Ive touched on this sort of thing earlier , fecking does my head in . I think we all have similar stories to this , only a low numberof selfish assholes can cause chaos . Compare this to my next door neighbour who has barely left the house since march last year , and who had xmas dinner alone , whos business is ruined and who has had to rely on her parents to help out . She went back to work in December for the first time since march and had to self isolate within 2 weeks .
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Its a wide section of society as well pogue , from those youngsters who are regarded as being most irresponsible in general to those who definately know better , like the scottish mp who thought it ok to hop on a train after positive test , to the swaffham councillor going for a walk around town while infected .
Human nature can be a bitch at times
Flaming Norah!
People in this thread saying that the UK government's aim in this pandemic is to kill the vulnerable/poor are just as mental as 9/11 conspiracy theorists and Qanon followers.
You can comeback from unemployment and lost business. You can't comeback from death or permanent health issues from Covid.
Not an aim, just the most acceptable loss given the options presented.
Utter cnuts.
100% agree mate. It’s why I don’t want the schools going back until infection rates have massively reduced. In fact I’m all for a much stricter lockdown to get this bloody thing under control. I see people breaking the rules all of the time and it boils my piss.
I agree. It's been used ad nauseam to justify all manner of stupidity. Like some sort of deus ex machina.
That is so disgusting. Did you manage to report them or something? Zombie and other apocalypse movies were right, all along. Humans truly are that stupid.
In all likelihood, this most likely the case. Their "friends" have rewarded them well for it.
Yeah, as we all know the government have been so incompetent that if they were trying to kill people we probably would have ended up with nobody dying at all.
Of course they didn't mean to, but it doesn't mean it couldn't have been avoided either.
Who’s said that?
For what it’s worth, I think you are right in saying that it’s mental to state that they have that as any sort of specific target. I do however think it’s a perfectly rational and logical conclusion to derive from this government’s words and actions that their inherent biases and contempt for those demographics has resulted in the horrendous inequality and injustices we have seen inflicted on those people.
This is insane
Jesus Christ. I have no words. Let them all go home and die
China begins using anal swab test 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...gins-using-anal-swabs-test-Covid-Beijing.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...gins-using-anal-swabs-test-Covid-Beijing.html
As if it wasn't already hard enough to get to the nasal cavity, now they want to take scenic route.
I believe they gave anal swab tests for members of parliament to try, but half of them said they couldn't find it.China begins using anal swab test
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...gins-using-anal-swabs-test-Covid-Beijing.html
Spot on. The minute the daft old fecker says no Im wont when the Dr tells him he will die in 30 minutes if he leaves, say righto, sign this release paper and feck off then.
My thoughts too. Thick bastards. I wonder what happened?
That would be sweet but the Dr could get struck off if he did that. For someone to sign themselves out you need to be sure they’re mentally competent to make that decision. A lawyer would be able to argue that the old man was delerious from his illness and not thinking straight. Getting family members to take full legal responsibility for a delirious relative is another kettle of fish on top of that.
He handled the situation superbly. Can you imagine how badly he wanted to spark out the little shit, with all the stress he’s gone through because of twats like that?
Absolutley, i was speaking from more of a "if the world had any actual justice" point of view. That dr has the patience of a saint, as if the medical professionals aren't already going through hell having to deal with spunk brained halfwits like that just isn't fair.
Terrible figures yet again today, next few weeks are going to be harrowing. My mate has now lost 4 family members in little over a week. His aunt was discharged from hospital on Friday, re admitted on Sunday, died 6 am this morning, with her son and daughter allowed with her, but dressed in what he described as haz mat suits.
So very sad and so close to safety within the vaccine roll out.
My eldest had the jab little over a week ago, bro and mum over the last few days, and my gf last night.
I drove her to the vaccine centre in York and its awe inspiring and a little unnerving to see. Never thought this would happen in my lifetime.
It seems like a similar thing will play out in every developed over the next few months. Hopefully the poorer countries will get plenty of help too. It really could restore faith in humanity if all countries pull together with the vaccine program
So very sad and so close to safety within the vaccine roll out.
My eldest had the jab little over a week ago, bro and mum over the last few days, and my gf last night.
