You should probably check with your doctor just in case, especially if your symptoms continue.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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I actually experienced the same thing a few weeks back when I had mine; a guy fainted in the room where the jabs were done and another guy was having a panic attack, both straight after having their jabs. I felt much better after being sick and was back to normal in a day or so but it was a strange experience.
yeah I spoke with them post vaccine and they said call 111 if it gets worse. It’s only been 12 hours since so if I feel terrible tomorrow too I’ll give them a ring.
Sorry to hear this, SW. I hope you feel much better after you've slept. x
This stuff is exactly what I expected to happen to me, but I was absolutely fine for the first time in my life getting an injection. Because of that, I got the docs to prescribe me a tranquilliser, but I'm fairly sure it kicked in afterwards, because I felt like I'd had 5 pints by the time I got home! Maybe worth asking what your GP can do for you before you go for your second dose.
I got a positive test on Thursday, a day before my first dose of the vaccine, after being deemed a close contact to a friend who was positive. Was a bit under the weather the last couple of days but feeling pretty grim today. Sore head and neck being the worst and just feeling pretty run down.
What shitty timing. I hope that's nearly the worst and you turn the corner soon.
Tired + dead arm after Pfizer would be very normal. Should only last 24 hours or so. Can take a day or two after the jab to kick in.
Get well soon
Interesting anecdotal news from the Sydney outbreak from the NSW Health Minister in terms of how infectious the delta strain can be an how important vaccination is.
My wife has just woken up next to me with a self isolate for 6 days notification. What do I have to do now? Do the same, or take myself off to another room for the 6 days? I can't go anywhere else.
She has to stay home etc. You don't, unless she develops symptoms.
Best if you don't have visitors etc and that you also avoid unnecessary contact with other people during her self-isolate period. As for heading to another room - well you can if you like, but it's probably too late now. Have you/her been vaccinated?
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coron...te-by-nhs-test-and-trace-or-the-covid-19-app/
I thought as much, thanks. I'll stay away from the office to be on the safe side, and I don't need to go out for anything else. We've gone into separate rooms anyway now.
We've both only had one dose, mine probably hasn't kicked in yet, it's been less than 21 days. So just have to hope that taking brews up every 5 minutes is the worst of it!
Very much so. I think a mix of the anxiety of getting a jab plus the effects of the jab exhausted me entirely.
Thanks all. I feel much better in terms of my body and general health today. Arm is still sore and I was sweating through most of the night but I think that helped a bit. Must have been one of the unlucky few to react bad to it.
Probably a sign you had a good immune response.
Don't forget your feeling of anxiety and sickness may also be attributed to those Benitez rumours, and nothing to do with the vaccination!
Multiple countries (e.g. Chile) recorded a rising case number after commencement of Sinovac vaccination, which were opposite to those regions using other vaccines. Now we have hundreds of vaccinated healthcare workers being infected, some require hospitalization. Aren't these reports sufficient to question the effectiveness of the vaccine, especially when the company refuses to formally publish data?
Of course the vaccine works. Like I've repeated again and again, Sinovac is better than nothing and I fully understand why it is a promising option (or the only option) for less wealthy countries. I don't blame them. I would have done the same if I were in the same position. What I'm accusing are those irresponsible companies, which fail to conduct a proper clinical trial and have no intention to perform follow-up study. They, together with the Chinese government, define a new low standard in the approval of medical intervention. It's pathetic to see people have to use unknown sources to support a vaccine, like @George Owen in #58210.
Imagine hundreds of healthcare workers, who thought they were protected, are actually infective and continue to serve patients, including the immunocompromised? It's more than fair to say the healthcare system is endangered. These underperforming vaccines, together with underperforming diagnostic kits, may be regarded as life-savers in the short term. But in the long run, they are the major obstacles in ending this pandemic.
Sadly, there will be health care workers all over the world being infected despite having been vaccinated, whichever vaccine they've had, as none are 100 efficient. My friend is a nurse here in the UK and she recently had it, despite being fully vaccinated.
