SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
On the 10 o clock news on BBC, they said Italy is probably understating Covid 19 deaths in the elderly as if they die, they're not being tested so NOT being classed as a Covid 19 death?

Are there any Italians on here? I'm fascinated as to why they DON'T panic buy stuff. I get common sense says take what you really need and everyone should be ok so why are people in the UK panicking?

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It's the opposite, unless things have changed recently. People are being classified as Covid fatalities if they died for any reason whilst having the virus. The health authority is planning to verify deaths via autopsy later on. Perhaps they realise it's making them look worse though, id be interested if you have a reference to somebody in Italy saying that?

I'm not sure why people dont panic buy here. I think partly the Italian culture takes much more of a 'it will be alright' view. Italians are a nightmare to get to plan, prepare or do anything in the workplace at the best of times. Everything can be done tomorrow. The other element i think that has already been mentioned is that people eat fresh food as a matter of routine. Buying frozen food and ready meals is not something anybody would think to do.
 
Just seen on Twitter the queues at Asda and Tesco. Think it’s time Military was called to these places.
 
11101 said:
It's the opposite, unless things have changed recently. People are being classified as Covid fatalities if they died for any reason whilst having the virus. The health authority is planning to verify deaths via autopsy later on. Perhaps they realise it's making them look worse though, id be interested if you have a reference to somebody in Italy saying that?

I'm not sure why people dont panic buy here. I think partly the Italian culture takes much more of a 'it will be alright' view. Italians are a nightmare to get to plan, prepare or do anything in the workplace at the best of times. Everything can be done tomorrow. The other element i think that has already been mentioned is that people eat fresh food as a matter of routine. Buying frozen food and ready meals is not something anybody would think to do.
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It was the BBC correspondent in Rome referencing what he'd been told.

This Reuters report mentions same thing ....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2152V0
 
Pagh Wraith said:
I've just checked my pantry. All pasta I have (Buitoni, Barilla) is 100% made from grains. What the hell is "fresh" pasta? Pre-cooked presumably?
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It’s made with eggs and takes about a minute to cook. Only lasts a few days on the shelf though, and is therefore more expensive
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
It was the BBC correspondent in Rome referencing what he'd been told.

This Reuters report mentions same thing ....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2152V0
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Ah ok so it's deaths taking place in nursing homes they are not testing. Some are likely to be virus related but a lot won't be.

It does not surprise me if they are doing this though, and i bet other countries are or will be doing it too. All along the government has been getting annoyed that Italy is testing so many more people than anybody else in Europe and it's making the picture look worse.
 
Bojan11 said:
Just seen on Twitter the queues at Asda and Tesco. Think it’s time Military was called to these places.
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Went into Tesco this morning. Opens at 6 & got there at 6:20. Shelfs were all empty. To get around their “3 items per person” limit, entire families were turning up & buying 3 each themselves...Absolutely ridiculous how people are acting.
 
Posh Red said:
It’s made with eggs and takes about a minute to cook. Only lasts a few days on the shelf though, and is therefore more expensive
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That doesn't sound very Italian to me. I know there are noodles made from eggs but I've always thought pasta (=Italian) means no eggs.
 
Second day WFH today. I live in a small town so around 6pm yesterday I went for a hike for some fresh air around the hills then out of curiosity I called in Tesco and was pleasantly surprised. Few empty shelves but not much and all calm in terms of those shopping.

Lots of old people drinking in the local Wetherspoons too. If they want to take the risk, go for it I suppose. My folks are social distancing for the foreseeable.
 
Bojan11 said:
Just seen on Twitter the queues at Asda and Tesco. Think it’s time Military was called to these places.
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This is why I go to the little independent shops.
They generally have the basics for what I need in this situation.
 
esmufc07 said:




PM is going to have to do something sooner rather than later.
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You're right it's time for intervention, supermarkets have failed to stop this nonsense now the more stringent measures are required.
 
Alabaster Codify7 said:
Second day WFH today. I live in a small town so around 6pm yesterday I went for a hike for some fresh air around the hills then out of curiosity I called in Tesco and was pleasantly surprised. Few empty shelves but not much and all calm in terms of those shopping.

Lots of old people drinking in the local Wetherspoons too. If they want to take the risk, go for it I suppose. My folks are social distancing for the foreseeable.
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It's putting people around them at risk as well though. That's certainly my issue with people carrying on as normal right now.

I'm so pissed at my Dad. He was at the horse racing on saturday, went out to the rugby on sunday and then on to the pub, then was at the pub again after work last night. He works in a care home with very old, high risk, vulnerable people. He's 62 as well, and not in the best of health either so he's also high risk. He's a smart guy, I thought he'd know and act better, but he just thinks it's "funny". He's always taken his job very seriously and gone above and beyond for the people he works with, but I just don't know what he's thinking right now. Maddening.
 
Pagh Wraith said:
The fact that the Czech Republic, which has the highest beer consumption in the world, has no deaths yet would support that theory.
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Denmark had a quite low mortality rate last time I checked as well. (Although I think that climb in the coming weeks)
 
2mufc0 said:
You're right it's time for intervention, supermarkets have failed to stop this nonsense now the more stringent measures are required.
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Asda said from 6 to 9am it was supposed to be elderly and said others should stay away if they can. Yet these people came and staff got overwhelmed. It’s hard to control this amount of people. Supermarket security can’t do shit. They even dare touch someone they could lose their job. Time for military and police to be in these shops. Limited people in shop and one of each item for every person.
 
Bojan11 said:
Asda said from 6 to 9am it was supposed to be elderly and said others should stay away if they can. Yet these people came and staff got overwhelmed. It’s hard to control this amount of people. Supermarket security can’t do shit. They even dare touch someone they could lose their job. Time for military and police to be in these shops. Limited people in shop and one of each item for every person.
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Yeah when I meant fail, as in they don't have the resource/power to stop these morons. I agree the army/police should be brought in or we will face food shortages.
 
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