SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

I've just checked my pantry. All pasta I have (Buitoni, Barilla) is 100% made from grains. What the hell is "fresh" pasta? Pre-cooked presumably?
They call it egg pasta in the UK, you'll find it on the chilled counters in the shops. It's more expensive than dried pasta and obviously has a shorter shelf life. It's not pre-cooked, you cook it in the usual way. Has more calories than the other kind, too.
 
If you plot total cases and deaths on a logarithmic scale it's still exponential.
 
You're right it's time for intervention, supermarkets have failed to stop this nonsense now the more stringent measures are required.

Absolutely. We haven't panic stocked in our house and menu plan very precisely each week to avoid food waste so are getting to the end of our weekly stock. We tried to order click and collect last night and cannot have any slot until April. People, en masse, are so bloody narrow minded sometimes.
 
It's putting people around them at risk as well though. That's certainly my issue with people carrying on as normal right now.

I'm so pissed at my Dad. He was at the horse racing on saturday, went out to the rugby on sunday and then on to the pub, then was at the pub again after work last night. He works in a care home with very old, high risk, vulnerable people. He's 62 as well, and not in the best of health either so he's also high risk. He's a smart guy, I thought he'd know and act better, but he just thinks it's "funny". He's always taken his job very seriously and gone above and beyond for the people he works with, but I just don't know what he's thinking right now. Maddening.


WTF he may have killed dozens of people with his actions.
 
Those shopping queues are absolutely ridiculous. People should be made to shop at whichever store is closest to their home address, as long as it sells essentials. You don't need to go to a huge superstore with massive choice at times like these. You adjust your lifestyle, which includes your eating habits.
 
Lots isn’t though. Even good restaurants will use high quality dried pasta. It all depends on which pasta you want and the rest of the dish. Some traditionally employ a certain dried variety (which typically use no eggs, but some do), others use a fresh pasta (which will likely have a fair amount of egg).

Some of the fresh stuff we get in the UK is a bit weird though. Ain’t nobody using fresh egg shapes like fusili or penne. That’s usually always better in a high quality dried brand. Fresh egg pasta is typically stuffed (ravioli, etc) or bands (tagliatelle or pappardelle).
 
Just seen on Twitter the queues at Asda and Tesco. Think it’s time Military was called to these places.
WTF is the military going to do, apart from cause more fear and panic :lol:

They can't exactly say just 1 pack of pasta lad or i'll shoot you?

The shops just need to be stronger and set limitations. Eventually this'll die down anyway, how many people can stock up much more?
 
WTF is the military going to do, apart from cause more fear and panic :lol:

They can't exactly say just 1 pack of pasta lad or i'll shoot you?

The shops just need to be stronger and set limitations. Eventually this'll die down anyway, how many people can stock up much more?


they can arrest you and detain you.

Do you fancy that or do you prefer to behave reasonably?
 
I can almost guarantee that when this has all settled down, lots of people will have cupboards full of stuff they bought, didn't really want and won't use. And it'll get thrown away.
 
they can arrest you and detain you.

Do you fancy that or do you prefer to behave reasonably?
What legal grounds can they arrest you for shopping? unless Martial Law is declared then they can't do anything.
 
What legal grounds can they arrest you for shopping? unless Martial Law is declared then they can't do anything.


Watch this space after this evening's briefing. Emergency powers will definitely include managing supplies and dealing with cnuts harshly.
 
I can almost guarantee that when this has all settled down, lots of people will have cupboards full of stuff they bought, didn't really want and won't use. And it'll get thrown away.

Was saying the same to my wife last night as she was telling me off for being lazy. So many people don't think straight out of their natural functioning.
 
I can almost guarantee that when this has all settled down, lots of people will have cupboards full of stuff they bought, didn't really want and won't use. And it'll get thrown away.
The amount of food waste that will come from this is sickening.
 
WTF he may have killed dozens of people with his actions.

Yep, it's sickening. He even posted it on Facebook that he was at the pub last night, and all his boomer mates were commenting shite like "good on ya mate!". ffs.

Bizarre how those who are high risk or close to high risk are not giving a feck, and generally younger people are the ones shitting it, not wanting to contract it or pass it on to elder relatives.
 
Those shopping queues are absolutely ridiculous. People should be made to shop at whichever store is closest to their home address, as long as it sells essentials. You don't need to go to a huge superstore with massive choice at times like these. You adjust your lifestyle, which includes your eating habits.

Yeah but you're a sensible person Penna, sadly a large part of the populace is not.
 
WTF is the military going to do, apart from cause more fear and panic :lol:

They can't exactly say just 1 pack of pasta lad or i'll shoot you?

The shops just need to be stronger and set limitations. Eventually this'll die down anyway, how many people can stock up much more?

