SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

If everybody that finds them self positive quarantines them self this could be the end of it.
As long as its cheap, so everyone can go and do it.

Yes, i think this is the first step in easy mass availability. There are vending machines in NY now as well...

 
Yes, i think this is the first step in easy mass availability. There are vending machines in NY now as well...


Very good news. This could stop the spread and make it die out. Then again a thousand machines for the whole country isnt much. If it takes more than a year then the vaccines might beat them to it.
 
Long may it continue.

I had a random though/concern if the virus has escaped. As WA hadn't had a case in 10 months I was wondering if their contract tracing capacity would be up to the job? NSW probably has the best contact tracing and they helped Vic get up to speed in their outbreak. I hope NSW and Vic can help if required.

16,400 tests conducted in WA, no new cases. all close contacts still testing negative. so far so good.
 
16,400 tests conducted in WA, no new cases. all close contacts still testing negative. so far so good.

I saw that. Great news. Fingers crossed the remaining close contact tests come back negative and they all remain there.

Are you in Perth? Sounds like the city is coping it from bushfire smoke.
 
I saw that. Great news. Fingers crossed the remaining close contact tests come back negative and they all remain there.

Are you in Perth? Sounds like the city is coping it from bushfire smoke.
Whole city is very muggy and ash falling. Fire is basically north east of everything and the wind is blowing it straight across.
 
I saw that. Great news. Fingers crossed the remaining close contact tests come back negative and they all remain there.

Are you in Perth? Sounds like the city is coping it from bushfire smoke.

i'm SOR but commute everyday to CBD (WFH this week), colleagues saying CBD was raining ash and closer (Bennett Springs) it was basically like snowfall.

Theres also now a cyclone. So Western Australia is currently dealing with UK-variant COVID, massive bush fire, northern cyclone :lol:
 
i'm SOR but commute everyday to CBD (WFH this week), colleagues saying CBD was raining ash and closer (Bennett Springs) it was basically like snowfall.

Theres also now a cyclone. So Western Australia is currently dealing with UK-variant COVID, massive bush fire, northern cyclone :lol:

As someone on here famously said (I forget who) "It's not a light at the end of the tunnel, it is a train covered in spiders".
 
Have you ever been to the Isle of Man?
London in the strictest lockdown ever is still better than the Isle of Man.
I love it there. The people are a bit weird, but the countryside is great. I did once upset a local by referring to "the mainland" instead of saying "across."

I would imagine that it's relatively easy to close off a tiny island from the rest of the world.
 
I am going to sound like an absolute prick for questioning this but why is Tom Moore’s family to be at his bedside in hospital while he battles pneumonia and covid whilst most peoples families are completely banished from hospital whilst their loved ones receive treatment?

I know he’s become a national treasure for his fundraising efforts but why does his family get special treatment...?
 
I am going to sound like an absolute prick for questioning this but why is Tom Moore’s family to be at his bedside in hospital while he battles pneumonia and covid whilst most peoples families are completely banished from hospital whilst their loved ones receive treatment?

I know he’s become a national treasure for his fundraising efforts but why does his family get special treatment...?

One for the hypernormalisation thread. Elevate someone to saint like status because of the incredible example they set and then proceed to treat them as privileged.
 
I love it there. The people are a bit weird, but the countryside is great. I did once upset a local by referring to "the mainland" instead of saying "across."

I would imagine that it's relatively easy to close off a tiny island from the rest of the world.

I've been there numerous times for work and several friends/colleagues live there. It is like walking back in time to the 1980s. Its OK for a few days, but I couldn't live there.
They didn't have any restrictions for ages over the winter when we all did, everything was back to normal. Then 7 cases happened and they went into lockdown. I would guess its probably the easiest place in the world to isolate. Less people live there than Purley!
 
Headline below, but this snippet stood out.

"The new South Africa variant, which is more transmissible than the original virus, appears to show a slightly “diminished” response to vaccines, and may eventually require a booster shot, Public Health England (PHE) said."

Thousands in England to be tested in 'sprint' to halt South African Covid variant
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...-destruction-of-nature-presents-extreme-risks
 
I am going to sound like an absolute prick for questioning this but why is Tom Moore’s family to be at his bedside in hospital while he battles pneumonia and covid whilst most peoples families are completely banished from hospital whilst their loved ones receive treatment?

I know he’s become a national treasure for his fundraising efforts but why does his family get special treatment...?
I also seen he got it from a holiday to Barbados?
 
I also seen he got it from a holiday to Barbados?
He certainly seems to have been to Barbados with his family recently. Whether he got covid on that trip or after he returned might be a different matter.
 
I am going to sound like an absolute prick for questioning this but why is Tom Moore’s family to be at his bedside in hospital while he battles pneumonia and covid whilst most peoples families are completely banished from hospital whilst their loved ones receive treatment?

I know he’s become a national treasure for his fundraising efforts but why does his family get special treatment...?

I thought exactly the same. Having said that, the exception to the rule is when the patient is at "end of life" but is normally restricted to a couple of family members one at a time which the stories don't seem to insinuate the latter.

Edit- I'm not sure if the end of life rule includes coranavirus patients or not?
 
