It won't be.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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Increasingly likely that schools will be closed. Or at least be postponed.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...s-possible-new-covid-restrictions-source-says
Good point about the reduced deaths from other causes not being accounted for as well. People staying home means less accidents, less flu, etc.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...s-possible-new-covid-restrictions-source-says
Yeah. The trend is consistent in most countries I've bothered to check around the world. If anything, we're undercounting the number of deaths.
Good point about the reduced deaths from other causes not being accounted for as well. People staying home means less accidents, less flu, etc.
The Empire Strikes Back!!
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We should carry on doing nothing different for a few more days, just to make completely sure the hospitals wont be able to cope.
Then around NYE or start of the new year, the government can announce a bunch of new measures and act as if the surge in cases was completely unforseeable and hadn't been predicted by anyone. Just make sure it's announced too late to stop anyone partying and infecting their relatives on NYE itself.
If only it was possible to forsee in some way that a variant of the virus that has been present in London for months would somehow spread to other areas of the country, where thousands of people from London travel to and from every day.
Then around NYE or start of the new year, the government can announce a bunch of new measures and act as if the surge in cases was completely unforseeable and hadn't been predicted by anyone. Just make sure it's announced too late to stop anyone partying and infecting their relatives on NYE itself.
If only it was possible to forsee in some way that a variant of the virus that has been present in London for months would somehow spread to other areas of the country, where thousands of people from London travel to and from every day.
Crap. I thought gatherings were banned? I guess this means the tier restrictions are useless because people blatantly ignore it.
Maybe provide a tip hotline to report offenders with a 100 pound reward if true. That would solve a lot of problems with idiots.
Intelligent man with a lack of common sense or logic
Can we agree the guys below wish them love, prosperity and long life?
Anyway, let's move on.
I didn’t say they wished them love, I said they didn’t wish death on her family, which is what you claimed. This is like the third time I’ve had to explain this to you ye damn tool.
Anyway, let’s move on. Wishing you love, prosperity and a long life
He’s in ireland
I'd actually forgotten we still have NYE to come.
I'm still shocked that they found it in Sept and it was spreading for 3 months before they realised it was a problem and did something. I thought they were boasting about all their testing, and all the forensic and epidemiological work.
Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification.
I'd actually forgotten we still have NYE to come.
Yep. Today has been a real eye opener. I live in a small village on a National trust estate and although the NT have closed the park off there are numerous footpaths in from the village. Literally hordes of people today, so many I can’t even describe it without it sounding like hyperbole. It’s snowed really heavily here and I went outside at one point and there must have been 12 - 15 people all in a huge group, completely taking the whole pavement up and you could see their breath clouds all mingling. Do these dolts not read or watch the news? >50k new infections, a number that was scoffed at when Sage predicted it in October.
Wherever I looked today, I saw people just not being careful. As usual, us residents just stayed in.
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You see, in my experience I’d say that 9/10 folk wearing masks when in the supermarket is about par for the course. I’m not going to pretend that my anecdotal evidence is worth a jot, mind. It will certainly vary from person to person. On the whole, however, I don’t conduct my day-to-day activities and feel as if people are being reckless, or behaving with a total disregard for the safety of others. As I’ve said several times now, I think people, generally, are trying their best to get through this. I agree with the tone of your post more generally, however. What I’m finding a little tedious, mind you, is this sort of thing...
I really don’t mean to get at you but what is your issue here? If it is people (en masse) not wearing masks, or refusing to display good manners in a shop, then you’re well within your rights to feel distressed. But let’s get it right: people eating takeaway food from a van is absolutely fine. People walking around a town centre is absolutely fine and well within what the public has been instructed to do (area dependent). Or is it only acceptable to do so when somebody such as yourself decides that they need to post something? I mean, now we’ve started to dissect the decision making of others re. eating food from takeaway vans, it really begs the question as to whether or not you really needed to post whatever it is that required posting. Am I being unfair? Of course I am. I’m being a bit of twat. But this is the kind of discourse that we really need to nip in the bud: there are people milling around that town centre who are going about their business no differently to you; perhaps trying to maintain some semblance of normality or routine. That shouldn’t be discouraged until the government make an executive (belated?) decision to demand that they stop doing those things.
And while I’m at it, without meaning to discredit what you’re saying, if only 6 out of 10 people were wearing masks inside of shops then I’d be very alarmed as to what they’re putting in the water wherever you happen to live. I walked around a busy city centre last night (I wanted some new work clothes for next week - was this allowed?) and there is no way that 40% of people weren’t wearing masks inside. Anecdotal again, mind you, but you see my point.
Are people really getting worked up about posters saying they hope some totally random person on a news report suffers with covid because they are ignorant about wearing a mask and taking precautions?
Who cares.
Who cares.
It's March/April all over again, but this time it feels worse
Pointing out that it’s more than a little strange is perfectly reasonable.
But really who cares? Are we getting offended on other people's behalf again. People who we don't even know and don't even know us or never will. Random people from the TV.
Then you have posters angling for mods to punish people. Feck me
Two days ago it was 30k
I saw that, it already seemed very high but closer to the high figures that I remember for France a few weeks ago.
But really who cares? Are we getting offended on other people's behalf again. People who we don't even know and don't even know us or never will. Random people from the TV.
Then you have posters angling for mods to punish people. Feck me
Some people care more than others, I guess. It doesn’t bother me; I do think it’s objectively strange, however. If you’re going to say really silly things every time you see somebody doing something that might contravene any sort of guidance then you’d be best locking yourself away and turning off the television for another year or so. It’s unhealthy.
It’s amazing that the UK has done by far the most testing, almost 0.75 tests per person. Yet we have no control over this thing at all. Wasted effort.
