SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

The way skeptics are treated on social media and on sites like these ones, one might be forgiven for thinking that some people would be all for the vaccination of certain thoughts.
 
How would vaccinated people staying inside benefit anyone?

And the longer you wait to introduce a vaccine passport or similar the larger the admin nightmare when you do.

Vaccinated people can still spread it, as far as we currently know.
 
Wow. Just wow. One year later, and things like this are still happening.

The mystery case
However, further investigation is underway regarding a separate, third case of the variant identified in England, with health officials appealing to anyone who did not receive a result from a Covid test carried out on Feb. 12 or 13 to come forward.
“The individual did not complete their test registration card so follow-up details are not available,” the government noted.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/01/uk-search-mystery-person-infected-with-brazil-covid-variant.html
 
The way skeptics are treated on social media and on sites like these ones, one might be forgiven for thinking that some people would be all for the vaccination of certain thoughts.
Nothing wrong with scepticism, but some facts wouldn't go amiss - do you have any?

What we know covid has done in the UK is kill roughly roughly 1:500 of the population, weaken the economy, cause serious financial hardship to some people, and wreck most people's social and family lives. What we suspect is that it has also indirectly damaged the health (mental and physical) of millions and done massive harm to children's education - though we can't yet put numbers on those effects. What we also know is that a significant number of those infected with covid (even with mild symptoms) will go on to have further health problems, often for months (and who knows how far beyond).

We also know that for the majority of the population the quickest, simplest and safest way out of this is not to continue with more of the same - the deaths, lockdowns, illness cycle - it's to take an effective vaccine. I don't know if some jobs/venues/activities will start to ask for vaccination (or test) status - but unless your scepticism amounts to more than "I don't like the sound of it" then it's hard to suggest anything other than, "maybe you will need to stay in lockdown until the threat gets so low that other people feel safe to let you in."
 
I just saw that the UK has immunised 20 million people (presumably just the first shot) which is great news. Rather disturbingly the article said only about 75% of the 65+ years demographic have had a vaccination. Do we know what proportion of that 25% who refused the vaccine? Or is it just that they have started the next age group down before finishing the 65+ group?
They wasted one on this prick, sadly.

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The Northern Ireland assembly has had to delay their plan for coming out of lockdown. Who would’ve though those useless cnuts wouldn’t be able to do it on time? They’ve only had two months.
 
My body my choice! Right?!

Or is that not how it works with the far left when it doesn't suit their agenda?
Love how everything was a choice before but now its essentially going to be forced on you.

Someone getting an abortion doesn't potentially kill thousands of others. Someone not getting a vaccine could do that.
 
Someone getting an abortion doesn't potentially kill thousands of others. Someone not getting a vaccine could do that.

What if you aborted a child that would have grown up to be the scientist that cured cancer?
 
They wasted one on this prick, sadly.

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There must be a German word for the type of unhappiness that can only be derived from living in the shadow of a brilliant sibling.

I wonder if the relationship between Saul Goodman and Chuck McGill was based on those two.
 
From RTE

The latest report on Covid-19 cases from the Health Protection Surveillance Centre shows that there were 1,403 cases in children aged 12 years and younger, in the two weeks to 27 February.

Of these, 28 were admitted to hospital, but none were in intensive care units.

There were 589 cases among those aged 0-4 years, with 814 cases in those aged 5-12, while there were 710 cases in the 13-18 age group.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0301/1199998-covid19-ireland/

Glad we chose not to send our 2 back in today, based on the numbers locally.

@Pogue Mahone @acnumber9
 
From RTE



https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0301/1199998-covid19-ireland/

Glad we chose not to send our 2 back in today, based on the numbers locally.

@Pogue Mahone @acnumber9

What was the average cases per day over that two week period? About 1000/day? So that’s 1 in 10 cases in someone under 12. Considering how transmissible this new strain is within households I wouldn’t be too concerned about those numbers.

We also don’t know how many (if any) of those kids passed the virus on to an adult. It’s been assumed to be a relatively rare event, which is one of the main reasons why younger kids are thought to play a fairly minor role in spreading the virus.
 
