SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Camy89 said:
Depends, you probably played with the bacteria plague which is the easiest. There are virus, fungus, parasite, worm, prion etc, all with different characteristics. I'm stuck on the fungal one at the moment. It passes the time for sure, I like it.
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Tbh. I'm playing it for education purposes but thanks.
 
Rhyme Animal said:
Kinda the equivalent of breeding a maniacal fighting dog, letting it loose in all your neighbour's yards and then 'helping them out' with directions to the nearest Hospital.

This is their doing, this whole thing. And by 'their' I mean the Chinese Government, not any and every person from China.
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The point is whether you trust info from China or not, and I don't see any reason not to. Again, I've read that the treatments they found work best ahve been tested elsewhere and fond to work as well. So it's ont like they're just sending out nonsense data.
 
Irwin99 said:
Not saying this is one or buying into any conspiracy theories but can you imagine the damage an actual bioweapon could do? I think this virus has given us an idea. Scary as hell.
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i dread to think what terrorists think of this. They dont have to do anything
 
berbatrick said:
The point is whether you trust info from China or not, and I don't see any reason not to. Again, I've read that the treatments they found work best ahve been tested elsewhere and fond to work as well. So it's ont like they're just sending out nonsense data.
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Have you not see Cal’s infographics?
 
Rhyme Animal said:
Kinda the equivalent of breeding a maniacal fighting dog, letting it loose in all your neighbour's yards and then 'helping them out' with directions to the nearest Hospital.

This is their doing, this whole thing. And by 'their' I mean the Chinese Government, not any and every person from China.
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After all this is said and done, we need to start pressuring them to end these wet markets.
 
It's hard to know what to say on this anymore, I live in a fairly isolated area in England, and stupidly thought I was fairly insulated, yet my sister has had Covid-19 symptoms (returned from Portugal two weeks ago), rang 111, and they wouldn't test her, my brother's wife has just found out her friend ( a teacher) has tested positive, someone she has seen daily, he was ill 2-3 weeks ago, as was their son, as was I, as was my wife, as was my son, etc, the point is it's just all around us, there is no realistic way of avoiding it.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
It's hard to know what to say on this anymore, I live in a fairly isolated area in England, and stupidly thought I was fairly insulated, yet my sister has had Covid-19 symptoms (returned from Portugal two weeks ago), rang 111, and they wouldn't test her, my brother's wife has just found out her friend ( a teacher) has tested positive, someone she has seen daily, he was ill 2-3 weeks ago, as was their son, as was I, as was my wife, as was my son, etc, the point is it's just all around us, there is no realistic way of avoiding it.
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Not quite clear on your timing but it sounds like you may have been infected and cleared?
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
It's hard to know what to say on this anymore, I live in a fairly isolated area in England, and stupidly thought I was fairly insulated, yet my sister has had Covid-19 symptoms (returned from Portugal two weeks ago), rang 111, and they wouldn't test her, my brother's wife has just found out her friend ( a teacher) has tested positive, someone she has seen daily, he was ill 2-3 weeks ago, as was their son, as was I, as was my wife, as was my son, etc, the point is it's just all around us, there is no realistic way of avoiding it.
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Absolutely. The best we can do is prepare our bodies to get it (exercise, sleep, food, vitamins), try NOT to get it and also hope that if we do, it’s mild to medium illness.
 
Gambit said:
After all this is said and done, we need to start pressuring them to end these wet markets.
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These pandemics will become more common. The Guardian wrote an article that this is just the tip of the ice berg.

The thing as well is that we could pick up the disease that initially stemmed from bats from pigs. As in it passed from bats to pigs to us. Swine flu was pigs.

It is not just China as well. Ebola is central Africa. Some argue that Spanish Flu came from America or France.

We have been due a pandemic for some time tbh. As miserable and frightening as it is.
 
Just saw on Portuguese news, lots of British tourists (and residents) queeing on Algarve airport and packing flights to return home, with little precautions and lots of fear.
 
Maybe it's time for me to read The Stand again... The time is right.

"No one can tell what goes on in between the person you were and the person you become. No one can chart that blue and lonely section of hell. There are no maps of the change. You just...come out the other side."
 
Gambit said:
After all this is said and done, we need to start pressuring them to end these wet markets.
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We won't need to do that. I doubt they still exist and the Chinese will not allow them to resurface.
 
senorgregster said:
Not quite clear on your timing but it sounds like you may have been infected and cleared?
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Timings are out I agree, but symptoms stack up.. I think, the lack of testing is going to make this worse if they don't get it sorted asap, I/we could just as easily have had the usual stuff at this time of year.
 
FootballHQ said:
Interesting he dosen't think closing down schools is an ideal scenario. Nor limiting air travel. Interesting interview. Only time will tell with all these theories.
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Yes interesting. But he is thinking that this thing is already out of control and that its going the way of spanish flu.

He has repeatedly said that once china removes the lock down on its economy, the virus will return.
 
Shakesey said:
Maybe it's time for me to read The Stand again... The time is right.

"No one can tell what goes on in between the person you were and the person you become. No one can chart that blue and lonely section of hell. There are no maps of the change. You just...come out the other side."
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I just started it!

