London & South East look to be in a significant upwards trajectory, I don't know why they're not pushing them into tier 3 already.
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London & South East look to be in a significant upwards trajectory, I don't know why they're not pushing them into tier 3 already.
Last question first: Berlin is not worse than other areas, its probably slightly better. It`s just that because of public visibility everyone loves to move their demonstration to Berlin as pictures of demonstrators outside parliament are better for publicity than if they`re somewhere in the middle of nowhere in Saxony. So people are coming from all over Germany with buses to Berlin for the weekend and then feck off again. Also, big majority of national and international press is based in Berlin and coverage is therefore skewed.
I`d say the eastern German states are slightly "worse" when it comes to Corona and lockdown scepticism because right-wing anti mainstream attitude is proportional bigger (the right wing AfD scores highest in these rural states) and also because scepticism of the state and government is (understandably) historically bigger due to the GDRs legacy. A third aspect could be the slow emergence of German "Bible Belts" around Saxony and the Stuttgart region where strong conservative traditionalism meets evangelicanism in a mix of rejecting anything about "modernity". The last decade has offered plenty of demonstration opportunities (Pegida, Stuttgart 21, now Corona) to strengthen their ressources and structures.
As for the political split: I wouldn`t read much into the "left wing" aspects of some demonstrating groups. No left wing party, no bigger activists and no leftist street movement (e.g. Antifa) is involved in the protests. The reason why some is branded as leftist is due to a big emergence of esoteric "Spread love" gibberish that many identify with (Nena the singer as the most famous of these conspiracy fans) who wave rainbow and peace flags at these demonstrations and some anti-globalist branches who have been around for a while and are often mistaken as leftist because they tick a few boxes (anti American imperialism, anti big corporations) but are riddled with xenophobic, antisemitic, islamophobic people.
It's not that surprising anymore. London gets special treatment and whenever someone says it, it's 'no no that's not true because XYZ'. I was watching BBC news last night, the rates in Trafford (where I am currently residing) are down to something like 80 in 100k and we're in Tier 3. Yet there's areas around London that are hitting numbers of 300+ per 100k yet still in Tier 2.
London & South East look to be in a significant upwards trajectory, I don't know why they're not pushing them into tier 3 already.
Apparently the government are looking at rolling out mass testing in London like they did in Liverpool to try avoid putting London in Tier 3?
Seems like London may be going into Tier 3 according to the BBC. Inevitable really.
I’m not saying London shouldn’t be bumped up to T3 because it definitely seems it should, but reducing the tier in Trafford (or elsewhere in Gt Manchester) might not be possible due to hospital bed availability, or rather the lack thereof.
Our transmission numbers could be the lowest in the country but if there’s zero ICU availability they’re going to keep us in a higher tier.
Not saying that definitely is the case, but infectious rates are only part of the story from my understanding.
Oh I'm not saying we should come out of Tier 3 =] It's more about the system being balanced, the same rules applying for all.
It’ll all be for shit soon anyway when everybody goes entirely rogue over Christmas and numbers rocket in January.
Hard lockdown starting at midnight tonight. There are already long queues at the off license
Great to see people have their priorities right
I reckon half the population of Europe would collectively shit their pants if alcohol was suddenly no longer sold
Gonna have buy dog food online ffs
Lady at the bakers was crying, has to throw all her stock away.
Are you in the UK?
They can still do takeaway here, no need to throw everything away straight away...
From the off there were places within London that should of been in tier 3 if comparing it with other areas.
Stratford one of the lowest in the country was tier 1 as Warwickshire were and yet that area as a whole wasn't much worse off than many places in London if you looked at the chart.
https://news.sky.com/story/new-vari...entified-in-uk-health-secretary-says-12161416
Let's hope he's right
It is "highly unlikely" the new mutation would not respond to a coronavirus vaccine, Mr Hancock told the Commons today.
Let's hope he's right
It is "highly unlikely" the new mutation would not respond to a coronavirus vaccine, Mr Hancock told the Commons today.
NL. Restaurants can do takeaway but the govt does not want people in shopping centres, its the people's fault we are where we are. Talking about a curfew for NYE now.
London needs to go to tier 3 for Christmas. And then bring Manchester down to tier 2 or maybe even tier 1.
Feck Boris for using Manchester as a political football the last few months. I hope he enjoys his Christmas without all of his mistresses.
Feck Boris for using Manchester as a political football the last few months. I hope he enjoys his Christmas without all of his mistresses.
I always get it online. No point carrying a big bag around.
Regarding covid, I think most people think the "intense" days are done and many are roaming around freely. Crazy because the virus is rampant right now.
Just hope the vaccine speeds up as fast as possible. I'm in Netherlands right now and hope I don't get stranded here.
Just been confirmed that London are going Tier 3. Nice for the Arsenal fans.
London should have been Tier 3 from the off. This was inevitable.
I Must admit, i am having a good chuckle to myself with the news of London going tier 3. I think its brilliant as we are likely to go tier 2 on Wednesday. Reminds me 1994 when a school bully went to headbutt someone, missed and fell down a flight of stairs..... Fantastic
Yes, because the people who live and work in London are all that one Bully.
No idea why you want to take pleasure at a part of the country going into stricter measures?
Because London gets away with far too much and the Northerners have been paying the price so far. Hell, i wouldn't even be surprised if London's figures have been being massaged over the last few months to avoid facing tier 3.
And that is my fault how?
Why is Britain full of people who hate each other ?
Such a bizarre and depressing island.
Such a bizarre and depressing island.
What are they on about? They're delighted not to have to have 2,000 fans boo them from the off
Exactly!
I do that all the time. Try zooplus, they're very efficient and deliver all over Europe.
I don't know and i don't care. The level of contempt shown to us has been disgusting recently. I am no expert on economics but I imagine many Southern business have benefitted from the death of many Northern businesses these last few months.
Welcome to tier 3. Its shit.
Wow, your dog gets around!
There's no doubt that unless you live in the north, you can't really appreciate how successive British governments have neglected it. I remember when London got new rolling stock for the railway, and the NW got their old carriages. That seemed like a slap in the face.
Ay up our kid! Those metropolitan elite down south get away with everything, that bloody covid with teach them a lesson. Hahah no offensive hahaha
Wow, i never knew this. How patronising is that?
Virus variation - a bit of context.
Well, Stanley's in the Netherlands if I recall. Our little dog hasn't ever left Italy, there's no point worrying about pet passports right now as the scheme is being scrapped.
You obviously do care because you are merrily laughing that London is now in Tier 3.
As for the level of contempt shown to 'us' – no idea why you feel people like me have been showing you said contempt, but, at least on behalf of me, I haven't.
As for your last comment – at least I can agree you are no expert.
Grow up. i have never wished Covid on anyway so lets not be twisting words. I am just glad your free pass has run out and you can now sit on a level with the rest of the UK.Ay up our kid! Those metropolitan elite down south get away with everything, that bloody covid with teach them a lesson. Hahah no offensive hahaha