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Yeah, agreed. He's a good player, quick and a good dribbler, but isn't really top level starting material. If we were to spend big on a winger in the premier league, who is at a smaller club, it would be Mahrez without a doubt. He's a few levels above Mane.

I'd still take mane since he improves us right now and squad wise in the future, but there are a lot better potential and current ability wise.

I disagree I think Mane is much better than Mahrez. I would love Mane here linking up with Martial he'd be devastating and would instantly be one of the best attackers in the league. His acceleration, aggressiveness and close control is just so difficult to deal with.
 
If it's him or Mahrez for the RW, I'd rather Mahrez. However, due to Leicester's position and our need to get some attacking prowess as soon as possible, then Mane might be our only option at the moment. We absolutely need to get top4.
 
We should have someone better on the right rear flank than a converted fullback who was moved from his natural role because he's too shit there. Id keep Young for another year as Rome wasn't built in a day. However its evident that he's not the level we're aiming for
Valencia has been a very good RB especially in the league.

There is a shortage of those in world footballl right now. Can you name just 3 good rb's that are obtainable and would be a massive upgrade on him?

This mythical level people keep talking about. You still need good squad players at that level. Think of the 99 UCl final and our starting midfield to see proof of that.
 
he'd be a huge improvement on everyone except Martial in our attack. Finding good enough attacking players won't be a problem for us with the players we got even a blind chicken could find good enough players to replace the likes of Mata and Rooney, thinking about it we could probably put the chicken in the starting eleven at it would be an improvement on those two.
 
Valencia has been a very good RB especially in the league.

There is a shortage of those in world footballl right now. Can you name just 3 good rb's that are obtainable and would be a massive upgrade on him?

This mythical level people keep talking about. You still need good squad players at that level. Think of the 99 UCl final and our starting midfield to see proof of that.

The trouble with extremely average players is they tend to let you down when you need them the most. Sometimes other players would compensate. For example during the treble season a typical rash tackle from Philip Neville which gifted Arsenal with a penalty in the FA cup semifinal could have easily ended our treble hopes. Luckily Schmeichel (world class) saved the day and Giggs (world class) turned a tragedy into an opportunity by scoring one of the nicest goals in Britain's football history. Phil Nev went on knocking England out of the Euro 2000 with another of his trademark tackles inside the box just a year after.

Of course its impossible to eradicate all these sort of players from a top squad. However that is the aim of all the truly top sides. Year in year out teams like Bayern, Barcelona and Real tend to invest huge sums of money to close any gaps and improve the quality of the side. Strictly speaking they don't need to because they got a fabulous team, however they do so to remain on top and they don't want that last year's weaknesses are exploited this year as they may knock them off their perch. That is why the likes of Barcelona and Bayern are seriously competing for the CL every 3-5 years while we only won it twice throughout SAF long reign.

Returning to Valencia, he's 30 and we already had to move him to RB because he's just too crap to play in his natural role. Its time we start thinking of whether its wise to replace him with someone whose got the potential to be top quality especially since Darmian (whose younger, more versatile and hopefully a better fullback) seem pretty reserve level himself
 
Definitely worth buying. Almost makes too much sense for it happen.
 
The trouble with extremely average players is they tend to let you down when you need them the most. Sometimes other players would compensate. For example during the treble season a typical rash tackle from Philip Neville which gifted Arsenal with a penalty in the FA cup semifinal could have easily ended our treble hopes. Luckily Schmeichel (world class) saved the day and Giggs (world class) turned a tragedy into an opportunity by scoring one of the nicest goals in Britain's football history. Phil Nev went on knocking England out of the Euro 2000 with another of his trademark tackles inside the box just a year after.

Of course its impossible to eradicate all these sort of players from a top squad. However that is the aim of all the truly top sides. Year in year out teams like Bayern, Barcelona and Real tend to invest huge sums of money to close any gaps and improve the quality of the side. Strictly speaking they don't need to because they got a fabulous team, however they do so to remain on top and they don't want that last year's weaknesses are exploited this year as they may knock them off their perch. That is why the likes of Barcelona and Bayern are seriously competing for the CL every 3-5 years while we only won it twice throughout SAF long reign.

