.
The government's laissez-faire approach to this outbreak will, in the weeks ahead, prove to have been a complete disaster. What we are witnessing here, is a slow motion car crash.
That explains it. It's also fecked up.
I'm no expert on politics how are the government going to fund paying those wages? Does it mean borrowing and another recession?
Thank God school boy Williamson is not in charge of the Treasury.
Hoarder.
Joking aside it's crazy I went at 14:10 and there was nothing in either Sainsbury's and The Food Warehouse.
That's a fair question. Something will absolutely have to be done in that regard.
Dumb people listening to other dumb people without knowing the full facts. Young people thinking they’ll be fine and suffer no symptoms. Others think it’ll they’ll only have a mild case. Some have a drink problem and have nowhere else to turn. Then finally there are those who do not fear death and have seen this kind of thing come and go.
Have to say the early morning supermarket mob are far more common and they’ll die at home surrounded by bog roll and hand wipes.
I’d say there are an awful lot of people who’s lives are going to be destroyed by this virus. It’s going to get very bad in many western counties and the crap elements of our society’s will come out in force, as there won’t be much of a thin blue line...
Australia is probably going to have an explosion of cases over the next few weeks, as our government is being far too reactive and worrying about how business will cope, rather than how many of the electorate will die.
They cannot forget that red wall that they brought crashing down.
There's going to be a huge recession. The question is whether we get a full blown depression like in the 1930s.
And yes, the government is planning to borrow the money and add to the national debt to fund the spending.
Newbie @mehdimike has asked me to relay this question...
Do any of you know any statistics about the rate of recovered asthmatics? (For Covid-19)
The poster is from Iran and his father has asthma, which is prompting the question.
Do any of you know any statistics about the rate of recovered asthmatics? (For Covid-19)
The poster is from Iran and his father has asthma, which is prompting the question.
Thank you. These are scary times. Even when the Coronavirus has gone I guess there is going to be a massive amount of rebuilding and still so many more obstacles and hardships to overcome.
Yes.
I thought the chancellor said it was subject to a maximum of 2.5k per month or have I misunderstood?
If true, why on earth did they allow it.
The recession was happening anyway and the debt is very cheap. The money doesn't disappear but goes back into the economy, a simple but important point.
Hopefully a depression that ushers in a new wave of progressives.
This thread is depressing.
If true, why on earth did they allow it.
Is he after sympathy? Because he can get to feck if so.