He's right. You're an idiot. I don't need to be told by a government that the shit is hitting the fan and make changes to my life in advance of official advice. No intelligent people do (apart from my parents, who are also fecking wealthy since that seems important to you) that are now stuck on a fecking boat in Brazil with a cruise line that doesn't seem to give a serious feck. They're fecking idiots too, but they realise that now.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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He's right. You're an idiot. I don't need to be told by a government that the shit is hitting the fan and make changes to my life in advance of official advice. No intelligent people do (apart from my parents, who are also fecking wealthy since that seems important to you) that are now stuck on a fecking boat in Brazil with a cruise line that doesn't seem to give a serious feck. They're fecking idiots too, but they realise that now.
Ive been defending the U.K. strategy and why and giving reason for what I’ve been doing and you come on here with snide little jibes. Not worth the time
Can you remind me of your scientific knowledge on this? Your expertise DMA?
Because Sweden is absolutely backing up the UK on this and following a rather similar strategy, so are we stupid fecks here too because you know better?
The worst thing about this virus that has killed thousands of people around the world are posts on a football forum?
Would be worth a read up on Witty. He’s had an incredible life and career. I’ll find the link for you
Mental.
So if a couple of 70+ people died in a month or so, and it could be directly traced back to you having gotten it in a pub, and spread it around your school, you'd say "Ah well, I had to get on with my life didn't I?"?
More than medical experts I prefer to rely on models that worked (backed by their experts too) and China had been able to stop it apparently. Why risk it with so many unknowns unknowns, risk of mutation and high death rate expected? So till another country is more succesful than China (and probably Japan, Thailand, Sourth Korea) is completely fair than another procedure seems bonker to the you called layman. Because you don't need expertise to have common sense
Italy had it's outbreak first, simply put. The virus was circulating for ~3 weeks before it was caught. Assuming an average increase of 50% per day, by the time it was discovered it had already infected 5,000 people. Looking back now at the numbers, and knowing it takes up to 2 weeks for symptoms to show, that's pretty spot on. Italy broke 5,000 cases 16 days after the first detection
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What a good idea! Pack 6000 people together and make them all do something to suppress their immune systems.
Oh yes. These idiots are bound and determined to defy the rules.
Have you seen anything exaggerating the situation in the US from the Italian media?
That says it all, really.
The whole thing also starts leading to disputes. My wife‘s father had spent last weekend in one of Austrian‘s hotspots. Had fever a few days later and not told us or anyone. We had quite some discussions before he finally reported himself and has been put into quarantine.
Also had a short chat with friends today and they just don’t see the urgency. Have invited their parents for the standard Sunday afternoon coffee session. Fools.
Also had a short chat with friends today and they just don’t see the urgency. Have invited their parents for the standard Sunday afternoon coffee session. Fools.
You probably could have just limited that post to the last 4 words to be fair.
Just learned that COVID-19 causes cannibalism.
Source: RedCafe.
Source: RedCafe.
How many people in China died again? 3,199 right @4bars?
UK is currently on 35.
Common sense indeed.
You haven't come across like that. in saying that you will wait for official advice before changing behaviour you've come across as an idiot. You've been pulled for your wealthy jibe too as if it matters. See my latest reply to you. We are all fecking stressed, I expect that at least one of my parents will die and that's pretty shit to be honest. You don't need to be going to the bloody pub and name dropping the jobs of the kind of people you associate with as a way to justify idiocy.
You're making a mistake but at the end of the day that is just my opinion having been affected by this first hand. I'd expect the more educated of society to be more rational in these times and that's why I got annoyed with your post. If you're personally offended by my conclusion that you're being an idiot, I am sorry, but that's how it looks to me.
Cheers
I mean in regards to the true CFR.
You're too worked up mate.
4 and 6 have incredible stunts, 3 has a great story.
6 is my favourite action film ever, genuine masterpiece of the genre
Don’t even know where to start with this. I’ve been around 800+ children and adults for the past month, plenty who’ve come back from holidays in Italy and spain. Likelihood is a lot of people have had it, in the school and in the community. How you then trace that back to one person, to suit your agenda is upto you
If you really are interested in the answers, you’ll find plenty of good discussion in the 246 pages here so far.
Cards on the table, I have no reason to be biased towards supporting a Tory government. The Home Office under them has bled my wife and I dry in immigration fees for her and stress caused, and left us living apart for a further 10 months after marriage. Let’s not even get on to Windrush and Brexit.