It'll help to show the seriousness of the situation. The military won't shoot you but they'll have the powers to detain and arrest or or remove you from the supermarket.
 
All the talk of military lockdown is misplaced I think.

We have just 135,000 police after tory cuts and at 95,000 active personnel, a smaller military than at any time since waterloo for the same reason.

Yes, they are armed, but there are two issues with that. First, asking your armed forces to fire on your own civilians is pretty much game over for a society. And if they ever did, it changes the rules forever. There are 65 million people, guns or not they are not winning that fight.

Johnson will, if he is sensible, avoid testing any of that at all costs.

Well he can instigate 'military rule' without actually declaring it, the Corona bill, being the first step. But if looting, violent crime and public disorder becomes pandemic (remember the student riots), he may have no choice. My sister who is a doctor, and caring for Convid19 patients in ICU said to me last night that she is more fearful of the 'mental illness' this crisis is causing, driven mainly by people being addicted to social media, and that in the long term that will be more ruinous to our culture than the tragic and inevitable deaths that will occur.

I think in this extraordinary situation, we have to trust that our Prime Minister has best interests of the country at heart. And he is only as good as the advice he gets from his experts, and his ability to cut through the clutter and identify the genuinely important questions. He may make mistakes, but they will be honest ones, because he will be faced with questions that only have imperfect answers. 'Let one person die to save 100' will be at the heart of every decision he takes.

We need to support our PM right now. The very fact that he won his way to power via the prolonged and divisive Brexit debate tell me, he has great instincts, stamina and self confidence. (PS: I voted Remain and Labour/ Corbyn)
 
I reckon Corbyn is breathing a sigh of relief that he isn't having to run the country right now. There are no winning solutions.
 
I reckon Corbyn is breathing a sigh of relief that he isn't having to run the country right now. There are no winning solutions.
I spent three months listening to idiots on Facebook saying Labour couldn’t do math, people didn’t need free broadband and that shelves would be empty under Jezza.
 
Yeah but you're a sensible person Penna, sadly a large part of the populace is not.
Well, I think it's more that we've got used to eating very simply here, because there's just not the choice that there is in the UK - particularly with sweet things. The only thing we'd struggle without is our breadmaker, because I make a fresh loaf every day. Toast for breakfast, sandwich and yoghurt for dinner, usually pasta and veg for tea.
 
I reckon Corbyn is breathing a sigh of relief that he isn't having to run the country right now. There are no winning solutions.
Im quite glad he isn't too. Managing this situation isn't in his or current Labours locker.
 
Yeah but you're a sensible person Penna, sadly a large part of the populace is not.

Until there are roadblocks stopping you moving between towns, which there will be soon enough, nobody is going to do that through choice.

Yep, it's sickening. He even posted it on Facebook that he was at the pub last night, and all his boomer mates were commenting shite like "good on ya mate!". ffs.

Bizarre how those who are high risk or close to high risk are not giving a feck, and generally younger people are the ones shitting it, not wanting to contract it or pass it on to elder relatives.

The UK has this weird attitude, particularly amongst the older generation, that they have to show they know better. I hear a lot from my parent's friends that they think it's all an overreaction by youth who have never seen tough times, we've seen worse, we survived the war after all (despite the fact it was their parents that did that and most of them have never even seen a gun).
 
Well, I think it's more that we've got used to eating very simply here, because there's just not the choice that there is in the UK - particularly with sweet things. The only thing we'd struggle without is our breadmaker, because I make a fresh loaf every day. Toast for breakfast, sandwich and yoghurt for dinner, usually pasta and veg for tea.
You have a pasta dish after your dinner?
 
WTF is the military going to do, apart from cause more fear and panic :lol:

They can't exactly say just 1 pack of pasta lad or i'll shoot you?

The shops just need to be stronger and set limitations. Eventually this'll die down anyway, how many people can stock up much more?

There'll is the initial surge of panic buying but I think people will realise the shops still get re-stocked and things will calm down a bit.

The shops over here in Ireland have also introduced limits on some goods so you can't walk out with 65 boxes of jax roll you'll never need.

EDIT: They've already begun introducing limits in the UK too:

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/n...ce-purchase-number-limits-on-some-items---fo/
 
they can arrest you and detain you.

Do you fancy that or do you prefer to behave reasonably?

@Adam-Utd

I very much doubt the military will be used for anything other than support initially. I also doubt they will be given any powers of arrest unless it is when assisting a constable. The implications of doing so would be too far reaching and unnecessary. Their role will be to assist front line staff, not take over.
 
Still not working from home, even with all the tools to do so easily. It's got really quiet expecially with the Oil price plummeting, it seems mental that we are still fully staffed in the office.

It seems that it's going to take a number of people actually getting sick before we do something.