SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

sullydnl said:
Yeah. Except shouldn't that be front page stuff? "The UK has just realised in the last few days that it's plan will see the health service massively overwhelmed".

The lack of a reaction everywhere has me puzzled and is making me think I've missed something.
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But when has the British media ever held the Tories accountable? It's only been a 3 months since they managed to fight an election pretending that they weren't actually in power for the last 10 years.
 
BluesJr said:
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A complete shambles that they should never be allowed to forget even in a few years time when they try and tar the next Labour leader for what he/she once ordered from McDonalds. Although the public are so thick that it's probably wishful thinking.
 
sullydnl said:
Yeah. Except shouldn't that be front page stuff? "The UK has just realised in the last few days that it's plan will see the health service massively overwhelmed".

The lack of a reaction everywhere has me puzzled and is making me think I've missed something.
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It might be that the media are actually being responsible and not wanting to cause nation wide panic. I'm not sure how much good pointing it out would be. It's now a situation of deal with whats coming as best we can and being awesome to one another where possible.

I'll be looking out for my neighbours who are most at risk and told them that if they do get sick i'll prepare them daily meals etc. If nothing else that should ease the burden on their relatives and make my neighbours feel a little safer.
 
Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:
I think they already did that as far back as December.
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It's quite remarkable how this all evolved. Early this year a spokesman for the Dutch airport Schiphol said "there's basically zero chance the virus spreads to the Netherlands. We don't have direct flights to Wuhan."

I get why they said that, they genuinely thought it would remain a Chinese domestic issue. But boy, did that quote age like milk.
 
Skills said:
But when has the British media ever held the Tories accountable? It's only been a 3 months since they managed to fight an election pretending that they weren't actually in power for the last 10 years.
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:lol:
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Not sure if Govt's are still prepared for this. We've been getting curfews and restrictions for 2 weeks, but all signs point to this peaking in two weeks with potential drop around May, if not later.
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Depends on what kind of peak. If that's a natural peak, there's going to be a lot of dead people.
 
Still amazes me that English people have no idea what the tory party is actually capable of.

They are and always have been lower than vermin.
 
here is the actual summary of the report:

The global impact of COVID-19 has been profound, and the public health threat it represents is the most seriousseen in a respiratory virus since the 1918 H1N1 influenza pandemic.Here we present the results of epidemiological modelling which has informed policymaking in the UK and other countries in recent weeks. In the absence of a COVID-19 vaccine, weassess thepotential role of a number of public health measures –so-called non-pharmaceutical interventions (NPIs) –aimed at reducing contactrates in the population and thereby reducing transmission of the virus. In the results presented here, we apply a previously published microsimulation model to two countries: the UK (Great Britain specifically) and the US. We conclude that the effectiveness of any one intervention in isolationis likely to be limited, requiring multiple interventions to be combined to have a substantial impact on transmission. Two fundamental strategies are possible: (a) mitigation, which focuses on slowing but not necessarily stopping epidemic spread –reducing peak healthcare demand while protecting those most at risk of severe disease from infection, and (b) suppression, which aims to reverse epidemic growth, reducingcase numbers to low levels and maintaining that situation indefinitely.Each policy has major challenges. We find that that optimal mitigation policies (combining home isolation of suspect cases, home quarantine of those living in the same household as suspect cases, and social distancing of the elderly and others at most risk of severe disease) might reduce peak healthcare demand by 2/3 and deaths by half. However,the resulting mitigated epidemic would still likely result inhundreds of thousands of deaths and health systems (most notably intensive care units) being overwhelmed many times over.For countries able to achieve it, this leaves suppression as the preferred policy option. We show thatin the UK and US context, suppression will minimally requirea combination of social distancing of the entire population, home isolation of casesandhousehold quarantine of their familymembers. This may need to be supplemented byschool and university closures, though it should be recognised that such closures may have negative impacts on health systems due to increased

The major challenge of suppression is that this type ofintensiveintervention package –or something equivalently effective at reducing transmission –will needto be maintained until a vaccine becomes available (potentially 18 months or more) –given thatwe predict thattransmission will quickly rebound if interventions are relaxed.We show that intermittent social distancing –triggered by trends in disease surveillance –may allow interventions to be relaxed temporarily in relative short time windows, but measures will need to be reintroduced if or when case numbersrebound.Last, whileexperience in Chinaand now South Korea showthat suppression is possible in the shortterm, it remains to be seen whether it is possible long-term, and whether the social and economic costs of the interventions adopted thus far can be reduced.
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https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/im...-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf
 
sebsheep said:
Apparently people were buying the baby milk formula due to the long life milk being sold out, because y'know it's not like people with babies will need it....
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The same thing with Muppets buying baby wipes because there's no toilet paper. The clue is in the fecking name you dipshits. Enjoy clogging your drains up as well.
 
Rado_N said:
Proper Andrex poo wipes are wondrous things though.
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Oh yeah. I use these other amazing ones on my arse that start my day off right. They're made by a company I've never heard of before. Dettol.
 
sammsky1 said:
I had the worst flu I've ever had in December too. Lasted from 18 Dec - 27 Dec. It was crazy because I'd just completed a 4 week powerlifting strength gain cycle in gym, and PR'd in all my lifts, so theoretically was the strongest Ive ever been. And yet during this flu, I could barely go for a 10 min walk before feeling exhausted.

Started with a dry cough, quickly became like I had glass in my throat and I was dreading each time I coughed. Lasted 3 days. Then came a crazy fever and the deep flu sleep that comes with that. That lasted 3 days. Then I had these crazy intense abdominal pains, like I'd been punched just below the rib cage. Half way through this saga, I felt vaguely suicidal for 3 days, especially at sleep time, when I was questioning the purpose of life itself.

My Mum also had it a few days before me, I almost certainly contracted it from her. She had very similar symptoms but not quite as bad and recovered more quickly. Neither of us went to the doctor, we just assumed it was seasonal flu and toughed it out using OTC medicines.

The Convid19 symptoms sound exactly the same.
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I've heard doctors say it has been a particularly bad flu season, I wonder if it has been circulating for a long time.
 
TMDaines said:
Despite headlines of WHO SLAMS UK FOR STOPPING TESTING we seem to be posting numbers that only Asian countries, Italy and a couple of others are outstripping:

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus#current-covid-19-test-coverage-estimates

Judging by what Whitty said earlier, it still sounds like we are testing every possible positive case, but we aren’t wasting our time testing people who may have had it. We are just not testing those will now test negative, because the test won’t confirm if you did previously have COVID-19. Maybe they need to just work on their communication, as they appear to be doing themselves a disservice.

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Your tests per million capita (if we want to compare apples with apples) has you in 12th place according to the link you shared. With 11 countries (including 6 other European countries) doing better than you. Which is pretty shoddy for one of the biggest/wealthiest countries on the continent.

In fact, you’re only one place ahead of Ireland in that table and I know for a fact that the rolling out of testing in Ireland has been an absolute clusterfeck. Only just starting to become fit for purpose.
 
Starting to get the feeling this is a lot worse than anybody is willing to admit at this moment, especially with the recent government mess up most people knew would happen. The fact a minority are undermining and purposely ignoring the advice given is really worrying. Maybe my anxiety kicking it up a gear, but really feels like the beginning of something we won't come good from. If anything was to wipe humanity out, it would be something like this. Don't think my anxiety can handle reading more into this, but at the same time, the need to pay attention and show maturity here is essential.

My best wishes go out to every single one of you.
 
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