SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

If we can be thankful for anything it’s that Javid was replaced by Sunak before all this really kicked off. I can’t begin to imagine how badly Javid would have dealt with all this.
What's your opinion on Sunak? The guy seems pretty on the ball, unlike Johnson.
 
Lots of morons on Twitter saying - without a hint of irony - that staying home is “letting the virus win”
These people need to accept that they have no control over the entirety of their lives anymore. Some stuff is out of their hands. This dumb attitude has just caused further issues - increased the spread, emptied shelves, etc.
 
I've had three outbursts of crying alone in the past three weeks or so. It felt very surreal, the first impact, I wasn't sure if I was going mad becquse everyone (including most of the medical community) were oblivious. It was very scary at first, but for the past 10-15 days I've gotten used to it and progressively more motivated - still scared, but calmer and calmer. Don't know how long it will last.


This seems seems like ages ago, two and a half weeks:

Hang in there mate, great to hear your mindset has flipped to motivation, I guess that’s why you’re in the profession you are in.

I feel like I’m on the edge, I cant work out if my Uni work is adding more stress or providing a distraction. I feel like I’m holding back a bug of some sort (no corona symptoms fortunately) which always happens when I go through periods of high work load and high stress, as soon as its over and I relax it always comes to the surface so as much as Im looking forward to my hand in dates I’m dreading that happening and hoping it doesn’t coincide with me getting corona’d or I’m fecked.
 
These people need to accept that they have no control over the entirety of their lives anymore. Some stuff is out of their hands. This dumb attitude has just caused further issues - increased the spread, emptied shelves, etc.
Is that ever really true anyway?
 
feck's sake Boris, don't advise us...fecking lead us!

Are we such immoral and selfish feckers that the only way we will obey is if we are forced to. If so the sooner they impose martial law on us and send the army in the better as it’s the logical outcome.
 
So.

Its good for employees, although I think many businesses will struggle to make up the lost 20% of wages long term if they have no income, especially smaller ones, so thats a 20% drop in income f or a huge number of households I would imagine.

Its terrible for anyone self employed, essentially you get a tax deferment plus £94 a week to live on. That's a ticking timebomb of problems and the government will have to provide more support, very soon.

Its even worse for the zero hours people, neither johnson or sunak had any answer at all about them, they've just been ignored.

Sunak had good delivery, calm and authoritative. Johnson is at this point just a waste of time.
 
But all businesses will have an income hit, so they just have to close the doors temporarily and send staff home then claim the help

Yup, they've costed for that I'm told. I think some employees will actually lose out from this but it's for the greater good I'm sure
 
Has the magnitude of this sunk in for anyone yet? I’m really struggling to get my head around it.
I think it was Wednesday when I got to acceptance, I have literally been through the 5 stages of grief over this situation and (touch wood) haven't even been directly affected by it.
 
Looks like supermarkets and Amazon are going to be the only companies left operating in the world and everyone will work for them eventually.
 
Are we such immoral and selfish feckers that the only way we will obey is if we are forced to. If so the sooner they impose martial law on us and send the army in the better as it’s the logical outcome.


No, but there are thickos who need to be told. Not everybody watches the news and keeps up with all this. A 10 second soundbite from Boris that rams home the essential point is as good as they might get.
 
Ikea are closing their shops at 6pm today - I've just had the email, but apparently they announced it on twitter yesterday. They say they'll reopen when they can.
 
Contrast this press conference to the same one this time last week...

Almost like the Government have made it up as they've gone along...
Feels like the pub, cafe etc. closure statement only happened because of what Tim Martin said on Sky News. Good that action has been taken but should have happened sooner. Feels like the government is being reactive rather than proactive. Was someone on Sky News earlier saying that the UK is days or so behind other countries in terms of infection rate etc so don't need to take action like lockdowns to try and forcibly reduce the spread but that attitude just means that we will get worse sooner rather than later, and by the time lockdowns are in place it'll be almost too late.
 
In the interest of research I had a quick look. It seems they've just opportunistically given normal porn stuff corona themed names- eg 'old guy and young lass in corona lockdown action' or the like. Disappointing, although not sure what I was expecting tbh. Also, dunno if it was my wfi or loads of people are on it, but it was running really slowly- couldn't actually watch vids.

I was hoping for money shots on N95 masks.
 
Ikea are closing their shops at 6pm today - I've just had the email.
They say they'll reopen when they can.
Youll see alot more business do this now the 80 percent wage help has been brought in along with rates and debt holidays. That has to be the majority of fixed costs covered by the government
 
Now the Lancet medical journal is saying the Chinese doctors and scientists did inform them and even wrote in the journal about this new virus in January this year. At that time they only knew how serious it was and what was the symptoms and how they are trying to isolate it. This was given to the British government by the Journal yet the government did not seem fit to act. In fact the government's policy was to get as many people infected and have a herd mentality. The Chinese and later the Italians were saying this is the wrong approach. The WHO asked for 675M USD to declare a pandemic and was refused.
The whole World has failed and not just China. Others are more culpable because from what happened in China they were able to see beforehand exactly what was going to happen 3 months in advance and yet they did nothing to stop it or to save the lives of so many people.
At least the Chinese are helping other nations to combat this virus. UK government is not doing enough to combat this virus even in the UK. The same in the USA too.
 
