Yes, 6pm.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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Yes, 6pm.
Yeah but we already know what it is as usual.
Yeah I was just reading the latest Sage predictions - highly likely an Omnicron wave will peak above 2k admissions a day - and they mentioned one of the big unknowns is we may have a Delta wave and an Omnicron wave occurring within different cohorts simultaneously - hopefully not!
It does mention in that leaked report on the BBC that the scale of the hospitalisations is completely unknown. SAGE have a tendency to go for the worst case scenario, and their models have been found to be some way out of late.
this should be extremely obvious, but the problem is that it's the govt setting the very rules that it's breaking.
They’ll have numerous different models - it’s very difficult to predict this stuff at the moment as we have such little data on this variant. However, them saying “highly likely” means this isn’t the worst case scenario they’ve modelled.
“The BBC understands the estimates used by Sage are based on very early preliminary data and there is much uncertainty about the scale of any future Omicron wave and its impact on hospital admissions.
But the scientists say the peak of the wave is "highly likely to be higher" than 1,000 to 2,000 Omicron admissions per day without new rules to slow the spread of rising infections.”
Yeah, there’s a definite possibility that omicron’s main advantage over delta is immune escape and delta will remain dominant in the unvaccinated. Delta mopping up the low hanging fruit while omicron rips through everyone else.
Covid is obviously spreading mainly in schools amongst kids, but then they give it to the school staff, their parents and then on it goes. Workplaces or cinemas are not the problem. Schools is the elephant in the room.
Boris announces England moves to the Plan B controls including:
- Guidance to work from home will be reintroduced for those who can do so from Monday
- From this Friday, mandatory masks will be extended to most public venues, including theatres and cinemas
- From next week, the NHS Covid pass will be mandatory for entry into nightclubs and venues where larger crowds gather
It's amazing how this happens just as Christmas arrives when schools and a lot of workplaces will be off anyway. They'll say their measures were amazing and they worked 
Thanks for pointing out something extremely obvious. I might be a buffoon who needs to be talked to like a child, unable to process extremely obvious information, or I might've been making a different point to the one you read. Who knows. No need for intended meaning to get in the way of petty point scoring though, right?
Same rules that are in Scotland and Wales where it’s doubling at the same rate. Not sure this will slow it that much.
“Do as we say, not as we do”
Do what is right. Anyone who is looking to eejits like Boris for moral guidance are off their rockers. Since when has he been a role model? He literally walked through a hospital without a mask merely 3 weeks ago!
All these questions about the party are just irritating now. I get it. But I’d rather challenge and probe more on Omicron.
Yup. I’d have rather liked a question on what the early data is indicating regarding severity but instead all we got was party gate.
This is a much better question.
Not that Bojo is answering it, of course.
Wow. Home delivery of such a recently approved antiviral is a baller move. I think it’s probably a good decision too.
I can access the app fine, but it just gets to the page where it tells me how to get my domestic covid pass with text about the ways to get it, but nothing that you can use the app for which is the whole point of it. The whole system is typically bullshit cheap nonsense, how can we have these new restrictions if those of us who are vaccinated can't even get cleared now?
Typically shambolic.
Typically shambolic.
Nope, just takes me to the "how to get your covid pass" page. I've not fully logged in with all my details though, but you aren't supposed to have to for the covid pass for domestic events (which I've done in the past) so it can't be that. Unless they've fecked with it and not told us of course.
Time will tell but it does seem a very fleet footed and forward thinking idea.
Pretty much that. Blatant diversion tactic.
It sounds like you're either not logged in or you've not done the identity validation thing - you need photo ID etc for that.
I never had to do photo ID with mine but I know people who did
No, I am logged in. I won't take that personally btw
I haven't don't the identity part, but you don't have to do that do get a domestic pass.
There was an update a couple of days ago, I don't know if access to the domestic pass changed as part of that. I wanted access to both passes so I did the ID thing right from the start, so I wouldn't have noticed.No, I am logged in. I won't take that personally btw
I haven't don't the identity part, but you don't have to do that do get a domestic pass.
There are changes/updates underway though to the front end and the database so it could be temporary. Bits of it have just had the spinning loading thing and nothing happening at various times. It did flash up an updated terms and conditions thing the other day as well but I admit I didn't bother reading it
The law applies to all equally, but less equally to some
So new rules for indoor venues of 500 capacity and outdoor of 4,000.
Surely that’s all venues covered? What’s this ‘also for any venue with more than 10,000’?
Which venues are neither indoors nor outside?
Surely that’s all venues covered? What’s this ‘also for any venue with more than 10,000’?
Which venues are neither indoors nor outside?
Forget that - apparently a lot of people are getting the spinning/loading thing followed by that message. It's a loading/updating database issue.There was an update a couple of days ago, I don't know if access to the domestic pass changed as part of that. I wanted access to both passes so I did the ID thing right from the start, so I wouldn't have noticed.
There are changes/updates underway though to the front end and the database so it could be temporary. Bits of it have just had the spinning loading thing and nothing happening at various times. It did flash up an updated terms and conditions thing the other day as well but I admit I didn't bother reading it
It relates to seating arrangements I think.
My favourite bit was that having advised people to work from home if possible, he then suggested that work parties can go ahead as planned.
O. Ver. It.
feck you C-virus. I hate you. WTF. WT actual feck.
Ya bastard!
feck you C-virus. I hate you. WTF. WT actual feck.
Ya bastard!
Yeah. Kind of same old same old that the bloody thing doesn't work and wasn't ready for these restrictions.
Not really a shock with government websites/apps.
To be fair half the population probably did what you did and booted it up at the same time after the announcement just to see if it would work.
Probably. Though my missus did it because she's out tomorrow and wanted to make sure, that's why I tested it. Otherwise I wouldn't give a feck as I've never been asked to show it, even at football or gigs.
Still, wouldn't put it past them to slyly change it.
They haven't fix the app yet - they have fixed the error message. It now reads:
Please try again later
There are currently issues with accessing the Covid Pass on the NHS App and website. We are investigating the issue and will update as soon as we can.
*Cancels some annual leave booked over the next month*