Yes, this is the most important thing. If that 60% is middle aged and older folks who haven't been vaccinated, it makes a huge amount of sense but if that's younger people getting hospitalised it's very worrying, regardless of the fact they haven't been vaccinated.
The overall hospitalisation data gets split as U50/50+ and lags behind some of the other data they collate.
Ultimately it's the unvaccinated people that are likely to suffer most? If they don't want to take a vaccine I think they should have every right to make that choice without it limiting their social freedom.
No because those idiots transmit it to other people and with vaccines not being 100% effective we need absolutely everybody (unless medically incapable) to be vaccinated to stop it continuing to spread and mutate.
The overall hospitalisation data gets split as U50/50+ and lags behind some of the other data they collate.
This chart is Delta only and it only covers cases until 21st June. England opened the national booking system to the 50+ group in mid-March. Most Delta cases are May/June - the 60-65s were about 90% double vaxxed by then, and the over 70s were around 95%+.
Some health authorities etc have given more recent data since then. Generally the hospitalisations are skewing younger than before, with (of course) a disproportionate number of unvaxxed over 40s. One stat I did read (not sure which report it came from) is that the average age of a covid death is now 70, down from 82 in the last wave - which bizarrely enough is good news. If you're vaccinated.
.The indications are that the vaccines do not prevent transmission. Given around 90% of adults have had at least one dose and 66% have had both doses.
Came into work today and my area is 1 of the lads daughters getting a positive test away from us all being off for a week and potentially getting testedI mentioned it in another thread but my workplace did remarkably well during the first two waves, we probably had 2-3 people off with covid. People even remarked that it can’t be that serious as no one at work has it
The last two weeks we have had about 20 off with covid, including two this week already.
Isn't this all about reducing transmission rather than outright preventing it? Being double vaccinated will reduce the chances but it doesn't mean you can't be infected or pass on your infection to others.
Do you have a point? A lot of flip flopping going on.
You said I'm wrong with articles that agree with my point. The vaccine's don't rule out transmission.
95% including kids?
I said it doesn't prevent transmission, I never said it doesn't impact it.
I'm scared of taking a needle? Where have I said I won't or haven't taken the vaccine?
Agree with this. Plenty of crazy folk on talking nonsense on Facebook and the likes but you can't throw them all in the same bracket.
Of course it prevents transmission. No one is claiming it's 100% efficient at it. Maybe the word you're looking for is closer to eradication or elimination. Because prevention isn't the same as that.
Because 'my body, my choice' applies to things like tattoos or plastic surgery, that has no effect on the wider community. Choosing not to get a vaccination potentially takes away other people's freedoms. Like when we all inevitably have to go into another lockdown.
Again, just because someone is not in favour of mandating vaccines does not mean you think vaccines are there to harm people. I've had my first dose of the Pfizer vaccine for what it's worth and will have my second in a few weeks.
I originally put abortion in there, but realised that it'd be incorrect to state that abortion only affects the person getting the abortion. It can be a decision made jointly by a couple, for example.
It’s the minority’s choice
Their choice. But also other people’s choice to not let them in endangering others