What's your opinion on Sunak? The guy seems pretty on the ball, unlike Johnson.

I know virtually nothing about him previous to this so I can’t give an opinion on him as a politician or his views, I’m sure he is just another conservative at the end of the day but I’ve been impressed with how he has been managing this situation.

He’s a stark contrast to Matt Hancock as Health Secretary. While Rishi is clear and straightforward in his responses and talks with knowledge and authority, Hancock is consistently obtuse and says so much without saying anything at all. He was on bbc breakfast this morning and I tried to construct what he actually said after every answer and it was absolutely zero in substance. He’s in perhaps the most crucial role in the country right now and he’s winging it.
 
I’m starting to think the 6-8 months estimations might be optimistic. This could easily last a few years. We will have to basically rebuild economy after it’s done. I can’t wrap my head around what is happening.

No way it can last few years. I mean, the virus can last even more but this closedown will not last more than few months at maximum. I guess we will know more in few weeks, but I doubt everything can stop for more than few months.
 
I know virtually nothing about him previous to this so I can’t give an opinion on him as a politician or his views, I’m sure he is just another conservative at the end of the day but I’ve been impressed with how he has been managing this situation.

He’s a stark contrast to Matt Hancock as Health Secretary. While Rishi is clear and straightforward in his responses and talks with knowledge and authority, Hancock is consistently obtuse and says so much without saying anything at all. He was on bbc breakfast this morning and I tried to construct what he actually said after every answer and it was absolutely zero in substance. He’s in perhaps the most crucial role in the country right now and he’s winging it.
I like to think that Rishi, unlike Javid, is more of a "let the rich get rich and leave them be" Tory instead of the "let the rich get rich and leave them be, and also feck the poor because it's funny" Tory.

Then you had George Osborne who was a "I have no idea what I'm doing but let's kill the poor and steal their clothes" Tory.
 
I know virtually nothing about him previous to this so I can’t give an opinion on him as a politician or his views, I’m sure he is just another conservative at the end of the day but I’ve been impressed with how he has been managing this situation.

He’s a stark contrast to Matt Hancock as Health Secretary. While Rishi is clear and straightforward in his responses and talks with knowledge and authority, Hancock is consistently obtuse and says so much without saying anything at all. He was on bbc breakfast this morning and I tried to construct what he actually said after every answer and it was absolutely zero in substance. He’s in perhaps the most crucial role in the country right now and he’s winging it.

Totally agree. He is definitely making it up as we go along.
 
I know virtually nothing about him previous to this so I can’t give an opinion on him as a politician or his views, I’m sure he is just another conservative at the end of the day but I’ve been impressed with how he has been managing this situation.

He’s a stark contrast to Matt Hancock as Health Secretary. While Rishi is clear and straightforward in his responses and talks with knowledge and authority, Hancock is consistently obtuse and says so much without saying anything at all. He was on bbc breakfast this morning and I tried to construct what he actually said after every answer and it was absolutely zero in substance. He’s in perhaps the most crucial role in the country right now and he’s winging it.
Nuts that for the past eight years we've had Jeremy Hunt followed by Matt Hancock in charge of such an important institution.
 
I like to think that Rishi, unlike Javid, is more of a "let the rich get rich and leave them be" Tory instead of the "let the rich get rich and leave them be, and also feck the poor because it's funny" Tory.

Probably wouldn't have said this 10 weeks ago but we are far luckier that Sunak is the Chancellor as opposed to Javid. 10 weeks ago I would have said they are just two Tory cnuts.
 
No, but there are thickos who need to be told. Not everybody watches the news and keeps up with all this. A 10 second soundbite from Boris that rams home the essential point is as good as they might get.

Surely the point is that they are being ‘told’ and are ignoring. Same with supermarket shopping ....thus my question as to whether the only way to get us to obey is to actually force us.
 
Feels like the pub, cafe etc. closure statement only happened because of what Tim Martin said on Sky News. Good that action has been taken but should have happened sooner. Feels like the government is being reactive rather than proactive. Was someone on Sky News earlier saying that the UK is days or so behind other countries in terms of infection rate etc so don't need to take action like lockdowns to try and forcibly reduce the spread but that attitude just means that we will get worse sooner rather than later, and by the time lockdowns are in place it'll be almost too late.

hAve to disagree. The intervention the government have made is astonishing. You wouldn’t be able to have got to this position in one announcement, it needed to be gradual so the country gets used to what’s happening and is able to digest what’s happening.
 
Looks like supermarkets and Amazon are going to be the only companies left operating in the world and everyone will work for them eventually.
Bezos buys the entire stock market on the dip, declares himself emperor from his New Zealand bunker.
 
Probably wouldn't have said this 10 weeks ago but we are far luckier that Sunak is the Chancellor as opposed to Javid. 10 weeks ago I would have said they are just two Tory cnuts.
Didn't Javid get fired for some bizarre personal reasons ? Anyways he would have put forward the same policy as Sunak did today as anything else is suicide for the country and the government.


hAve to disagree. The intervention the government have made is astonishing. You wouldn’t be able to have got to this position in one announcement, it needed to be gradual so the country gets used to what’s happening and is able to digest what’s happening.
This sort of policy happened in Denmark nearly 2 weeks ago(Fyi Denmark policy is still better). The tories are very late to the party.
 
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