You're right. I wonder whether what we're seeing now is worse than what would have resulted if we banned international travel to and from China for a few weeks. Put some control measures in play - screening at every possible destination and slowly opened the borders. Instead, we let the enemy infiltrate our systems with open arms.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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You're right. I wonder whether what we're seeing now is worse than what would have resulted if we banned international travel to and from China for a few weeks. Put some control measures in play - screening at every possible destination and slowly opened the borders. Instead, we let the enemy infiltrate our systems with open arms.
I don't want a pass
Then ask to be failed?
The update my firm got compared to the update other very similar firms in the same industry got, is a fairly cowardly little cop out.
I'll have to come in tomorrow.
I'll have to come in tomorrow.
Only if you think preventing the spread long term is possible, which lots of people don't. Countries that are seen as the gold standard now may just have their peak next winter.
Amateurs! Barely any toilet rolls in sight.
Well taking Ireland as an example, some people were demanding schools be closed when the first case was announced in a school back on the 29th of Feb. Since that time 42 further cases have been announced, most of which were unrelated to any schools and would not have been impacted at all by that measure.
So waiting until now to close the schools will certainly see the measure having a much greater impact and benefit. Which is important given there's a limit to the amount of of time parents can spend off work minding their kids without badly impacting essential services.
Also in terms of panic, it's hard to imagine that the gradual build up to to these measures has made things worse than suddenly announcing them from the start would have.
So in certain cases and with certain measures, delay has almost certainly been a big help. Though obviously that depends on the individual circumstances of each country.
Fair enough. As I'm not self employed I probably don't understand it as well as some. It was this particular case that slightly irked me.
I work for a university but am based at a government building. Business as usual at present but I suspect the Uni is going to close by Monday, what that does for us here is anybody's guess.
This is exactly what we didn't want to happen and makes sense as to why total lockdowns are probably going to be necessary everywhere.
My company are also massively fecking up at the moment. We're a manufacturing site and really the only guys who actually need to be there are the production operators (machinists etc).
But everyone from engineers to HR are still coming in. Now imagine if they have to stop production early, because some HR twat got it when he didn't even need to be in office to do his job? It's incredibly stupid. Even us engineers don't really need to be there, and if worst comes to worse we can get called in as of when something breaks down.
No panic buying of food or big queues at my local supermarket but the toilet rolls had gone.
Was thinking maybe I should buy some extra bits soon to put in the freezer.
Was thinking maybe I should buy some extra bits soon to put in the freezer.
Big press conference at Downing street by looks of it, lockdown measures?
i'm hoping my office doesn't change its mind on WFH if the government decides to take a lax approach.
Agree with you, it would irk me too. Someone who's been skiving paying their way for donkey's years suddenly expecting to be treated in the same way as those who do pay their own way. Victim complex, pure and simple. And no, that comment isn't aimed at self-employed people - I feel for them BIGTIME, but I have zero sympathy when someone gets their comeuppance for not paying tax like the vast majority of honest self-employed people.
My wife's tested negative thankfully. So hopefully none of my students give it to me.
Lots of meetings with big wigs in the college in Belfast today. Lot of talk about getting lists of student contacts ready, getting pay claims in ASAP, getting remote access sorted etc
I'm expecting communication later, or tomorrow at the latest that we'll be closing sites
I'm expecting communication later, or tomorrow at the latest that we'll be closing sites
It's probably worth having a bit of food set aside just in case you have to self isolate. If you don't end up needing to you then don't have to go shopping for a week or so win-win. Probably don't need 800 toilets rolls though...
Why are people so keen to be quarantined? Possibly prematurely? There’s a world outside of just managing the coronavirus which billions more of people depend upon for food, power, heating, medicine, etc.
If quarantine measures are not going to affect you and you can already adopt that kind of lifestyle, just go ahead and do it yourself. If you know best what is right for you and those who you are responsible for, just go ahead and make the changes you need.
Edit: affect/effect
They'll need their own thread once identified.
If this happens it's going to royally feck up my plans. I've got hand ins on April 2nd and Viva and Exams at the end of April then I'm done with Uni. I was planning on wrapping up and going back to work as soon as my hand ins are done but if it's extended and all our hand ins are pushed back to summer it's going to be a major headache.
Haha
because i imagine a lot of companies will base their decisions on government decisions.
Maybe everyone should have their own individual thread, just to be safe
Because not everyone has the freedom to do that? Companies are taking government advice..
Fair enough
Johnson press conference starting now.
Boris - "People are going to die"
It should not be a problem (at least in developed world). With DNA technology, everyone can have kids (as long as you have money) nowadays.If you wanted to engineer a virus which prunes the population, this would be it
First it targets the elderly and weak, then it aims to reduce population growth rates. Mother Nature has climate change under control after all.
No schools closing.
The main article is behind a paywall but you get the picture.
Seems every other country in Europe is wrong then and Boris is right.