SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

ManchesterYoda said:
I think I might have just had Omicron yesterday, probably started the day before. Yesterday I felt tired and I had that body ache feeling you get whilst you are recovering after a cold. The one where you keep wanting to stretch like a cat? Today I feel back to normal. If I just felt tired yesterday I wouldn't even mention it but it's the combination of feeling tired and the body ache feeling along with the rapid spread throughout the world. So, it's definitely possible right? Mild is an understatement. I am 42, a smoker and unvaccinated. I'm just wondering why so many people are scared to death of Omicron? I've never been scared of this Covid at any point, but I can understand why some were scared at the beginning, assuming it was much more deadly. Why now though? Omicron is much milder and you've all been jabbed up to the eyeballs. Why are you still scared? Makes no sense to me!
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So you don’t know you’ve had it but because you might have and it was mild, nobody should be worried?

I don’t think people are scared to death of Omicron, but this is another kick in the dick after a nightmare 20-odd months for some people.

We don’t yet know how bad Omicron is - initial impressions is that it is milder but who’s to say the next wave won’t be worse - that is what scares people. The vaccines were touting as bringing an end to this shit but we’re not there yet!
 
ManchesterYoda said:
I think I might have just had Omicron yesterday, probably started the day before. Yesterday I felt tired and I had that body ache feeling you get whilst you are recovering after a cold. The one where you keep wanting to stretch like a cat? Today I feel back to normal. If I just felt tired yesterday I wouldn't even mention it but it's the combination of feeling tired and the body ache feeling along with the rapid spread throughout the world. So, it's definitely possible right? Mild is an understatement. I am 42, a smoker and unvaccinated. I'm just wondering why so many people are scared to death of Omicron? I've never been scared of this Covid at any point, but I can understand why some were scared at the beginning, assuming it was much more deadly. Why now though? Omicron is much milder and you've all been jabbed up to the eyeballs. Why are you still scared? Makes no sense to me!
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Can't speak for anyone else, but I'm scared because Delta nearly killed my kid brother. I guess your mileage may vary.
 
ManchesterYoda said:
I think I might have just had Omicron yesterday, probably started the day before. Yesterday I felt tired and I had that body ache feeling you get whilst you are recovering after a cold. The one where you keep wanting to stretch like a cat? Today I feel back to normal. If I just felt tired yesterday I wouldn't even mention it but it's the combination of feeling tired and the body ache feeling along with the rapid spread throughout the world. So, it's definitely possible right? Mild is an understatement. I am 42, a smoker and unvaccinated. I'm just wondering why so many people are scared to death of Omicron? I've never been scared of this Covid at any point, but I can understand why some were scared at the beginning, assuming it was much more deadly. Why now though? Omicron is much milder and you've all been jabbed up to the eyeballs. Why are you still scared? Makes no sense to me!
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Are you going to self isolate then? I can kind of guess what the answer to that is going to be given your other posts in this thread but I'm still intrigued.
 
ManchesterYoda said:
I think I might have just had Omicron yesterday, probably started the day before. Yesterday I felt tired and I had that body ache feeling you get whilst you are recovering after a cold. The one where you keep wanting to stretch like a cat? Today I feel back to normal. If I just felt tired yesterday I wouldn't even mention it but it's the combination of feeling tired and the body ache feeling along with the rapid spread throughout the world. So, it's definitely possible right? Mild is an understatement. I am 42, a smoker and unvaccinated. I'm just wondering why so many people are scared to death of Omicron? I've never been scared of this Covid at any point, but I can understand why some were scared at the beginning, assuming it was much more deadly. Why now though? Omicron is much milder and you've all been jabbed up to the eyeballs. Why are you still scared? Makes no sense to me!
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Do you have your PCR test result yet? Remember to stay isolated for the next ten days. Try not to kill anyone (or their grannies, their pregnant wives, their kid brother going through cancer treatment, their unlucky pal who thought he was safe) while you're still infectious.
 
