Yeah I had an argument about this recently, thinking that the term lesbian shouldn't include non binary as it often excludes amab people and they are just viewing non binary as "women lite". Whereas I think gay has come to mean a lot more things, and I know women who use it who are attracted to women. Of course I got shit for that though.
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Okay champ, if giving a shit about how someone wants to be addressed is too much for you.
I see quite a few people identify as gammons in this thread
Thanks
This conversation is getting slightly off topic. I'd like to hear more about the time Pexbo shared a can of Fosters with Sam
Yep.
I love gammon, great with egg and chips
And this post isn't attention-seeking or a bit of a prat?
Sam Smith has come out as non binary for more attention. They/them/thier whatever you want to call that person has done this to make headlines and stay relevant.
Seems like you and @ChrisNelson have magic powers and know things everyone else in the world doesn't.
The white text joke is funnier than the prospector joke to be fair.
I mean, it's very cynical to think this.
So if I decide I'm female one day what happens then? Can I suddenly start using female public toilets?
Ah I see the parasite (this discussion) has found a new host thread to feed off for a while.
Is Sam Smith that much more attention-seeking than their peers?
They're probably about normal for a modern celeb
They're probably about normal for a modern celeb
That person posted a video crying how they couldn't cope during covid because they were stuck in their mansion, just to stay relevant.
Ah, the classic wake up and decide to be x/y/z.
They are all self important. I've never understand award ceremonies. Just people patting themselves on thier back.
That's what people do though isn't it.
I don't think anyone wakes up and decides to be x/y/z
Yep. Very glad we're above all that nonsense here on redcaf
Missed a trick not wearing these with that outfit....
Sure but you'd have to respect their wishes if they wanted to be referred to that way.
Yep, you've nailed it. Congratulations.
I can't agree in the slightest. I laughed at the prospector joke. It's a well crafted joke and a pun to boot.
Gender fluidity. Obviously you've never heard of it.
Did you?
Fair enough. It's just so basic and obvious and it's been done to death on twitter for years now.
These topics never end well and I'd posit it's best to let it rest as no one will a) change their mind b) approach the discussion with any nuance.
Oh, of course, politeness costs nothing.
@fergies coat
whats the issue here? Are you saying all non-binary are making it all up. Or just Sam Smith in particular?
whats the issue here? Are you saying all non-binary are making it all up. Or just Sam Smith in particular?
It's just an opinion.
I am just entitled to say someone born with a pen1s will always be a man, as they are to claim to be a woman, or in this case neither.
It's not to offend anyone, I don't think Sam Smith is a man because I want to upset him or anyone else - I am simply coming from a biological point of view and thousands of years of human history which we seem all too keen to eradicate just to please a few.
I was but would rather not discuss it.
No it's usually something someone has felt their whole lives and have finally had the courage to publicly state. From your perspective it may seem like suddenly out of the blue, but it of course isn't. It's not something someone does on a whim.
With the (unfortunate) amount of abuse and distress this would cause someone do you really think people just wake up one morning and decide to switch gender so they can pop into the women's bathroom? They have to take pills, go through surgeries, etc...
I agree but the bolded part isn't accurate, people don't have to make any fundamental change, they can and are free to identify without such steps.
While I disagree with your opinion, you're entitled to it but to say it is obvious and unnecessary to have pronouns on emails/bios etc. is just wrong and you've admitted as such with your comments here.
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Of course, but I don't think they're allowed into women's bathrooms if that's the case?
'homosexuality isn't natural'
'it's just an opinion'
misgendering clearly is offensive to those you misgender. if you know this and carry on doing it anyway, then what does that say about you?