Returning to Valencia, he's 30 and we already had to move him to RB because he's just too crap to play in his natural role. Its time we start thinking of whether its wise to replace him with someone whose got the potential to be top quality especially since Darmian (whose younger, more versatile and hopefully a better fullback) seem pretty reserve level himself
 
Can he play as right wide forward (in a 4-3-3 formation)? I know he's best in the middle but we don't have anybody on the right hand side (Young is playing RB).
 
That some on here would take Pedro before this guy :lol:
Including me! Good thing I'm not in charge of United's transfers.

The reaction to United going in for Mane on deadline day was priceless in hindsight. Would absolutely love him right now.
 
The trouble with extremely average players is they tend to let you down when you need them the most. Sometimes other players would compensate. For example during the treble season a typical rash tackle from Philip Neville which gifted Arsenal with a penalty in the FA cup semifinal could have easily ended our treble hopes. Luckily Schmeichel (world class) saved the day and Giggs (world class) turned a tragedy into an opportunity by scoring one of the nicest goals in Britain's football history. Phil Nev went on knocking England out of the Euro 2000 with another of his trademark tackles inside the box just a year after.

Of course its impossible to eradicate all these sort of players from a top squad. However that is the aim of all the truly top sides. Year in year out teams like Bayern, Barcelona and Real tend to invest huge sums of money to close any gaps and improve the quality of the side. Strictly speaking they don't need to because they got a fabulous team, however they do so to remain on top and they don't want that last year's weaknesses are exploited this year as they may knock them off their perch. That is why the likes of Barcelona and Bayern are seriously competing for the CL every 3-5 years while we only won it twice throughout SAF long reign.

Returning to Valencia, he's 30 and we already had to move him to RB because he's just too crap to play in his natural role. Its time we start thinking of whether its wise to replace him with someone whose got the potential to be top quality especially since Darmian (whose younger, more versatile and hopefully a better fullback) seem pretty reserve level himself
It was a terrible tackle late in the game and could have cost us. But for every Phil Neville, there's a Wes Brown stepping up massively in UCL winning team.

Good squad players that can easily fit into the side and can still perform at a high level are pivotal. It's what has been the pillar stone of United over the years. Even the Barca's of this world have their own kind of those players. For example, Sergio Roberto who was much maligned by most Barca fans stepped up massively in Messi's absence even scoring in El Clasico.

Yes, Valencia was poor at RW for whatever reason, but was good at RB. And even though he's 30 he doesnt have as much mileage like someone like Rooney and is still performing well. Lets judge him on that...
 
It was a terrible tackle late in the game and could have cost us. But for every Phil Neville, there's a Wes Brown stepping up massively in UCL winning team.

Good squad players that can easily fit into the side and can still perform at a high level are pivotal. It's what has been the pillar stone of United over the years. Even the Barca's of this world have their own kind of those players. For example, Sergio Roberto who was much maligned by most Barca fans stepped up massively in Messi's absence even scoring in El Clasico.

Yes, Valencia was poor at RW for whatever reason, but was good at RB. And even though he's 30 he doesnt have as much mileage like someone like Rooney and is still performing well. Lets judge him on that...

I wouldn't really classify orange at the same level of Phil, Oshit and Valencia though. What limited the boy was not his lack of talent but his constant injuries. I still remember his debut at age 17 where he completely humiliated Hasselbaink. The Dutch was so pissed off that he ended up kicking him and get red carded for it.

I strongly believe that the team need to be in constant watch off its weaknesses and constantly strengthen the team. The RB may not be as top priority as CB, the flanks and the forward line but we need to have it sorted. Valencia at age 30 and as a makeshift RB shouldn't be in that role, at least not at a club whose seriously challenging for the EPL top spot and the CL.

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't Sergi Roberto on sale?
 
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Why would they want to sell him? He's their best player.
Because Southampton aren't a team that can hold off the top teams for too long. Especially when they're struggling as they are this season.
 
Why would they want to sell him? He's their best player.

I agree that its a seller's market but its far less baised then one may think. Mane is not passing from his best season. 7 goals in 27 games is hardly something to be proud off. If Southampton decides to force the hand too much they may end up with an unhappy player + they would lose the chance of making outrageous money out of him
 
I just think they won't sell this month.
If we offer 25-30m then I'm sure they'll let him go, especially after he started kicking up a fuss. It's more of a matter of us going for him rather then them being willing to let him go I think. With Stones, Everton can and will hold out I'm sure if we went for him.
 