P-Ro said:
Are you going to self isolate then? I can kind of guess what the answer to that is going to be given your other posts in this thread but I'm still intrigued.
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I'm not someone who is out gallivanting all the time anyway, I am not working at the moment and my next job will probably be after Christmas now. My family and me will all be celebrating Christmas no matter what just like Boris and his friends will be doing. Aside from Christmas, I will be at home whether I am sick or not.
 
jojojo said:
Do you have your PCR test result yet? Remember to stay isolated for the next ten days. Try not to kill anyone (or their grannies, their pregnant wives, their kid brother going through cancer treatment, their unlucky pal who thought he was safe) while you're still infectious.
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The only test I would ever take is the saliva test but I don't know if that's available. I don't stick things up my nose into my brain.
 
ManchesterYoda said:
I think I might have just had Omicron yesterday, probably started the day before. Yesterday I felt tired and I had that body ache feeling you get whilst you are recovering after a cold. The one where you keep wanting to stretch like a cat? Today I feel back to normal. If I just felt tired yesterday I wouldn't even mention it but it's the combination of feeling tired and the body ache feeling along with the rapid spread throughout the world. So, it's definitely possible right? Mild is an understatement. I am 42, a smoker and unvaccinated. I'm just wondering why so many people are scared to death of Omicron? I've never been scared of this Covid at any point, but I can understand why some were scared at the beginning, assuming it was much more deadly. Why now though? Omicron is much milder and you've all been jabbed up to the eyeballs. Why are you still scared? Makes no sense to me!
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Ooh you're hard.

Or a dope. Or both.
 
ManchesterYoda said:
The only test I would ever take is the saliva test but I don't know if that's available. I don't stick things up my nose into my brain.
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Stop being such a pussy.

The swab goes nowhere near your brain anyway. My 12 year old has had two tests without blinking an eye. He would piss himself if he thought a fully grown man was too scared to do the same.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Feeling a bit tired and having mildly achey muscles then telling everyone this is evidence that omicron is mild has to be a new low for this thread.
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And then saying he won't have a PCR test. An incredible lack of self-awareness.
 
choccy77 said:
15 minute observation?

I've had 2 jabs and i was in and out in 1 half minutes maximum.

Think my mum and dad only at the beginning had that observation period on the first jabs.
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Its been inconsistently applied but with certain jabs its a 15 minute waiting period to wait in a distanced seated area to check for anaphylaxis or any reactions. Some times others were warned not to drive for that amount of time post-jab but for me personally I've been involved in vaccinating older patients in care homes etc as a GP and that post-jab observation period is a significant rate/jab limiting step
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Feeling a bit tired and having mildly achey muscles then telling everyone this is evidence that omicron is mild has to be a new low for this thread.
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It’s baffling. Can’t prove I had it because I don’t believe in testing, but I had something - which must have been omicron (because no other viruses or whatever exist in the world) - and therefore I’ll just go about telling everyone how mild it is. I don’t like to attack the poster, but surely there have to be some very rare exceptions?!
 
Just watching a bit of the Peter Mccullough thing with Joe Rogan. Worst people in this pandemic have been the credentialed doctors, scientists etc who've spouted dangerous unscientific nonsense, for various reasons. Disagreement are fine but some have genuinely endangered lives through providence legitimacy to vaccine and mask denialism.
 
ManchesterYoda said:
I think I might have just had Omicron yesterday, probably started the day before. Yesterday I felt tired and I had that body ache feeling you get whilst you are recovering after a cold. The one where you keep wanting to stretch like a cat? Today I feel back to normal. If I just felt tired yesterday I wouldn't even mention it but it's the combination of feeling tired and the body ache feeling along with the rapid spread throughout the world. So, it's definitely possible right? Mild is an understatement. I am 42, a smoker and unvaccinated. I'm just wondering why so many people are scared to death of Omicron? I've never been scared of this Covid at any point, but I can understand why some were scared at the beginning, assuming it was much more deadly. Why now though? Omicron is much milder and you've all been jabbed up to the eyeballs. Why are you still scared? Makes no sense to me!
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This is the premise for a story that ends up with me gleefully posting a tragic article in the covidiots thread.
 