Wouldn’t wish this virus on anyone. My girlfriend and I are both positive, and I’m completely floored. I can’t leave my bed. She’s been able to so far deal with our 2 year old son but is getting worse. Not sure what we’ll do.
I wish you and your girlfriend a speedy recovery.
As far as I am concerned, I am of those who wish the worst to my worst enemies.
Sorry to hear, I wish both of you a speedy recovery.
Sorry to give you some unsolicited advice, but it is time to make some plans for contingencies.
Are the parents of you or your girlfriend already vaccinated? Or close friends? Can one of them give some help in the household or take care of your son, so both of you can concentrate if neccessary on a speedy recovery?
Best wishes to to you and your girlfriend
Girlfriends mum has taken a test today if she’s negative we are considering sending him there. Would be worried though that we are just giving it to her as he must have it.
Yeah, you are probably right with your guess.
Is your girlfriends mum in a risk group? You have to consider that.
Any trustworthy neighbours that are vaccinated, to get some stuff or could help a few hours with your son? (And despite all the horror stories, the overwhelming majority of people are helpful and decent)
Are childcare/family services available where you live and are they decent?
In my area country, there is a possibility to get a family worker for a few hours a day, to check on your household and help with some basics.
Maybe worth a call? To give both of you some peace of my mind, if the situation worsens (Knock on wood)
Best wishes to both of you!
I got my vaccine last Friday the 18th, and tested positive for Covid the Thursday after. Talk about bad luck hahah, I must've got it a day or 2 after getting vaccinated.
It's not been too bad so far, just feel pretty sleepy in general and I've lost my sense of smell but otherwise I feel alright.
It's not been too bad so far, just feel pretty sleepy in general and I've lost my sense of smell but otherwise I feel alright.
Doubling time getting shorter in UK for some reason I don’t understand.
The Delta variant is a nasty one. Only the second jab offers good protection.
Strategy the first half of the year was to get everyone the first jab as fast as possible and now they want to speed up the second.
Especially as vaccines are not as scarce in Europe as before. Thanks to the Americans for that, as a lot of them are vaccine sceptics, unused/unwanted Moderna vaccines are made availabe to Europe/Buyers.
All of this was true 2 weeks ago. So none of this is unfortunately the correct answer.
Don't know how it was done in the UK, but the contracts supplying the additional Moderna vaccinces were confirmed end of last week/over the weekend.
So the timetables about the vaccination effort were updated yesterday/today by our government. You have to consider a certain delay for making contracts and updating the strategy by the bureaucrats.
Thanks for trying to help, but none of this has anything to do with my question
Sorry my mistake, misunderstood the question/topic.Thanks for trying to help, but none of this has anything to do with my question
SINOVAC IS GOOD VACCINE!
My country is one of the most advanced in terms of population vaccinated with both doses (mainly Sinovac and Pfizer), and the study of effectiveness finally came back. Although the Pfizer is a little bit more effective, SINOVAC is plenty good.
Results after 2 weeks of the second shot:
63.6% effective against symptoms.
87.3% effective against hospitalisation
90.0% effective against ICU admittance.
86.4% effective against death.
Don't buy the propaganda against the Chinese vaccines, they are good stuff.
Just take any vaccine available, unless you are young man, in which case try to avoid the Astra Zeneca.
Pfizer is not a little more effective than that, it’s substantially so. AZ is more than a little more effective than that, and you have no evidence on the comparative safety statistics, yet you’re recommending people avoid that and take Sinovac. That’s the propaganda, not because source A or B said so, but because the evidence demonstrates it.
No vaccine is 100% effective, that's why social distancing and personal hygeine should be maintained even after vaccination. Nonetheless, a vaccine with 50.66% efficacy (95% CI 35.75%-62.11%) means there are potentially 45 more being infected among 100 recipients compared to a vaccine with 95.0% efficacy (95% CI 90.3%-97.6%). Imagine these 45 people, who thought they were protected and lowered their vigilence, are actually infective and continue to spread the virus. And this is before we escalate the scale to thousands, or some of these people work in healthcare who closely contact immunocompromised patients on a daily basis. I started to worry about this long time ago, and now it seems to be happening right now.