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What was the average cases per day over that two week period? About 1000/day? So that’s 1 in 10 cases in someone under 12. Considering how transmissible this new strain is within households I wouldn’t be too concerned about those numbers.

We also don’t know how many (if any) of those kids passed the virus on to an adult. It’s been assumed to be a relatively rare event, which is one of the main reasons why younger kids are thought to play a fairly minor role in spreading the virus.
It would be a concern if they’re still less likely to show symptoms because that would suggest cases being missed more often though would it not?

I’m still not sure what they base that assumption on. Any reports I’ve seen are very scarce on why they believe that. It will be interesting to see it’s impact over the next month or so. Fingers crossed you’re right, we can’t really afford to get it wrong again.
 
It would be a concern if they’re still less likely to show symptoms because that would suggest cases being missed more often though would it not?

I’m still not sure what they base that assumption on. Any reports I’ve seen are very scarce on why they believe that. It will be interesting to see it’s impact over the next month or so. Fingers crossed you’re right, we can’t really afford to get it wrong again.

Yeah, we’ve an interesting experiment just started in Ireland. Two weeks with only the youngest kids back in school (<8) and no other changes to lockdown measures. After that we get two weeks with the 8-12’s back. Only after these four weeks will adults (other than teachers) be able to do anything different. It will be the first time we’ve ever seen the impact of primary schools on caseload in isolation. I’ll have some humble pie on stand bye, just in case!
 
What was the average cases per day over that two week period? About 1000/day? So that’s 1 in 10 cases in someone under 12. Considering how transmissible this new strain is within households I wouldn’t be too concerned about those numbers.

We also don’t know how many (if any) of those kids passed the virus on to an adult. It’s been assumed to be a relatively rare event, which is one of the main reasons why younger kids are thought to play a fairly minor role in spreading the virus.
Well previously we were told that there was no impact so I consider this a significant development. The figures per day around the last week have been around 700 per day. If I assume that for the 2 weeks it puts the impact for kids around 14% of cases
 
Yeah, we’ve an interesting experiment just started in Ireland. Two weeks with only the youngest kids back in school (<8) and no other changes to lockdown measures. After that we get two weeks with the 8-12’s back. Only after these four weeks will adults (other than teachers) be able to do anything different. It will be the first time we’ve ever seen the impact of primary schools on caseload in isolation. I’ll have some humble pie on stand bye, just in case!
Scotland has already started this. P1-P3 went back on the 22nd of February.
 
Well previously we were told that there was no impact so I consider this a significant development. The figures per day around the last week have been around 700 per day. If I assume that for the 2 weeks it puts the impact for kids around 14% of cases

We were never told there was no impact. Kids have been getting covid since day one. The argument has been that they’re picking it up at home and not spreading it from household to household (in general, obviously there are exceptions) We’ll get a better idea if this is true by the end of this month. This new variant is ridiculously contagious so you couldn’t ask for a more rigorous test.
 
Cool. How are your numbers looking, one week in?
I’ll have a look for the numbers. I do know anecdotally that a school closed one day in because one of the kids came back in with a cough and infected at least 3 staff so that whole school and everyone in it is in isolation. Good times.
 
Someone getting an abortion doesn't potentially kill thousands of others. Someone not getting a vaccine could do that.

Well, methinks you stack the potentialities in your favour here. One can equally argue that by eliminating an unborn child, you kill thousands, if not millions, of its potential offspring.
 
Well, methinks you stack the potentialities in your favour here. One can equally argue that by eliminating an unborn child, you kill thousands, if not millions, of its potential offspring.

You can’t ‘kill’ a theoretical child. Spreading covid by not taking the vaccine could kill actual living people.
 
Well, methinks you stack the potentialities in your favour here. One can equally argue that by eliminating an unborn child, you kill thousands, if not millions, of its potential offspring.

It’s possible to split the embryo at an early stage of development, giving you twins. So one can equally argue that not doing this is killing billions of potential offspring.
 
It’s possible to split the embryo at an early stage of development, giving you twins. So one can equally argue that not doing this is killing billions of potential offspring.
Won’t somebody please think of the children?
 
It’s possible to split the embryo at an early stage of development, giving you twins. So one can equally argue that not doing this is killing billions of potential offspring.

Oh the calamity!