Wolverine said:
Just watching a bit of the Peter Mccullough thing with Joe Rogan. Worst people in this pandemic have been the credentialed doctors, scientists etc who've spouted dangerous unscientific nonsense, for various reasons. Disagreement are fine but some have genuinely endangered lives through providence legitimacy to vaccine and mask denialism.
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Yeah, you can’t really go through medical training without realising we have as many bell ends in our ranks as any other profession. Still, though, it takes quite the fecking outlier on the asshole spectrum to knowingly peddle dangerous bullshit like those guys.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Stop being such a pussy.

The swab goes nowhere near your brain anyway. My 12 year old has had two tests without blinking an eye. He would piss himself if he thought a fully grown man was too scared to do the same.
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Very amusing. I didn't say I was to scared to put things up my nose into my brain, I said I don't stick things up my nose into my brain. I used to probably when I was a toddler. They only reason you all happily oblige is because you are told to and so you do. It isn't necessary, but still you do it, for no reason. Saliva tests exist. It isn't necessary to stick something up your nose and that's why I don't do it. I don't go around with a "I'm hard, Covid don't scare me!" tough guy mentality, I go around with a "why are you all so scared?" bewildered mentality. Why are shoving things up your nose? Why are you walking through the park with a mask on? Why do you keep getting injections? I genuinely don't understand why you don't question anything.
 
ManchesterYoda said:
Very amusing. I didn't say I was to scared to put things up my nose into my brain, I said I don't stick things up my nose into my brain. I used to probably when I was a toddler. They only reason you all happily oblige is because you are told to and so you do. It isn't necessary, but still you do it, for no reason. Saliva tests exist. It isn't necessary to stick something up your nose and that's why I don't do it. I don't go around with a "I'm hard, Covid don't scare me!" tough guy mentality, I go around with a "why are you all so scared?" bewildered mentality. Why are shoving things up your nose? Why are you walking through the park with a mask on? Why do you keep getting injections? I genuinely don't understand why you don't question anything.
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Has it, perhaps, occurred to you that maybe we all have questioned everything, but then also critically assessed the various scientific data points available to make informed and reasoned conclusions?

In yet more of your contradictory logic, you assume most of us are scared of Covid yet suddenly get defensive if someone said you’re scared of a PCR swab.

I’ve never seen such ….. logic, let’s say.
 
ManchesterYoda said:
Very amusing. I didn't say I was to scared to put things up my nose into my brain, I said I don't stick things up my nose into my brain. I used to probably when I was a toddler. They only reason you all happily oblige is because you are told to and so you do. It isn't necessary, but still you do it, for no reason. Saliva tests exist. It isn't necessary to stick something up your nose and that's why I don't do it. I don't go around with a "I'm hard, Covid don't scare me!" tough guy mentality, I go around with a "why are you all so scared?" bewildered mentality. Why are shoving things up your nose? Why are you walking through the park with a mask on? Why do you keep getting injections? I genuinely don't understand why you don't question anything.
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wait so you genuinely think it goes into your brain?
 
ManchesterYoda said:
I think I might have just had Omicron yesterday, probably started the day before. Yesterday I felt tired and I had that body ache feeling you get whilst you are recovering after a cold. The one where you keep wanting to stretch like a cat? Today I feel back to normal. If I just felt tired yesterday I wouldn't even mention it but it's the combination of feeling tired and the body ache feeling along with the rapid spread throughout the world. So, it's definitely possible right? Mild is an understatement. I am 42, a smoker and unvaccinated. I'm just wondering why so many people are scared to death of Omicron? I've never been scared of this Covid at any point, but I can understand why some were scared at the beginning, assuming it was much more deadly. Why now though? Omicron is much milder and you've all been jabbed up to the eyeballs. Why are you still scared? Makes no sense to me!
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I think I might have had a touch of the old measles yesterday. You know the type that makes you rip all your clothes off and howl at the moon like a wolf. Anyway, I'm right as rain today. It was defo measles too - Why's everyone so fecking scared of measles?
 