We play Southampton on the 23rd. If we're going to sign him this window, it won't be until after that match has been played.
 
Valencia has been a very good RB especially in the league.

There is a shortage of those in world footballl right now. Can you name just 3 good rb's that are obtainable and would be a massive upgrade on him?

This mythical level people keep talking about. You still need good squad players at that level. Think of the 99 UCl final and our starting midfield to see proof of that.

Fabinho, Joao Cancelo, Soares are arguably better than him for example. We've also played against two teams in the Champions League with two decent right-backs; Mario Fernandes (Moscow) and Santiago Arias (PSV). If we are looking for talented right-backs, we could be looking at Tete from Ajax or Almamy Toure from Monaco. I've always liked Valencia and would defend him, but let's not act like we can't improve on him.
 
He hasn't been this season though. A lot of Saints fans seem to want him gone for both his attitude and poor form.

They're garbage right now though, apart from that freak twatting of Arsenal.
Ive watched every game he has played this season, clearly their best player and just once this season during a game did he show any petulance but that may have been frustration as he had to go off injured. Of course there is this weeks incident but he has still been their best player all season.
 
Might sound bonkers but how about we loan them Mata until the end of the season in return for them selling us Mane now, If Mane comes in it likely to be in place of Mata and we could use Lingard as cover for Mane on the right.

The only other position for Mata would be the number 10 place, but we have Herrera/Rooney/Fellaini/Periera who can all play there so Mata is unlikely to play much, and for someone who is going to be desperate to play in the Euros he needs to play, at Southampton he most likely would, and if he does and has a great time at Southampton and the Euros it would only increase any potential fee for him, because if LvG is staying then Mata will be off imo.

A bit far fetched I know but it is transfer season.
 
Because Southampton aren't a team that can hold off the top teams for too long. Especially when they're struggling as they are this season.
They managed to hold onto Schneiderlin for another year, and he ended up going to United instead of Spurs.

They aren't under huge pressure to sell in January. It doesn't make business or football sense given that their season has been hit and miss and he's been their best player.
 
Might sound bonkers but how about we loan them Mata until the end of the season in return for them selling us Mane now, If Mane comes in it likely to be in place of Mata and we could use Lingard as cover for Mane on the right.

The only other position for Mata would be the number 10 place, but we have Herrera/Rooney/Fellaini/Periera who can all play there so Mata is unlikely to play much, and for someone who is going to be desperate to play in the Euros he needs to play, at Southampton he most likely would, and if he does and has a great time at Southampton and the Euros it would only increase any potential fee for him, because if LvG is staying then Mata will be off imo.

A bit far fetched I know but it is transfer season.
It's not going to happen because as you said it's bonkers. We're not going to loan Mata.
 
Anything over 30 million would be day light robbery.

It's January and everyone knows we're desperate. The only chance we've got of signing a forward player for under 30mil this month is if we speak to Bolton about the availability of Heskey.
 

Just can't see a use for him long term, he's not a right winger and is not going to be first choice as the number 10, and for a £37 million player on £150 p/wk+ he needs to be.

If LvG stays he is a certainty to be gone, if LvG goes then he stands an outside chance of staying for a while longer.
 
Just can't see a use for him long term, he's not a right winger and is not going to be first choice as the number 10, and for a £37 million player on £150 p/wk+ he needs to be.

If LvG stays he is a certainty to be gone, if LvG goes then he stands an outside chance of staying for a while longer.

Yep agree he simply doesn't warrant a team being built around him as he's not good enough for that, good player in the right set up though. But horribly exposed in this team and looks far worse than he is.
 
Yep agree he simply doesn't warrant a team being built around him as he's not good enough for that, good player in the right set up though. But horribly exposed in this team and looks far worse than he is.

Yep, in the right team he'll look great, but not with us, hard to see where he'll go though given his wages and the fact we'll want to recoup a good proportion of his fee, we don't want to end up giving him away, maybe a Juve/Dortmund/Athletico Madrid sort of player if they could afford him.
 
Hope he is not a Valencia type signing, i.e. decent/fairly (back then). We need real class. Not more ''decent''.
 
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