SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Wibble said:
No more positives today although of course there may be people infected who won't produce a positive test for a few days yet. By this afternoon all 66 of his close contacts will be in quarantine hotels (slightly ironically).
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and 11 close contacts currently testing negative.
 
WPMUFC said:
and 11 close contacts currently testing negative.
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Long may it continue.

I had a random though/concern if the virus has escaped. As WA hadn't had a case in 10 months I was wondering if their contract tracing capacity would be up to the job? NSW probably has the best contact tracing and they helped Vic get up to speed in their outbreak. I hope NSW and Vic can help if required.
 
Wibble said:
Long may it continue.

I had a random though/concern if the virus has escaped. As WA hadn't had a case in 10 months I was wondering if their contract tracing capacity would be up to the job? NSW probably has the best contact tracing and they helped Vic get up to speed in their outbreak. I hope NSW and Vic can help if required.
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considering he's showing symptoms now, i'm actually kind of shocked the housemates are still clear.
 
Sweet Square said:
The guy went on Barbados with his family just before christmas.

fecking mad whoever thought that was a good idea.
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Tbf at 100 years old it's not like he's gonna have a huge amount of time left with or without COVID. If I was offered a free family holiday to Barbados at that point I'd probably think feck it and enjoy myself while I still can.
 
sullydnl said:
Tbf at 100 years old it's not like he's gonna have a huge amount of time left with or without COVID. If I was offered a free family holiday to Barbados at that point I'd probably think feck it and enjoy myself while I still can.
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Yeah, but if he was a 30 year old nobody he’d probably be getting called a murderer on here for the people he could spread it to.
 
sullydnl said:
Tbf at 100 years old it's not like he's gonna have a huge amount of time left with or without COVID. If I was offered a free family holiday to Barbados at that point I'd probably think feck it and enjoy myself while I still can.
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Fair point. From his own view I can sort of get why but if I was a family member I don't think I could agree to it(A part from the nicer weather, can you really do anything different in lockdown Barbados than in lockdown Britain ?). Also isn't dying from covid like a horrible way to go out ?

Plus the guy was basically a national treasure, it's not great for the general public to see him pissing off on holiday during a global pandemic.

acnumber9 said:
Yeah, but if he was a 30 year old nobody he’d probably be getting called a murderer on here for the people he could spread it to.
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That influencer lady last week living in Dubai, rightful got a ton of shit but she was basically doing the same thing.
 
Anybody who’s had Covid get really itchy skin? It’s driving me bonkers. I’ve historically had quite dry skin but it doesn’t normally cause any problems, I’m literally tearing the stuff off on a night now
 
FFS, not fair if the Isle of Man can return to normality and we can’t. I’m gonna catch COVID and then travel over secretly and go on a coughing spree
 
T00lsh3d said:
Anybody who’s had Covid get really itchy skin? It’s driving me bonkers. I’ve historically had quite dry skin but it doesn’t normally cause any problems, I’m literally tearing the stuff off on a night now
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Hmmm I’ve had itchy skin on my face for the last couple of weeks, it’s driving me crazy. It feels a bit like shingles but it’s not broken like shingles.
I haven’t been tested as I haven’t been out of the house. We’ve all felt a bit run down.
 
golden_blunder said:
Hmmm I’ve had itchy skin on my face for the last couple of weeks, it’s driving me crazy. It feels a bit like shingles but it’s not broken like shingles.
I haven’t been tested as I haven’t been out of the house. We’ve all felt a bit run down.
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That’s pretty much the only symptoms I’ve had. Tiredness and itchiness. Also there’s no rash or anything. Maybe time for a test pal
 
RonaldoVII said:
Wish they would sort out the priority list for phase two. Just saying all adults vaccinated by Autumn doesn't exactly lift the mood.
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https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...ups-for-covid-19-vaccination-30-december-2020

The committee is currently of the view that the key focus for the second phase of vaccination could be on further preventing hospitalisation.

Vaccination of those at increased risk of exposure to SARS-CoV-2 due to their occupation could also be a priority in the next phase. This could include first responders, the military, those involved in the justice system, teachers, transport workers, and public servants essential to the pandemic response. Priority occupations for vaccination are considered an issue of policy, rather than for JCVI to advise on. JCVIasks that the Department of Health and Social Care consider occupational vaccination in collaboration with other government departments.

Wider use of COVID-19 vaccines will provide a better understanding of whether they can prevent infection and onward transmission in the population. Data on vaccine impact on transmission, along with data on vaccine safety and effectiveness, will potentially allow for consideration of vaccination across the rest of the population.
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So are they doing a super duper hard lockdown in those areas or are they gonna wait 4 weeks till it's all over the country then decide to do a harder lockdown?
 