I drove her to the vaccine centre in York and its awe inspiring and a little unnerving to see. Never thought this would happen in my lifetime.
It seems like a similar thing will play out in every developed over the next few months. Hopefully the poorer countries will get plenty of help too. It really could restore faith in humanity if all countries pull together with the vaccine program
I was going to link that video earlier, the longer version is about 20 minutes or so. Was on reddit about a week ago but it showed the patient's face.
Definitely agree though regarding delirium and lacking capacity to self-discharge. We do let people self-discharge against medical advice but only after a decision-specific capacity assessment is done. And capacity is usually assumed too. But not in the above context of hypoxic, vulnerable, frail patient.
There were medics who were a bit uneasy about letting people watch that from a patient confidentiality POV but I think it needs highlighting, the kind of shit that paramedics, medics and allied health professionals have to put up with is really insane. In high pressure litigious environments too.
Definitely agree though regarding delirium and lacking capacity to self-discharge. We do let people self-discharge against medical advice but only after a decision-specific capacity assessment is done. And capacity is usually assumed too. But not in the above context of hypoxic, vulnerable, frail patient.
There were medics who were a bit uneasy about letting people watch that from a patient confidentiality POV but I think it needs highlighting, the kind of shit that paramedics, medics and allied health professionals have to put up with is really insane. In high pressure litigious environments too.
@Wolverine , what was the outcome for the patient above, do you know?
I'm amazed they were allowed in in the first place. You can't get near the Covid wards here.
Norway basically slamming its borders shut now. About bloody time.
There's more here, the full video showed patient being put back on oxygen, the maskless deniers being calmly escorted out where they continued to rant at the consultant about vitamin C
https://metro.co.uk/2021/01/27/covi...rying-to-take-patient-from-hospital-13975271/
Wanted by the police now, incidentally still posting on youtube which I've flagged up for dangerous misinformation.
He mentioned sending the hospital trust a link to "evidence" for vit C, D, zinc and ivermectin linking to mainly other youtube hyperlinks in the letter
Filled with a lot of weaponised pseudo-legal jargon/lingo too. The doctors did great, these guys are armed with terms they misuse like power of attorney and McKenzie friend to try and disorient people. Being savvy to their tactics should become part of healthcare training I think to deal with situations like that. Above patient was pretty much as perfect a way to deal with that situation as I can think of.
As it is getting more frequent, above is not the only example
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...vid-deniers-putting-lives-at-risk-say-leaders
Did it happen quite early in the pandemic? There is a lot of family there which id imagine is not allowed now
Not so much. I think the seeds of covid misinformation took time to take root, gradually more and more people with lockdown have been online more and more and this stuff has become more mainstream. Initially it was the lab creation, 5G link stuff but pretty quickly morphed into the more insidious microchipping, covid denalism although with the pandemic documentary it wasn't long before you had a lot of people became radicalised.
Families like that aren't allowed, you can have a visitor or even someone staying over in very specific scenarios, e.g. mentioned here for a Birmingham hospital where my wife's grandmother is an inpatient with severe covid (she has been allowed somebody to stay with her in a sideroom due to dementia-related concerns). This is for a general ward, ITU rules are stricter
But the broader point about people sneaking into hospitals is due to lack of security which is sparse. It's not enormously difficult to make your way into a ward, you can tailgate somebody with a badge. Nurses are good at challenging for ID badges etc but in reality lunatics like that in the above video wouldn't find it too challenging
I hope that tosser is found and arrested
Really don't get why people PM keeps saying things "Road Map to reclaim our lives"
It's utter nonsense, its basically lest see if the vaccines are effective enough for some kind of return to pre-pandemic way of life, if they aren't we will have figure out what the F we do next.
People need to hear the truth. Not promises that no one has any idea if they can be kept
It's utter nonsense, its basically lest see if the vaccines are effective enough for some kind of return to pre-pandemic way of life, if they aren't we will have figure out what the F we do next.
People need to hear the truth. Not promises that no one has any idea if they can be kept
Couldn’t agree more.
So this new UK hotel quarantine policy only applies to certain countries and will take weeks to implement. What's the fecking point then?
This government just seems incapable of implementing anything quickly.
While I agree for the most part, I think the UK's vaccination plan is quite rapid compared to similar wealthy nations.