SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Redplane said:
I don't disagree what's happening in Italy is terrible - but it ignores "why Italy"? Aside from the obvious and having many elderly folks - that excuse seems to simple. Perhaps access to timely and proper healthcare support plays a factor for instance. The issue isn't the virus as much as it is the response to it. At some point it will be impossible for most of us to not catch it. Just like the flu. No amount of sitting at home is going to make it disappear. Look at the flu - there is a reason the shots are trivalent or quadrivalent - I. E. H1N1 is still around - despite all the efforts taken to try and fight it. And that's WITH a shot available.
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My theory is that the answer to the question of "why Italy" is mere randomness.
 
hp88 said:
I was thinking the same. Has there been any word on whether or not they had the virus before going to hospital ?
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Other than the bit I posted they just said contact tracing had begun.
 
Mr Pigeon said:
More people die from the flu every year than being poisoned from eating raw badger arsehole, but I'm certainly going to avoid tucking into a big chunk of Bodger's buddy if I can get away with it.

Sure, more people might die from the flu but that doesn't mean DEATHBUG300-SARS-Covid-19 is any less of a danger, nor does it mean that its overhyped. If anything it shows that we don't take the common flu serious enough.
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Some of you are so afraid of adding a little culture to your life.
 
Redplane said:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.livescience.com/amp/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html

A lot of it is based on very limited date globally. While the death rate appears to be high it's too early to say how it compares to the regular flu which kills many many more each year. There is no shot for the virus but even with the flu it's a complete crap shoot given the many mutations out there. The issue is with the lack of testing and proper care - so far I am not seeing anything to indicate it's simply because this is a virus that's so much more dangerous than any other for your average semi healthy human being.

Also : https://time.com/5798168/coronavirus-mortality-rate/
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I must have said this hundreds of times now, China doesn’t shut down its economy, build hospitals in 48 hours and weld people’s apartment blocks shut for the goddam flu!
 
Mr Pigeon said:
More people die from the flu every year than being poisoned from eating raw badger arsehole, but I'm certainly going to avoid tucking into a big chunk of Bodger's buddy if I can get away with it.

Sure, more people might die from the flu but that doesn't mean DEATHBUG300-SARS-Covid-19 is any less of a danger, nor does it mean that its overhyped. If anything it shows that we don't take the common flu serious enough.
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Damn right. Sometimes I just want to reach out over the net and give people a good shake
 
Unless I'm very confused, this particular virus has absolutely no bearing on the world's immunity to influenza right?

We're still very likely to have a flu pandemic in the coming years?
 
golden_blunder said:
I must have said this hundreds of times now, China doesn’t shut down its economy, build hospitals in 48 hours and weld people’s apartment blocks shut for the goddam flu!
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At the very least China is no stranger to imprisoning its population and building tons of massive buildings in next to zero time without regard for safety or need.
 
DiseaseOfTheAge said:
Unless I'm very confused, this particular virus has absolutely no bearing on the world's immunity to influenza right?

We're still very likely to have a flu pandemic in the coming years?
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It is not related at all to flu viruses (H5N/bird flu1 and H1N1/pig flu/Spanish flu are somehow related to human flu). It is related to common cold viruses (as this virus, and 4 viruses that cause common cold are all coronaviruses) but as far as scientists seem to know, having a cold/flu immunization won't boost your chances when it comes to covid-19.
 
DiseaseOfTheAge said:
Unless I'm very confused, this particular virus has absolutely no bearing on the world's immunity to influenza right?

We're still very likely to have a flu pandemic in the coming years?
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Yeah, this is more akin to viral pneumonia as far as I know.
 
Revan said:
It is not related at all to flu viruses (H5N/bird flu1 and H1N1/pig flu/Spanish flu are somehow related to human flu). It is related to common cold viruses (as this virus, and 4 viruses that cause common cold are all coronaviruses) but as far as scientists seem to know, having a cold/flu immunization won't boost your chances when it comes to covid-19.
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And vice versa?
 
Raulduke said:
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Thanks the Lord! Why oh why this was not done one or two weeks ago? Why the feck they were expecting, that suddenly the pasta would become a poison to the virus?

Why the other countries are not doing the same, when clear as day they will do so in 2-3 weeks?
 
Madrid is heading for a lockdown surely.

+200 cases today
 
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senorgregster said:
That's it. I've seen enough. I'm buying all the loo paper in sight tonight.
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Redplane said:
Thanks for back handedly insulting my intelligence like your bro earlier. You could have said everything without the first part, no?
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Well if you say something idiotic, expect to get called an idiot.

A lot of people in Italy shared your opinion early on, going around flaunting regulations and advice and thinking it was all being overblown. Then it progressed to 'what if we are wrong' but still a bit of pride that you know better than everybody else. Now people are getting genuinely scared as its appearing in every town and every village in the country and people are realising they should have taken it more seriously earlier on.

Pexbo said:
Do you know how the UK’s timeline maps on to that? Are we witnessing the similar growth?
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The UK is on a slightly better timeline currently. France and Germany are on the same path, and Spain is truly fecked. I also expect the US to be in a bad state once they stop trying to hide it.
 
SirAF said:
Holy hell
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If that's true, how is anybody going to head out for food and supplies? How are visitors going to make their daily visits to frail elderly?

It can't be as much of a blanket ban as that tweet implies, but as yet I can't see anything on the BBC.

Edit: found it.

It's just a ban on any kind of large gatherings. BBC article.

Why the feck we don't have that here already is beyond me.
 
I know people love sensationalism, but can we just get the facts straight, no movement, 'other than for work and emergencies', which will still mean plenty of people moving about, and I assume people will still be allowed out to buy food, etc.
 
redshaw said:
26th Feb
UK: 7,132 tested 13 positive (0.2% positivity rate).
Italy 9,462 tested, 470 positive, ( 5.0% positivity rate}

9th March
UK 24,641 tested 319 positive (1.3%) 5 deaths

2nd/3rd March
Italy 23/24k tested 2500 positive 79 deaths 10/11% positivity rate

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/covid-19-testing/
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...-cases-slow-live-updates-200303003539680.html

We're not where Italy was 13 days ago.
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Be interesting to know what the demographics were behind those 7,132 tested.
 
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