One Night Only said:
So are they doing a super duper hard lockdown in those areas or are they gonna wait 4 weeks till it's all over the country then decide to do a harder lockdown?
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I went to Asda while the news was on and it was the usual chaos in this part of North London. Streets are packed.
 
What’s the deal with the SA variant, is it more lethal/infectious?
 
711 said:
Oh dear, the South African variant is rampant in Southport. That's getting perilously close to civilisation. @Penna
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Thank goodness we're a very long way away! There is a very high percentage of old people in Southport, as it's completely without hills and at the seaside.

edit - it's our postcode, too. PR9 is full of blocks of flats for older people, both healthy ones and people needing sheltered accommodation. Lots of care homes as well.
 
Penna said:
Thank goodness we're a very long way away! There is a very high percentage of old people in Southport, as it's completely without hills and at the seaside.

edit - it's our postcode, too. PR9 is full of blocks of flats for older people, both healthy ones and people needing sheltered accommodation. Lots of care homes as well.
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I know. My loved one works in a care home and was vaccinated late last week. They've got most of the patients but not the staff. The problem is they turn up one morning or afternoon and the staff that are on duty are done, but it's a 24-hour job, for every person on duty two more are on other shifts or day off. And that's without the countless zero hours agency staff moving from one home to another who don't get paid if they're sick. Ended up ranting, sorry.
 
Grinner said:
I've never met a nice South African, and that's not bluddy surprising, man.
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Cos they're all a bunch of arrogant bahstards, etc etc.

On a serious note. I, m wondering why they are so keen to clamp down so hard on this south African mutation, as opposed to the Brazilian one?

How is it different? Do they think its more likely to mutate into something more sinister that the vaccines would struggle against down the line?
 
AltiUn said:
What’s the deal with the SA variant, is it more lethal/infectious?
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Likely more infectious, possibly causes more disease, proven to be more effective at evading multiple vaccines than the other variants.
 
worldgonemad said:
Cos they're all a bunch of arrogant bahstards, etc etc.

On a serious note. I, m wondering why they are so keen to clamp down so hard on this south African mutation, as opposed to the Brazilian one?

How is it different? Do they think its more likely to mutate into something more sinister that the vaccines would struggle against down the line?
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I'm with you. Been reading all about the existence of these variants but now what makes them worse. I think it's just increased rates of transmission.
 
711 said:
I know. My loved one works in a care home and was vaccinated late last week. They've got most of the patients but not the staff. The problem is they turn up one morning or afternoon and the staff that are on duty are done, but it's a 24-hour job, for every person on duty two more are on other shifts or day off. And that's without the countless zero hours agency staff moving from one home to another who don't get paid if they're sick. Ended up ranting, sorry.
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No, I understand completely. In another life I used to manage a group of care homes. The staff should be given time off to go and get the vaccine, it would be more effective and quicker.
 
Grinner said:
I'm with you. Been reading all about the existence of these variants but now what makes them worse. I think it's just increased rates of transmission.
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How much more transmissible is it than the UK varient? Any rough figures as yet?
 
Grinner said:
I'm with you. Been reading all about the existence of these variants but now what makes them worse. I think it's just increased rates of transmission.
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The main concern 2 months ago was about transmission, now it's about the vaccines.

We know from two recent trials that at least two vaccines, and probably all vaccines, don't work as well against it.
Novavax reported that results from mid-stage trials on Thursday showed its vaccine had 50% efficacy overall in preventing Covid-19 among people in South Africa. In late-stage results from the UK, the vaccine had up to 89.3% efficacy.

On Friday, Johnson & Johnson said a single shot of its vaccine had 66% efficacy, judging by a large-scale trial which spanned three continents. In the US, which recorded its first cases of the South African variant this week, the vaccine’s efficacy reached 72%, but it was just 57% in South Africa, where the new variants constituted 95% of the coronavirus cases in the trial.
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That's the bad news. The good news is that even though the vaccines aren't as good at preventing people from getting covid, they seem to be just as good at preventing people from getting hospitalised with covid: 85%+. So there'll be more cases and more mild illnesses but as things stand, the vaccines will still save lives, remove the strain on hospitals and get things back to normal.

But we tend to notice these variants months after they've appeared, so it's entirely possible that there is already another variant that will be better at evading the vaccines. Pfizer's CEO said there was a "very high likelihood" their vaccine might become redundant eventually due to virus transmission.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Good summary here.
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Thanks for that Pogue. That explains why they are keen to try to get on top of it. 60 percent efficy of vaccines and more difficult to track. Its in 30 countries so far though, so I'm thinking its not so much a case of trying to stop that varient completely, more realistically trying to suppress it for as long as possible.
 
WR said:
FFS, not fair if the Isle of Man can return to normality and we can’t. I’m gonna catch COVID and then travel over secretly and go on a coughing spree
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Have you ever been to the Isle of Man?
London in the strictest lockdown ever is still better than the Isle of Man.
 
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