I thought exactly the same. Having said that, the exception to the rule is when the patient is at "end of life" but is normally restricted to a couple of family members one at a time which the stories don't seem to insinuate the latter.

Edit- I'm not sure if the end of life rule includes coranavirus patients or not?

Yeah I’d heard a lot of stories of families having to say goodbye via iPad/video call etc.

I feel like shit trying to say he shouldn’t have his family by his side, but I am totally against people flexing rules because of his status, especially when mainstream media can then report that he has family at his bedside when others are simply deniedthat right. It just doesn’t sit well.
 
I thought exactly the same. Having said that, the exception to the rule is when the patient is at "end of life" but is normally restricted to a couple of family members one at a time which the stories don't seem to insinuate the latter.

Edit- I'm not sure if the end of life rule includes coranavirus patients or not?
How many 1000s of families have had to put up with an iPad for a few minutes, or just a phone call? Rightly or wrongly he'll be getting preferential treatment. Same at Christmas when he was apparently in tier 4 and others there had Christmas alone whilst he went on holiday with his family.

It is possible to both wish him all the best but also say he shouldn't have preferential treatment or gone on holiday..
 
I thought exactly the same. Having said that, the exception to the rule is when the patient is at "end of life" but is normally restricted to a couple of family members one at a time which the stories don't seem to insinuate the latter.

Edit- I'm not sure if the end of life rule includes coranavirus patients or not?
It does now.
 
Yeah I’d heard a lot of stories of families having to say goodbye via iPad/video call etc.

I feel like shit trying to say he shouldn’t have his family by his side, but I am totally against people flexing rules because of his status, especially when mainstream media can then report that he has family at his bedside when others are simply deniedthat right. It just doesn’t sit well.

I've also read about families being allowed into hospital with no celebrity or wealth status. Must depend on some other factors like age, location and the doctors and nurses etc. If particularly moved they could make an exception if able. A couple of the cases I read were very old patients.
 
Yeah I’d heard a lot of stories of families having to say goodbye via iPad/video call etc.

I feel like shit trying to say he shouldn’t have his family by his side, but I am totally against people flexing rules because of his status, especially when mainstream media can then report that he has family at his bedside when others are simply deniedthat right. It just doesn’t sit well.

The closing of ranks around him r.e. the Barbados trip is another particularly good example of how the media reacts differently depending on who did it. It might not have been illegal at the time, but he was 100 years old and the advice since March has been to avoid all but essential travel. It's a monumentally stupid risk.

There needs to be some degree of nuance between 'this isn't illegal, therefore it's fine' and 'there's a fecking global pandemic on, maybe we shouldn't pack our 100 year old relatives onto aeroplanes and fly them to the Caribbean'.
 
How accurate is that nhs covid app?

Its just pinged this morning saying I've been in contact with somebody that has covid and need to isolate for 8 days.

I've only been to work, the same people I've worked with for the whole pandemic with no issue.
The mother in law got pinged. They've been pretty much in since March. Only going to the shop once a week.
 
"The eight postcode areas are W7, N17 and CR4 in London, WS2 in Walsall, ME15 in Kent, EN10 in Hertfordshire, GU21 in Surrey and PR9 in Lancashire."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...iant-of-covid-found-in-eight-areas-of-england

I'm in ME15, waiting for the knock on my door. But I don't think were going to get one. The boundary they've put up on the Kent website doesn't cover us. Mad though that there's a Morrisons, smack bang on the border of the boundary, surely people from both side will have been going in
 
I'm in ME15, waiting for the knock on my door. But I don't think were going to get one. The boundary they've put up on the Kent website doesn't cover us. Mad though that there's a Morrisons, smack bang on the border of the boundary, surely people from both side will have been going in
Yeah, I guess they will gain useful information from the tests on numbers and spread but it would take a far stronger lockdown to actually contain it. And too late now anyway I would think.
 
Yeah, I guess they will gain useful information from the tests on numbers and spread but it would take a far stronger lockdown to actually contain it. And too late now anyway I would think.
I just had a message from the management company of the block where we have a flat. Everyone there's about to get a test kit, but it didn't suggest you should self-isolate until the result comes back. Might have been sensible, under the unusual circumstances.

Of course, those blocks for older people are at risk because there are a good number of people who receive visits from carers and nurses every day. There are people coming in and out all the time.
 
That’s the E484K mutation. The one they’re blaming for the vaccine resistance in South Africa. Makes banning travel from South Africa irrelevant if you can grow your own identical mutation at home!

That is concerning. This data was drawn from 26 January (at which stage the E484K spike protein mutation had been detected in 11 B1.1.7 sequences), so one might assume that, a week later it could be more widespread than we know.
 
I'm in ME15, waiting for the knock on my door. But I don't think were going to get one. The boundary they've put up on the Kent website doesn't cover us. Mad though that there's a Morrisons, smack bang on the border of the boundary, surely people from both side will have been going in

My office is in the ME15 postcode. It’s at about 40% capacity with people going to Morrison’s at lunch etc. This variant will be all over Kent if it isn’t already.
 
I love it there. The people are a bit weird, but the countryside is great. I did once upset a local by referring to "the mainland" instead of saying "across."

I would imagine that it's relatively easy to close off a tiny island from the rest of the world.
In what way? I've always been curious about the place.