But really who cares? Are we getting offended on other people's behalf again. People who we don't even know and don't even know us or never will. Random people from the TV.
Then you have posters angling for mods to punish people. Feck me
Been a bit of this going on the last few days. I find it strange, when you get to that point people should hit the ‘log out’ button.
Hopefully it's a national lockdown tomorrow. It doesn't matter whether the government or public are to blame, people are doing as much as is allowed which just causes rebound so the government need a strong hand.
Personally i can't understand why people feel the need to go shopping in busy city centres right now. Had to bite my tongue talking to friends/family.
Personally i can't understand why people feel the need to go shopping in busy city centres right now. Had to bite my tongue talking to friends/family.
I tend to avoid the thread now. Then again im trying to avoid covid related doom and gloom in general where I can and just pick on Chelsea fans and what not instead.
We've been hit by another earthquake today, 6,2 on richter, you can't make this shit up.
This one was more devastating than the one in March, there are 7 people dead with many more injured and there are people still under ruins.
Several cities have been ruined like it was war again, my hometown Glina looks like it's been hit with atomic bomb, there's no house in town without some damage.
Friend of my sister lost father and brother, devastating situation all around
This one was more devastating than the one in March, there are 7 people dead with many more injured and there are people still under ruins.
Several cities have been ruined like it was war again, my hometown Glina looks like it's been hit with atomic bomb, there's no house in town without some damage.
Friend of my sister lost father and brother, devastating situation all around
Christ. Hope y’all recover from this as soon as possible.We've been hit by another earthquake today, 6,2 on richter, you can't make this shit up.
This one was more devastating than the one in March, there are 7 people dead with many more injured and there are people still under ruins.
Several cities have been ruined like it was war again, my hometown Glina looks like it's been hit with atomic bomb, there's no house in town without some damage.
Friend of my sister lost father and brother, devastating situation all around
Danish government just prolonged the current lockdown until Jan 17. As in all stores except pharmacies and supermarkets, gyms, schools etc. closed.
Holidays happening this summer or what? Supposed to be off to Mexico in June which was already rescheduled from last summer, starting to get doubts again.
Because we know more than we did back then.
This makes sense because aren't you a police officer lool why would you care
Tbh they should if the vaccine is rolled out as they're saying it will. It depends on that.
People's personal experiences in various parts of the UK/Ireland are valid. My sis lives in Bolton. She was in a queue in the bank today and the man behind her was coughing incessantly, no mask. She didn't bother waiting.
Then she went into a huge supermarket. The security guy who usually tells people to put a mask on wasn't there, and evidently only a handful of people were wearing masks.
The cashier also didn't have a mask. She told my sister that she had asthma and couldn't wear one. My sis (who isn't confrontational) said "could you not wear a face shield instead?" The answer was no, because she feels claustrophobic. That woman is interacting with hundreds of people every time she goes to work.
I simply don't understand this unwillingness to wear a mask, or a simple face-covering.
Then she went into a huge supermarket. The security guy who usually tells people to put a mask on wasn't there, and evidently only a handful of people were wearing masks.
The cashier also didn't have a mask. She told my sister that she had asthma and couldn't wear one. My sis (who isn't confrontational) said "could you not wear a face shield instead?" The answer was no, because she feels claustrophobic. That woman is interacting with hundreds of people every time she goes to work.
I simply don't understand this unwillingness to wear a mask, or a simple face-covering.
situation feels a bit hopeless atm. Winter, inaction by Johnson etc..
It does. There seems to be no end in sight even with the vaccines coming out. Every day seems to take longer to pass compared to the last. I am hating every minute of this. The situation isn't so hopeless, we have to keep our head up or we'll really lose the plot.
The winter was always gonna be tough. Let's just pull together and try to get through this. There'll be tier announcements tomorrow and then hopefully the good news of the vaccine with the roll out for January. Let's get past jan and hopefully we will see sunnier days.
Jesus, that's depressing
There is no word in the dictionary, in any language, to describe this year. The people who got away with it are extremely extremely fortunate.
That's the thing that really annoys me when people start bringing in conspiracy theories, downplaying the numbers etc that the toll on the physical and mental health of nurses/doctors is fecking immense and people just don't seem to be cognizant of that. It's just appalling what they must be going through.
I think many of us are in this situation.
I've experienced a lockdown in two different countries. First in China from December - January and then in England from March - now. The difference is night and day.
I can't go back to Shanghai as their border controls are super strict. I Haven't seen my girlfriend out there since December last year... we have pretty much split up. It's also ruined any business plans I had out there. Feel quite hopeless.
I agree with everything you’ve said and I understand because we all only have these anecdotal experiences that are largely quite different depending on location, demographic etc. What’s happening in my town may not be happening in yours. I didn’t say 30% weren’t wearing masks inside, I said that 60% were wearing it correctly - I don’t consider a mask over the mouth but not the nose or over the chin correct, it’s the same as wearing no mask IMO.
I get what you’re saying about the vans etc but to me, being in a tier 4 area where we are instructed to go out only for essentials, having a burger outside and eating with your hands on tables closer than 2m from others is unnecessary, so is not wearing a mask outside in a busy town centre whilst not social distancing, even though we aren’t instructed to do that
Imaybe I am being a dick because my Mrs pulled me up on it today, saying that it’s not as black and white as I make it out to be, that people need a semblance of normality but I just can’t comprehend it. This is a once is a century event we are currently in and in my brain it requires us to do absolutely everything in our power to keep ourselves and others safe.
So perhaps I need to be more understanding to other views on this. I would also say the same goes for you because there are people out there like me that are absolutely petrified by this thing
I’m certainly not naive enough to think that I am always right so maybe on this occasion i’m not.
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