SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

That’s grim but those stats on outcomes could be driven by hospitals/ICUs getting overwhelmed rather than a property of the virus. Patients getting admitted to ICUs later and sicker than they did when there was less pressure for resources.
A bit late to this, but yes this has a dramatic impact. Here in SA, extrapolating the number of cases from the mortality rate seen in some provinces during the second wave would imply an infection rate of well over 100% in these provinces. So this clearly implies a higher mortality rate for these provinces (generally the poorer and less resourced ones). Given the SA variant was the majority of cases in SA, it's unlikely the provinces had a higher mortality rate due to the variant but rather due to lack of resources.
 
It's shocking. The actions/inactions of one man have single-handedly caused the deaths of so many people, and there's no end in sight.

Imagine someone being willing to sacrifice all those lives for his own political ambitions - it's so wicked.

I would not be surprised if Bolsonaro faces legal consequences after his term ends. Other world leaders have also been callous or inactive in the face of the pandemic, but few have undermined their own authorities efforts like he has, fighting lockdowns ever step of the way.
 
It's shocking. The actions/inactions of one man have single-handedly caused the deaths of so many people, and there's no end in sight.

Imagine someone being willing to sacrifice all those lives for his own political ambitions - it's so wicked.
Absolutely mind blowing. Is he an anti-vaxxer or just plain stupid? Surely it can’t be politics because the people will vote him out on this one issue

Possibly may have happened in the US if trump had stuck to his guns.
 
Absolutely mind blowing. Is he an anti-vaxxer or just plain stupid? Surely it can’t be politics because the people will vote him out on this one issue

Possibly may have happened in the US if trump had stuck to his guns.
He is basically Trump on steroids. Far right, really stupid and believes in economy before all else, whether it be the deaths of his people, the amazon getting destroyed, whatever. He's a complete loon. It's sad that corruption had gotten so bad in Brazil that they felt their best choice was to elect this horrible excuse for a human being.

I work with a few Brazilian's and they can't believe what he's doing, but then, they were also telling me when he was voted in that it was a good thing and he'd fix all the problems they had. Could not believe what they were saying given what I'd read about him.
 
He is basically Trump on steroids. Far right, really stupid and believes in economy before all else, whether it be the deaths of his people, the amazon getting destroyed, whatever. He's a complete loon. It's sad that corruption had gotten so bad in Brazil that they felt their best choice was to elect this horrible excuse for a human being.

I work with a few Brazilian's and they can't believe what he's doing, but then, they were also telling me when he was voted in that it was a good thing and he'd fix all the problems they had. Could not believe what they were saying given what I'd read about him.
I used to date a Brazilian girl, they really are the best people.
 
This is all very interesting but can anybody tell me whether I'm going to get my holiday to Corfu in the middle of June?
 
It's shocking. The actions/inactions of one man have single-handedly caused the deaths of so many people, and there's no end in sight.

Imagine someone being willing to sacrifice all those lives for his own political ambitions - it's so wicked.
Worrying thing is there is still a year until the election. So Brazil are stuck with him until then
He's had 4 different health ministers
 
The way I'm hearing people talking about it, it feels like a significant number expect the pandemic is going to be over tomorrow.

And if these scientists can be believed, it actually will be.

Real-time modelling carried out by University College London indicates the UK should pass the critical threshold where the proportion of people who have protection against the virus either through vaccination, previous infection or natural immunity will hit 73.4% on Monday, 12 April.

I think we'll be finding out one way or another. This week is going to get a bit rowdy.
 
The way I'm hearing people talking about it, it feels like a significant number expect the pandemic is going to be over tomorrow.

And if these scientists can be believed, it actually will be.



I think we'll be finding out one way or another. This week is going to get a bit rowdy.

The pandemic won't be over in a the sense the virus is still effectively running wild on a global basis. But at least in the UK - based on current variants we know about - I think we're already at the stage where the virus isn't going to cause enough trouble to justify lockdowns and the most onerous of social distancing rules.
 
The way I'm hearing people talking about it, it feels like a significant number expect the pandemic is going to be over tomorrow.

And if these scientists can be believed, it actually will be.



I think we'll be finding out one way or another. This week is going to get a bit rowdy.
I think it's a wait and see moment. Israel has seen really good results from vaccination. Chile and the USA aren't really seeing much in terms of case rates falling and even the daily deaths numbers aren't looking that convincing.

The UK so far is seeing deaths falling rapidly and case numbers flattening or even falling (though Easter and school holidays may be impacting those). On herd immunity in the UK, there are a series of generous estimates (about the vaccines and the R rate) built into that model, so that's not necessarily a great way of thinking about it. Optimism is good though. But unless covid rates fall dramatically globally, a new wave with a new mutation is going to mean keeping a close eye on changes.

This adds a bit of flesh to the story:
https://www.theguardian.com/society...enough-what-we-can-learn-from-other-countries
 
Best figures today, only 7 deaths beating the 10 deaths last Sunday. Single figures not seen since September. Hopefully numbers stay extremely low despite the mass opening up this week.
 
Jesus India are getting totally battered now with nearly 170k new cases today.

Hopefully they can ramp up the dosing over the coming weeks.
 
Collected my free rapid tests earlier with no problem at all. Seems like they are available at quite a number of places.
 
Anyone see the video of all the traveler's rocking up to the Pfizer factory in Dublin in all their caravans and camper vans demanding vaccines? Couldn't make it up.
 
Anyone see the video of all the traveler's rocking up to the Pfizer factory in Dublin in all their caravans and camper vans demanding vaccines? Couldn't make it up.

Idiots. Don't they know that outlet stores are where Pfizer send their seconds and out of date stock at knock-down prices?
 
Nothing wrong with it. Nice to see people outside after a miserable 6 months.
Nothing wrong with it? The pm is still saying be cautious. The experts are still saying to socially distance. Standing practically on someone’s heels in a queue is far from what they are urging.
 
Ordered some lateral flow tests yesterday and they arrived this morning, very quick.

Negative :)
 
Just popped out to grab lunch, Piccadilly Gardens is heaving and there are people everywhere carrying multiple Primark bags in each hand.

What the feck is wrong with people getting all giddy to queue up to buy shit cheap clothes?
 
Just popped out to grab lunch, Piccadilly Gardens is heaving and there are people everywhere carrying multiple Primark bags in each hand.

What the feck is wrong with people getting all giddy to queue up to buy shit cheap clothes?

The queues for Primark blow my mind man. Absolute tramps buying that shit.