If haven’t read it already, I recommend Camus’ The Plague.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
It's hard to know what to say on this anymore, I live in a fairly isolated area in England, and stupidly thought I was fairly insulated, yet my sister has had Covid-19 symptoms (returned from Portugal two weeks ago), rang 111, and they wouldn't test her, my brother's wife has just found out her friend ( a teacher) has tested positive, someone she has seen daily, he was ill 2-3 weeks ago, as was their son, as was I, as was my wife, as was my son, etc, the point is it's just all around us, there is no realistic way of avoiding it.
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As I said yesteday since the first known case dates from mid November, the virus is already everywhere, the only way to avoid that would have been for China to totally isolate itself before they even realize that the virus is spreading. People need to keep in mind that Wuhan isn't a village, it's a massive city with lots of traffic, people coming from everywhere and leaving to everywhere. We are in management mode not protection or insulation mode.
 
Got an email this afternoon asking faculty and staff for volunteers to be reassigned to the medical system. I've had a cough from allergies for about a month and don't want to volunteer and freak everyone out with my coughing.
 


A 34-year-old man has died in California after testing positive of coronavirus just days ago, and 2 weeks after visiting Walt Disney World and Universal Studios in Florida.

Jeffrey Ghazarian from Glendora, CA, died Thursday morning at a Pasadena hospital after spending 5 days hooked up to a ventilator and battling for his life ... according to his family.

Jeff's timeline regarding his COVID-19 infection is terrifying and should be eye-opening for people of all ages. According to his family, he flew from L.A. to Orlando on March 2 for a work conference, but stayed a few extra days to visit Disney World and Universal theme parks with friends.

We're told on March 7 he developed a cough, and the next day he coughed up blood. He flew back to LAX on March 9 ... and immediately went to the ER, where he also had a high fever.

The family says a chest x-ray confirmed Jeff had pneumonia, and he was tested for COVID-19 and sent home with fluids and antibiotics and instructed to self-quarantine until he got the results back.

We're told the results came back positive on March 13, and Jeff was provided a portable oxygen meter to keep an eye on his levels ... which took a turn for the worse that afternoon.

On March 14 he was taken by ambulance to the hospital and quickly transferred to the ICU when it was discovered his lungs were 60-70 percent blocked with pneumonia. Doctors decided the best path forward was to sedate and intubate, hoping a ventilator would help his lungs heal.

Sadly -- and despite the family claiming he was approved for antiviral meds -- the medication was delayed in getting to him, he took a turn for the worse ... and passed away Thursday morning.

It appears Jeffrey was higher-risk patient. He had a history of asthma and frequent bronchitis as a child, though he outgrew that. He also had undergone surgery for testicular cancer back in 2016.
 
FootballHQ said:
What's the average being tested a day out of interest, any page online that gives a tracker daily?
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Not sure. I can say it used to be about 3-4k for a while then it's gone to 6k and now 8k and soon should be 20-25k.
 
redshaw said:


A 34-year-old man has died in California after testing positive of coronavirus just days ago, and 2 weeks after visiting Walt Disney World and Universal Studios in Florida.

Jeffrey Ghazarian from Glendora, CA, died Thursday morning at a Pasadena hospital after spending 5 days hooked up to a ventilator and battling for his life ... according to his family.

Jeff's timeline regarding his COVID-19 infection is terrifying and should be eye-opening for people of all ages. According to his family, he flew from L.A. to Orlando on March 2 for a work conference, but stayed a few extra days to visit Disney World and Universal theme parks with friends.

We're told on March 7 he developed a cough, and the next day he coughed up blood. He flew back to LAX on March 9 ... and immediately went to the ER, where he also had a high fever.

The family says a chest x-ray confirmed Jeff had pneumonia, and he was tested for COVID-19 and sent home with fluids and antibiotics and instructed to self-quarantine until he got the results back.

We're told the results came back positive on March 13, and Jeff was provided a portable oxygen meter to keep an eye on his levels ... which took a turn for the worse that afternoon.

On March 14 he was taken by ambulance to the hospital and quickly transferred to the ICU when it was discovered his lungs were 60-70 percent blocked with pneumonia. Doctors decided the best path forward was to sedate and intubate, hoping a ventilator would help his lungs heal.

Sadly -- and despite the family claiming he was approved for antiviral meds -- the medication was delayed in getting to him, he took a turn for the worse ... and passed away Thursday morning.

It appears Jeffrey was higher-risk patient. He had a history of asthma and frequent bronchitis as a child, though he outgrew that. He also had undergone surgery for testicular cancer back in 2016.
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feck me. I have a cousin who has asthma. I have another cousin who has lung problems since he was 15 years old.
 
Hugh Jass said:
Yes interesting. But he is thinking that this thing is already out of control and that its going the way of spanish flu.

He has repeatedly said that once china removes the lock down on its economy, the virus will return.
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Last few weeks have shown we can only hope the virus spread slows at some stage (perhaps the summer) by then some reliable anti drugs (no idea on time scale for that) emerge that can act as sticky plasters for a while then winter comes and at least the message to stay in is easier with the darker nights and poorer weather (and many deaths from the first wave to act as the case study).

By then we limp close to March 2021 and perhaps a vaccine will be close but that still will need to be rolled out worldwide.

Very long timescale.
 
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