UK knows best as always it seems so good for you guys.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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Put it this way, I’d rather trust the Norwegian government...
I can't stand our arrogance. It's so pervasive at the moment.
What's an antibody? Same thing as vaccine?
Antibodies trigger the immune response before a pathogen can set up a base. Vaccination is a way to gain specific antibodies.
OK - so this is the stuff that goes into a vaccine? what is the implication of that article?
Something that kills the virus? It's what your body produces to beat up the virus cells. Or something, Im not a doctor.
Tell if I'm wrong, they are talking about the APN01(an anti SARS drug)?
I'm not really sure. Vaccinations usually cause your immune system to create the relevant antibodies, rather than artificially place them in you.
Maybe it's for an antiviral drug?
How come most countries are willing to save as many people over the economy at this stage? How come most other countries have the means to close schools? Why is it only the UK faces these unique problems?
Also the professors hobby project started 15 years ago. This led to a company that eventually found antibodies during the SARS1 outbreak. These remained untested at that time, but have now be found effective against SARS2 (aka Covid-2019).
The scenes in Costco are ridiculous. The amount of people buying toilet & kitchen roll is bad but bottled water... ffs!! The queue has stretched all round the store & it’s only been open 1 hour!
I would say it's the opposite.
We have 800 cases, but the PM admits that the real number is probably 10,000.
And whilst other countries are trying to beat the virus, the UK accepts that the virus is going to inevitably win (the CMO, Chris Whitty reckons up to 80% will catch it). The approach appears to be about mitigating the effects of covid-19 eventually overcoming our best efforts.
Every country fecked, but the UK are one of the few to admit it. It's more arrogant for others to think they can beat mother nature.
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What do you think is happening in France with half as much testing done as the UK with 3500 cases and 80 deaths out of 11-12k tested? Tests are being reserved for people who need it most everywhere, most people who become ill with mild symptoms are told self quarantine. UK testing is more and increases each day, it's not stopped. Why are people so keen to paint this false picture when we've tested more and found less currently.
You get some vague info from the UK and just run to the hills with it.
France recently announced school closures and we know this is from figures above which greatly differ from UK right now. Spain and with France behind them have some serious situations to contend with. UK might be there in 4 weeks but you must understand 80 deaths and 3500 cases out 11-12k and 800 cases and 11 deaths out of 32k is very different.
I wonder how much more money has been poured in/committed to the research labs working on this? The govts are lining up $10s of billions to support businesses but these are the guys who are going to really save lives if/when they find a cure. Now, more isn't necessarily going to make it quicker (there are only so many qualified experts) but surely, every effort must be made to make their jobs as easy as possible.
Which stage?
No other country shut down schools when the case rate was as low as it is in UK at the moment.
Ah my bad.
The strange part is that it's one of the drugs that have already been tested and are suspected to have some effects on it, so I don't really get the timing of that announcement. Currently there are at least four drugs that are supposed to have some effects and are tested APN01(SARS), Chloroquine(Malaria), Lopinavir/Ritonavir(HIV) and Remdesivir(Ebola).
Same. I stopped following the news two days ago. I mean it's just depressing and was giving me headaches. If you are fortunate enough to stay home/work from home then stay there.
Here in Czech Republic they reacted very quickly and responsibly. Everything closed down withing a week. Schools, restaurants, shops, pubs all the borders are closed, cant come in or out. Only things still open are grocery stores, pharmacies and petrol stations.
It's the Corporal Jones syndrome.... " don't panic, don't panic Captain Mainwaring "
Life expectancy in Italy is 82, and in most of Europe is below 80, so I would say majority of European citizens would be completely fine reaching 80 years. Life expectancy in my country is 77. Basically anyone who I know would be more than fine with reaching 70+. I, personally would be delighted if I live 75 years, anything other would be a bonus, I am sure many would agree.
I know this might lower the life expectancy in Italy for this year, but they already have one of the biggest life expectancies in Europe.
Can we stop with the childish cynicism please? It is useless and counterproductive.
They've also taken all of the baby wipes in the three supermarkets near me. Which is a massive problem since I actually have a baby that needs those wipes, so whilst he walks around with a shitty arsehole these dumb fecks are blocking their toilets with them.
wait unitl you are 74Life expectancy in Italy is 82, and in most of Europe is below 80, so I would say majority of European citizens would be completely fine reaching 80 years. Life expectancy in my country is 77. Basically anyone who I know would be more than fine with reaching 70+. I, personally would be delighted if I live 75 years, anything other would be a bonus, I am sure many would agree.
I know this might lower the life expectancy in Italy for this year, but they already have one of the biggest life expectancies in Europe.
What nonsense.
So shortsighted.
Are you aware then when they close schools a massive portion of the countries essential workforce will be out of the game? Doctors, nurses, paramedics, police, shop workers, pharmacy staff..
It can't be a decision taken lightly and needs to be timed in line with other measures to reduce the strain on the above services.
I dread to think what would happen if some of you lot ran the country. These aren't easy decisions to make and they have much wider repercussions than your local primary school.
It seems that Central European countries are trying to act wiser than most of the Western ones. And apparently it's us who are 'backward'.
That's not correct. In Bulgaria everything was shut down Friday with 31 cases (1 death) for a ~7M country.
wait unitl you are 74
Yeah, 75 would be disappointing. That said, our life expectancy in Norway is 82.5
Loads more counties acted more swiftly than us. That’s not up for dispute at all surely.
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The thing Western countries have over us is better health care potential, though.
Looking forward to this time next year standing in the Asda medicine aisle beside the cnut who took the last four pack of baby wipes out my trolley, when we're both picking up a pack of Lemsip Cold, Flu and Covid capsules, and having a good ol' laugh about the whole situation.
And then I'll smack him over the head with a fecking club.
And then I'll smack him over the head with a fecking club.
Genuine question is how much of the workforce would be impacted? I can’t imagine a particularly high number of families exist where the both/single parents work in part of the “essential workforce” who wouldn’t have other safe options for where to leave the kids.
A chocolate biscuit won't cut it, try a frozen chicken.