Your first claim is unsubstantiated. The live market was a hub in Wuhan, we actually don't know where it started, and we don't know patient zero. What we do know is that the very busy market of Wuhan(a massive city) was the first hotspot and that's it.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Your first claim is unsubstantiated. The live market was a hub in Wuhan, we actually don't know where it started, and we don't know patient zero. What we do know is that the very busy market of Wuhan(a massive city) was the first hotspot and that's it.
Sure, it is the most likely scenario. It happens all the time.
Also, peer-reviewed does not mean too much. It only means that 2-3 other researchers spent like 1-4 hours reading it and thought that it is okay.
For me its The Knack's-My Sharona.
M-m-m-my Corona!
Some folks might actually lose some weight, tends to happen in times like this. There’s a theory that people actually get more healthy in times of economic struggle.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00210-0
They will propose corrections and at least in my field, many papers take at least 6 months from submission to be published, even over a year. The quality of review (seems to) increases depending on the journal. Many journals will simply not accept work which doesn't meet their standard. I don't know where you get this idea that it takes a few hours and your done - publishing a paper in a well respected journal is decidedly not easy at all.
Just wondered where you got those percentages from? I’m surprised from those % that’s all.
Good man
I've been reading for years that Trump has 'started a trade war' with China and that relations between the two powers weren't great but are we now edging into more aggressive territory (US/Iran type stuff)? How bad is the perception of America over there?
Cause I am all the time at both sides (reviewing papers and reading papers). And I know, that the revisions are common. Btw, in this case it clearly didn't take 6 months.
Finally, the vast majority of time in the review process takes cause the editor in chief (or associate editors) are having a hard time to find the reviewers. And when they find, the reviewers have a month or so to review it (many take longer, cause you know, life and other stuff), but in the end, not many spend more than a few hours on the reviewing process.
I never said it is easy to publish a paper in a top journal (or in CS field, top conference), the vast majority of papers are clearly bad work for a top journal/conference so easy rejects, a tiny minority are good and get easily accepted, with most being very dependent on a random process.
The problem is that you would need several people to make a mistake for a pathogen to leave these labs. But I do believe that it played a role in China's reaction, they probably tried to manage the issue more discreetly because it happened in Wuhan.
Got them from wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_the_United_Kingdom
The UK produces only 59% of the food it consumes. In 2010, it exported £14 billion worth of food, feed and drink, and imported £32.5 billion. The vast majority of imports and exports are with other Western European countries.
Quick maths may have been wrong.
It has happened before (with SARS actually): https://www.biospace.com/article/around-the-web/china-reports-sars-death-caused-by-lab-leak/
Oh, three times actually (in 3 different countries).
SARS' numbers look so small compared to Covid-19. Puts things into perspective.
One of the reasons, why I never understood Brexit.
EU membership gave you in times of unexpected crisis higher food supply security.
I read that based on everything we know about infectious diseases it’s unlikely you can get it again. I think Boris’s expert said that though so we can take it with a pinch of salt.
I agree based on what we know now this isn’t a feasible option. Relying on herd immunity as a core plan is clearly unrealistic, but if it is something that can help (people building immunity) then it will be factored into the long term planning and models at least.
That wasn't a P4 lab. It has happened in P3 labs though.
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No one understands it, least of all the idiots who voted for it.
It was on the foreign office website in November though, albeit the extent of it being very unclear. The incompetence / fear of looking bad in front of the national government of the local officials is a vastly more likely cause of the cover up than some bizarre biowarfare scenario where they tried to engineer a not very deadly virus that would spread all round the world in a heartbeat.
I appreciate all of that, its just that your original post may be interpreted as peer reviewed papers aren't that great, when really I think the message should be anything in a well respected journal is usually fine.
Said this to my dad the other day. People are hoarding when actually it's a good time to fast. Humans consume way too much food. Most of us don't even need to eat every day.
Not to mention that the virus attacks the Ace2 receptor of which east Asian men have 4 to 5 times more of in their lungs than other races. Chinese ain't engineering a virus that targets their own people.
Ireland is still insisting on not cancelling horse racing.
Totally, most of the people that are dying from this virus do so because they have comorbidities caused by drinking and eating too much.
And people with no experience of working within the education sector tend to have an incredibly negative and narrow-minded view of the profession.
Am I doing this right?
I’ll be at work on Monday. As will many others. I wouldn’t worry yourself too much about that.
Thanks.
Are you in France?
How long has this lockdown been in place? Is an end date set?
Who do you give this signed form to? Is it a physical form or some kind of online thing?
Are there penalties if found on the streets without the relevant paperwork?
Anybody heard of a guy called Jason Nota?
There is a video of his doing the rounds on Facebook where he is claiming that Boris will announce a 15 day total shutdown of the UK tomorrow.
Probably a load of bollocks.
There is a video of his doing the rounds on Facebook where he is claiming that Boris will announce a 15 day total shutdown of the UK tomorrow.
Probably a load of bollocks.
Yes, I'm in France. The lockdown effectively started yesterday and you give the attestation to the police if they ask, currently you are supposed to get a 135€ fine if you don't have the attestation with you.
You know, I never heard that argument come up once. Food security is never really discussed here and something we take for granted. It would have been too abstract for the Brexit bunch to grasp.
I'll be in work also. I'll be in work throughout this. I just have had many years having people in teaching telling me how important they are and acting like nobody can possibly have a more difficult job. I'm sure you are not like that and I know not all teachers are like that but feck me I've met many like it.
That's also an anagram of Jan Oat Son so who knows what's going on.
Well, that's already happening in the rest of Europe so its not drastically draconian by any means.
It is plausible and will likely happen soon enough.
Never heard of him but a quick google led to the following top hit:
JASON NOTA ~ "PEOPLE ARE feckING STUPID, THIS CORONA VIRUS IS NOTHING BUT A SMOKE SCREEN"