Hopefully they'll get a second, more effective vaccine soon then.
That's the tricky point about Sinovac and Sinopharm, especially the former. They never conduct a proper clinical trial, never formally publish data in a peer-reviewed journal. They just stick to the cliche that they have performed phase 3 trial which shows their vaccines are effective and safe. All the so-called evidence is gathered by pieces or rumors from the press or the Internet.
Is the vaccine effective in the elderly age group? Probably but we are too lazy to recruit more subjects. Does it work against the delta variant? It seems so but we're not sure. This is exactly the attitude of these irresponsible companies. They wouldn't care as long as China is sponsoring them to ship these underperforming vaccines to less wealthy countries under vaccine diplomacy.
There is a data problem with results coming from ones of the big labs in Scotland - probably some undercount days, followed by an overcount and those haven't been assigned across the dates correctly yet. The bigger issue though it that the delta variant hit the north-west first and all the debate was about why was Bolton etc different. The simple answer was that it wasn't, it was just first - the delta variant is now running wider, but unfortunately just as fast.
Perfect storm really as it arrived just as vaccine rates in the oldest groups started to make people feel like it was all over, it's a faster spreading variant, the pubs etc are open and a lot of groups have to all practical purposes given up on the idea of social distancing.
Take a look at the heat map on:
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases?areaType=nation&areaName=England
It's currently a disease of the young, and most of them won't be hit that hard by it - people are bored by the restrictions and without seeing the death figures flying up in tandem with cases they aren't that worried. Combine the group mostly likely to be out mixing with the lowest vaccine rates and cases are bound to jump. Now throw school age kids into the mix and a lot of places will feel like it's (almost) business as usual.
If the modellers are right, and we can keep the vaccination rate up (across all regions/communities) then we basically hit a peak of hospitalisations in August before things calm down again. It's startling to see on the graphs but nothing that you wouldn't guess was happening based on what we know about the delta variant, the vaccines and the increased level of social/work/education mixing.
It's not a surprise to me that the young want it to be over, and will accept herd immunity by infection while they wait, especially as a lot of them whether due to education, work or home don't get a choice, and the 18+ are only just getting an option.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...e-as-covid-rates-go-sky-high-in-student-areas
I think you're mischaracterizing things a bit. The phase 3 trial results from Brazil were published in Lancet. Other results have come from the Chilean government, including the ones quoted above (which should have indicated source better).
Since the trials the levels of efficacy have shown to be lower than the vaccines used in the US and Europe. But back in January for a country like Brazil it was a choice between Sinovac or nothing at all. Only starting in June were AZ vaccines the most used in Brazil, and will mainly be AZ+Pfizer from here on out.
There's not really a pro-China stance of note in South America. Attitudes range more from neutral to suspicious. Certainly the traditional developed countries are given more credibility, so for example a vaccine approved by the US FDA or EU/UK equivalent can be granted approval for use in Brazil without local trials, but not for the Chinese equivalent. In the case of Sinovac however the trials had been conducted locally under supervision of the Brazilian FDA.
I'm not talking about effectiveness. It's about the blood clots. In my country, for all those under 40 years old who got the first AZ shot, their second shot is going to be the Pfizer one instead, because the AZ put some young males in the hospital with blood clots. (And it's not only in my country, many European countries took measures as well).
So, IF GIVEN THE CHANCE, just take another vaccine if you are a young man. If not, then just take the AZ of course. Chances are you will be Ok.
PS. In the last 2 weeks, Chile went from 60 thousand active cases, to 40 thousand active cases. ICU occupation also at it's lowest since early May. The situation starting to look better now that the majority of population had already their 2 shots. SINOVAC doesn't look too bad to me.
Well, she's bonkers.
Is there much info on re-infection? People who have had covid before, and getting it again...
Is it less severe? And I mean with evidence not theory.
PS I'm going with a final circuit breaker lockdown in September
Is it less severe? And I mean with evidence not theory.
PS I'm going with a final circuit breaker lockdown in September