You think the very people who couldn't stop this before it started will stop it after?
I'm no expert. That said, I've mastered in pharmaceuticals with biochem as an undergrad. That said, I don't claim to know better than anyone. What I do claim is that there is actual evidence showing the benefits of lockdowns and social distancing. There is NO evidence that the strategy proposed by your beloved government will work.
Like I said earlier, where were these scientific models months ago? If they're so brilliant at saving lives, why are we losing so many?
No mate, I'm not worked up, just called you out for acting the twat.
what do you mean?
Mate it looks like your brain is wired in slightly different way than the (significant) rest of us here.
How many cases when wuhan had locked down? 400 cases? why UK didn't do it when they had them? Common sense indeed
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Well there was the ‘super spreader’ in wales who apparently accidentally infected 100’s.
Listen right, Starkie_1 has affluent and like minded friends who are taking the right precautions like hanging around together. They don't know any old people and there is no way they could pass it on to people who end up passing it on to others. How could they, they are like minded and affluent?!
Woah, calm down there, a lot are just questioning on what is this so called 'science' is that the government are using and urging them to publish their plan so it can be read by the public. It also doesn't help that an open letter was sent from 300 scientist claiming that immunity herd isn't the best way. So if all these scientist are arguing against each other - it's going to cause a lot of people great confusion and question the risks - it's only a normal reaction.
I think the criticisms are justified because the government are just asking the public to trust them, putting 'trust' on a policy is simply not good enough. The UK's health secretary only today in an interview said they will publish the plan and science behind it within the next few days, it should really have have been published awhile ago.
Another fair criticism is the decisions that are being made from the government is coming through journalists, not actual government officials. This is causing a lot of anxiety because again, the communication needs to be open with regular press conferences from official people, not reading headlines like "the government is to put over 70's in lock down in the upcoming weeks" without any dates, or any exact information, and news channels having to ask if this is true or not.
It's all fair criticisms, in my opinion.
I was being tongue in cheek. I wonder how many people like you are going to continue to go out despite the fan being blocked by shit. A question for you, would you go on holiday to northern Italy now? How about Spain? If not, why not?
Just curious as to whether you self isolate for 14 days whenever you have a seasonal bug or flu, which of course kill thousands every year in the UK?
Maybe we trust scientists too? All 400+ of them.
http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia/UK_scientists_statement_on_coronavirus_measures.pdf
I’m not sure it’s possible to be personally offended on an internet forum and if you are I think it suggests you need time away from it. All the same I appreciate the apology and offer you mine for coming across the way you’ve interpreted.
The wealthy area comment was meant to be just that, about the area. As with those I was having lunch with (not getting pissed up for the sake of it, a lunch). It was as a reply to someone who claimed I was a killer.
I feel for you regarding your parents, I honestly do. And I hope that doesn’t happen.
4,5 and 6 are very good.
Guess your vacation in japan is fecking canceled eh?
Who would have thought a cough and a cold could spark a mega recession.Like you said you don't listen to advice on football forum then stop giving your advice, we don't want to hear it either.
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There is always disagreement in science. If another plan had been produced, another group of scientists would have disagreed. The only time you get agreement in science is after a long period of time for something which is very well understood after years (perhaps decades) of research.
Looks like it doesn’t it. But then I’ve always found that on this forum, particularly about United so it makes sense.
This will kill hundreds of thousands at a minimum. It's not the same. Wait til your parents are at risk.
This thread will be gold by the time we’re all locked down. People losing their minds already and we’re not even out of the starting blocks
Where are we not losing lives? We've lost 35 in the UK so far. 3 in Sweden.
The UK isn't against social distancing, the have confirmed again and again that this is coming. But the UK model is showing that the virus is so widespread now that closing schools etc now will have a worse effect. Why is that so hard to accept? If there model is saying that, how does anyone know they are so wrong who isn't an expert themselves?
Once again, it's based on sound science. And if you have zero knowledge, as a pharmaceuticals masters grad, then why do you think you know better?
South Carolina has finally made the decision to close schools for the next 2 weeks.
That being said, this was sent out to the Superintendents Association...
Says the CDC is updating its recommendations because they’re finding that “short to medium closures do not have the necessary effect... longer closures of 8-20 weeks will have a greater impact”
That being said, this was sent out to the Superintendents Association...
Says the CDC is updating its recommendations because they’re finding that “short to medium closures do not have the necessary effect... longer closures of 8-20 weeks will have a greater impact”