SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

They are I believe. I'm referring to what they generally get paid.
Ah fair enough. Yea id agree they're underpaid.

Hopefully if any good comes from this the govn and people will realise those in the medical industry need a pay bump
 
Anybody heard of a guy called Jason Nota?

There is a video of his doing the rounds on Facebook where he is claiming that Boris will announce a 15 day total shutdown of the UK tomorrow.

Probably a load of bollocks.
I havent seen the video but does it mention the military at all?
 
Never heard of him but a quick google led to the following top hit:

JASON NOTA ~ "PEOPLE ARE feckING STUPID, THIS CORONA VIRUS IS NOTHING BUT A SMOKE SCREEN"

:lol:
I’ll file this one under bullshit then.
 
I see the Universal Basic Income is been suggested as way forward in the Uk during this, it would certainly give reassurance to alot of people, and keep things propped up short term.
 
What's the deal with Italy's stats? Apparently the fatality rates have soared again.
 
Yes, I'm in France. The lockdown effectively started yesterday and you give the attestation to the police if they ask, currently you are supposed to get a 135€ fine if you don't have the attestation with you.

Interesting.

Sorry for all the questions.. but:

How would they know you aren't just saying your going for groceries or generally lying about what you're doing though? Also, have they specified what physical activities are allowed? Golf can be quite isolating... :)
 
What's the deal with Italy's stats? Apparently the fatality rates have soared again.

No particular deal, you need to pay attention to the critical cases figures and keep in mind that most of these people are among the people with higher chances of death. Currently Italy has 2257 critical cases, a large amount are going to die.
 
I appreciate all of that, its just that your original post may be interpreted as peer reviewed papers aren't that great, when really I think the message should be anything in a well respected journal is usually fine. :)
There is actually some junk in top venues, but most are fine (but hardly advance the field), and a tiny minority which are awesome. In venues with binary choices (accept/reject) like conferences in CS (conferences in CS are more important than journals and have a lengthy double-blinded review process, similar to journals in other fields), the bulk of the papers are in the category of okay, and with the review process very random http://blog.mrtz.org/2014/12/15/the-nips-experiment.html

I have seen papers getting orals in top conferences (acceptance rate of orals is typically 1-2%) being absolute junk, there are papers who get rejected to later get a best paper award and so on.

Peer-review is better than no review, but in the end, it is hardly fault-proof (or anywhere near that).
 
There is actually some junk in top venues, but most are fine (but hardly advance the field), and a tiny minority which are awesome. In venues with binary choices (accept/reject) like conferences in CS (conferences in CS are more important than journals and have a lengthy double-blinded review process, similar to journals in other fields), the bulk of the papers are in the category of okay, and with the review process very random http://blog.mrtz.org/2014/12/15/the-nips-experiment.html

I have seen papers getting orals in top conferences (acceptance rate of orals is typically 1-2%) being absolute junk, there are papers who get rejected to later get a best paper award and so on.

Peer-review is better than no review, but in the end, it is hardly fault-proof (or anywhere near that).

I presume by CS you mean computer science? In my field most conferences are rubbish but one or two are very good. Most of the well respected journals also have very good papers, its rare to find anything rubbish. Not much is groundbreaking though, but its the nature of the field.
 
I hope our network providers can support the surge in home internet use, particularly with the kids now going to be at home too...
 
I presume by CS you mean computer science? In my field most conferences are rubbish but one or two are very good. Most of the well respected journals also have very good papers, its rare to find anything rubbish. Not much is groundbreaking though, but its the nature of the field.
Yep, CS is quite different. For historical reasons, the science in that field has been published mostly in conferences, and in AI related field almost exclusively in conferences (especially in the last 5 years). Top conferences have an acceptance rate of around 20% (for orals it is 1-2%), the review is double-blinded (with 3-5 reviewers), it consists of a rebuttal/revision scheme, and the entire process from submission to proceeding lasts in average 7-8 months (which ironically, can be slower than in top journals). So, while in other fields the conferences are kind of joke (send preliminary work or extended abstracts) in CS they are the most important (and top quality) venues.

In any case, I think my point was more for peer-review in general. At the end, it is a very random process, which to some degree depends on the mood of the reviewer who spends a few hours on that paper. Not bullet-proof, not close. Still better than no review though.
 
Not just the English then:

What's with stupid people and tautologies? From a one minute video:

If I get corona, I get corona.
Whatever happens, happens.
We're just gonna do what happens, when it happens (?)
When stuff closes, we're just gonna do it when it closes. (uh huh?)

I don't even know what the last two mean (what a mind on that guy).
 