ManchesterYoda said:
Very amusing. I didn't say I was to scared to put things up my nose into my brain, I said I don't stick things up my nose into my brain. I used to probably when I was a toddler. They only reason you all happily oblige is because you are told to and so you do. It isn't necessary, but still you do it, for no reason. Saliva tests exist. It isn't necessary to stick something up your nose and that's why I don't do it. I don't go around with a "I'm hard, Covid don't scare me!" tough guy mentality, I go around with a "why are you all so scared?" bewildered mentality. Why are shoving things up your nose? Why are you walking through the park with a mask on? Why do you keep getting injections? I genuinely don't understand why you don't question anything.
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People who stick swabs up their nose are asking the very simple question: Have I got Covid? Too big a question for you apparently.
 
ManchesterYoda said:
Very amusing. I didn't say I was to scared to put things up my nose into my brain, I said I don't stick things up my nose into my brain. I used to probably when I was a toddler. They only reason you all happily oblige is because you are told to and so you do. It isn't necessary, but still you do it, for no reason. Saliva tests exist. It isn't necessary to stick something up your nose and that's why I don't do it. I don't go around with a "I'm hard, Covid don't scare me!" tough guy mentality, I go around with a "why are you all so scared?" bewildered mentality. Why are shoving things up your nose? Why are you walking through the park with a mask on? Why do you keep getting injections? I genuinely don't understand why you don't question anything.
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Oh Jesus H Christ, we've got another one!

I'm curious, what makes you think you know more than the medical/scientific community?
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Yes. Although likely less susceptible than anyone else. The lab data on omicron has “hybrid immunity” (infection + vaccine) giving the best protection. Although still a long way below 100%.
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I read that vaxxed plus booster at 5/6 months was as good/better still.

I also read that while Omicron evades vaxxes more in terms of initial infection memory cells are working just as well as with other variants.

Then there is that study that suggested Omicron invades nasal cells 70 x faster than Delta but lung cells 10 x slower. If true it could be a game changer as inflammation of lung cells is the big killer.

It is the hope (wait) that kills you (well disease kills you but the point remains).
 
In fairness lads he's probably stuck a few too many things up his nose into his brain at this point.
 
Shakesey said:
Do other countries also do wastewater analysis for viral particles? Through analysis we predicted the wave one week before positive cases were reported.
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We do in Australia but it was far more useful when we had virtually eradicated. Then any detection meant we knew someone was infected in an area and could ramp up testing there.
 
ManchesterYoda said:
Very amusing. I didn't say I was to scared to put things up my nose into my brain, I said I don't stick things up my nose into my brain. I used to probably when I was a toddler. They only reason you all happily oblige is because you are told to and so you do. It isn't necessary, but still you do it, for no reason. Saliva tests exist. It isn't necessary to stick something up your nose and that's why I don't do it. I don't go around with a "I'm hard, Covid don't scare me!" tough guy mentality, I go around with a "why are you all so scared?" bewildered mentality. Why are shoving things up your nose? Why are you walking through the park with a mask on? Why do you keep getting injections? I genuinely don't understand why you don't question anything.
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I’ve got questions, why don’t you want your nose swabbed? Do you really believe it touches your brain? Wouldn’t you want to know if your passing on a potentially deadly virus?
 
christy87 said:
I’ve got questions, why don’t you want your nose swabbed? Do you really believe it touches your brain? Wouldn’t you want to know if your passing on a potentially deadly virus?
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It wasn’t deadly for him, so it can’t be deadly for anyone else. That’s his thought process.
 
Shakesey said:
Do other countries also do wastewater analysis for viral particles? Through analysis we predicted the wave one week before positive cases were reported.
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The UK does, the basic results for omicron are summarised in:
https://assets.publishing.service.g...t_data/file/1042046/Technical_Briefing_32.pdf
They collect and test from lots of places every week but they're mostly looking at how incidence levels vary over time and how those relate to the stats that are being collected testing people, with a hope they can use wastewater monitoring for early warning. Nationally, they then go on to sequence the samples from about 1000 sites per week.

They found omicron at 5 locations w/c 22 Nov, and it was found 33 sites in w/c 29th Nov. It's probably in more or less all of them now.
 
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