I'll be in work also. I'll be in work throughout this. I just have had many years having people in teaching telling me how important they are and acting like nobody can possibly have a more difficult job. I'm sure you are not like that and I know not all teachers are like that but feck me I've met many like it.

I’m not belittling or generalising your profession; so whether you go to work on Monday or not doesn’t concern me.

Teaching is a difficult job. In isolation, that isn’t an unreasonable remark. It can also be a brilliant job, something I’ve sat and reflected on over the past week or so.

In addition, I’m not sure why you had a problem with teachers being described as ‘key workers’? I know lots of teaching couples that have children. Their children need safe provision while they go to work to teach and support local communities.
 
Near our house is a gate leading to a park, which people walk through to get to the nearest Aldi.
Got WhatsApp messages today saying that there were 2 teenage girls blocking the gate in such a way that people had to squeeze past them. When people did squeeze past the girls deliberately coughed in peoples faces. Scumbags! Wtf is wrong with people??
 
There is actually some junk in top venues, but most are fine (but hardly advance the field), and a tiny minority which are awesome. In venues with binary choices (accept/reject) like conferences in CS (conferences in CS are more important than journals and have a lengthy double-blinded review process, similar to journals in other fields), the bulk of the papers are in the category of okay, and with the review process very random http://blog.mrtz.org/2014/12/15/the-nips-experiment.html

I have seen papers getting orals in top conferences (acceptance rate of orals is typically 1-2%) being absolute junk, there are papers who get rejected to later get a best paper award and so on.

Peer-review is better than no review, but in the end, it is hardly fault-proof (or anywhere near that).
If I remember correctly the first YOLO paper was rejected for publication which struck me as a bit odd.
 
Near our house is a gate leading to a park, which people walk through to get to the nearest Aldi.
Got WhatsApp messages today saying that there were 2 teenage girls blocking the gate in such a way that people had to squeeze past them. When people did squeeze past the girls deliberately coughed in peoples faces. Scumbags! Wtf is wrong with people??
Couldn't that be classed as attempted murder?
 
Near our house is a gate leading to a park, which people walk through to get to the nearest Aldi.
Got WhatsApp messages today saying that there were 2 teenage girls blocking the gate in such a way that people had to squeeze past them. When people did squeeze past the girls deliberately coughed in peoples faces. Scumbags! Wtf is wrong with people??

Can't imagine they'll be doing that for too long before going home with broken noses.
 
So. Have they exposed a recovered patient to the virus yet, to see if he developed immunity? I still see this being regurgitated, almost as fact, but I'm yet to see any real data from a reliable source that confirms or shed light on it. Any links or updates on this?
 
If I remember correctly the first YOLO paper was rejected for publication which struck me as a bit odd.
Probably. I think that the second version of SIFT was rejected several times too, but that was a long time ago. GAN paper was barely published (had a reject from Schmidhuber), and in general nowadays the majority of papers who get accepted get accepted in second/third attempt (effectively making the reviewing process 1year+, which is close to that of journals in other fields).

Same happens for Nature/Science (other fields). With the review process not being double-blinded, there are cases when a paper gets rejected, to only add a big name author, resubmit it and get accepted. So, it is a very imperfect process.
 
On the one hand I look at these hoarders and breakers and am utterly disgusted by the callous self serving nature of them. On the other hand it's no secret that we live in Tory/Trump land so it's sort of ingrained, to be outraged is to be not really paying attention.
 
I think that is the most likely scenario, but too many coincidences * are happening. https://nypost.com/2020/02/22/dont-buy-chinas-story-the-coronavirus-may-have-leaked-from-a-lab/

* The only biowarfare laboratory being located in Wuhan.
The original theory was that it came from bats, to change to it jumped from bats to some intermediate animal 20-70 years ago.
China accusing US that Us made the virus.
China launching directives to be extra careful in coronavirus research.
The cases probably starting in November, not in December as we thought, and China immediately arresting the doctor who detected it first.
The research in finding a vaccine being lead by a military expert in bioweapons.

I still think that it is very likely that it came from wet markets, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was leaked somehow, and then China was doing cover-up which made the situation even worse. So for me, in the last few days the conspiracy theory has jumped from close to 0%, to it might be possible though it is still quite unlikely.

I probably shouldn't, but:

FAO techno-thriller loving dabbling conspiracy theorists
(the virus shipped to the Canadian lab is not covid19; it's almost certainly MERS)

Interesting that he consistently says 2-3 months when referring to a shutdown.

At the end of the day, he's a tech-head; judging from his other answers, it seems he's a proponent of the higher-tech aggressive testing and 45 day-ish peaking and immediate rebound detection going on in the Asian countries. AKA don't fatalistically assume broad scale infection; see if you can't stamp it out and then block the borders.
 
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