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KingMinger22 said:
Hope he is not a Valencia type signing, i.e. decent/fairly (back then). We need real class. Not more ''decent''.
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He's more than decent. This guy can be absolute class for us. He could be our Robben from Van Gaal's NL set up :drool: The speed we'll have in our attack with Martial and Mane. Wait for Memphis to get going and next season our attack should be frightening.

Mane could very well have the impact Costa has had at Bayern.
 
Hernandez - BFA said:
He's more than decent. This guy can be absolute class for us. He could be our Robben from Van Gaal's NL set up :drool: The speed we'll have in our attack with Martial and Mane. Wait for Memphis to get going and next season our attack should be frightening.

Mane could very well have the impact Costa has had at Bayern.
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Glad to hear.

This one does seem a no brainer. Particularly for January.

We need several signings, either way.
 
They won't want to sell, nor do they need to.

He looks like he is willing to be a toxic presence in the changing room and on the training pitch to push his move.

Should happen.

I bet it is £35m though. It's 2016's going rate.
 
Mahrez produces more 'wow' moments, but Mane's the better player overall. Much more difficult to mark out of a game, too. My only problem with buying him is that we'll have to sell Januzaj in the Summer to make room. Memphis is going nowhere and LvG is a huge fan of Mata.

Actually, my other problem with Mane is that I'll have to learn how to type an 'e' with an accent.
 
Looks a good player, don't see the point in signing flair players with that negative prick as manager.
 
Dante said:
Mahrez produces more 'wow' moments, but Mane's the better player overall. Much more difficult to mark out of a game, too. My only problem with buying him is that we'll have to sell Januzaj in the Summer to make room. Memphis is going nowhere and LvG is a huge fan of Mata.

Actually, my other problem with Mane is that I'll have to learn how to type an 'e' with an accent.
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I'm not so sure
 
Lawman said:
I'm not so sure
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Not only does he play every single game, he's also the ONLY player in LvG's side that's afforded the freedom to roam away from his position. Rooney, Martial, Lingard, Memphis, Herrera, etc all stick to their positions, more or less. Mata, on the other hand, spends more time in the middle than he does out wide.

He gets special treatment and a guaranteed starting berth. I'd say LvG must like him!

Hell, at the start of 2014/15, we played a 3-5-2 largely to accommodate his roaming in midfield (after Kagawa had failed in the role). Mata is the perfect 'philosophy' player. Impeccable in possession, but still with decent output. Compare him to Di Maria and you'll see that those are the only areas where Mata is superior, so it stands to reason that they're also why ADM was shifted about but Mata has had a special role for the entirety of LvG's reign.

Mata might not be a 'special' player in terms of overall quality, but he certainly is 'special' in terms of what LvG values with his football.
 
Dante said:
Not only does he play every single game, he's also the ONLY player in LvG's side that's afforded the freedom to roam away from his position. Rooney, Martial, Lingard, Memphis, Herrera, etc all stick to their positions, more or less. Mata, on the other hand, spends more time in the middle than he does out wide.

He gets special treatment and a guaranteed starting berth. I'd say LvG must like him!

Hell, at the start of 2014/15, we played a 3-5-2 largely to accommodate his roaming in midfield (after Kagawa had failed in the role). Mata is the perfect 'philosophy' player. Impeccable in possession, but still with decent output. Compare him to Di Maria and you'll see that those are the only areas where Mata is superior, so it stands to reason that they're also why ADM was shifted about but Mata has had a special role for the entirety of LvG's reign.

Mata might not be a 'special' player in terms of overall quality, but he certainly is 'special' in terms of what LvG values with his football.
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Well that's too bad, we would look so much better with an actual RW playing in that position.
 
I can see why we'd look at him in January as he wouldn't require much adaption time theoretically, but given the price it's risky as I'm not sure he's a long term solution.
 
pace, ability to beat players and got some goal in him. something we didn't have much upfront apart from martial.

a no brainer imo. especially if he is available this window.
 
In fairness, he's a very streaky player in terms of goal output. It's true he scored a glut at the tail end of last season, but he's only managed 3 in the league this season. Mata has 4, by way of comparison.
 
Dante said:
Mahrez produces more 'wow' moments, but Mane's the better player overall. Much more difficult to mark out of a game, too. My only problem with buying him is that we'll have to sell Januzaj in the Summer to make room. Memphis is going nowhere and LvG is a huge fan of Mata.

Actually, my other problem with Mane is that I'll have to learn how to type an 'e' with an accent.
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I doubt signing Mane is going to make any difference to Januzaj. He was loaned out when we really could've used him this season, to a team he was unlikely to get a great deal of playing time. Januzaj's only chance here is if LVG is sacked, imo.
 
Tarrou said:
I doubt signing Mane is going to make any difference to Januzaj. He was loaned out when we really could've used him this season, to a team he was unlikely to get a great deal of playing time. Januzaj's only chance here is if LVG is sacked, imo.
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True. But it would be a final confirmation of something I'm dreading.
 
DWelbz19 said:
Did you watch him at RB Salzburg?- If so, did you expect this trajectory?
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Yes I did. Plenty. I didnt think he would make it this far simply due to the fact that the Austrian league is shit. Don't make a mistake here though. He was hands down the best player for Salzburg. Even better than Kampl who is now playing for Dortmund. He was a joy to watch. Very creative, very very quick (actually one of the quickest players around). And now that I see him doing well in the PL I have no doubt he could improve us. We have no one of his quality on the right wing or the #10 position.
 
Seeing Young as only outlet out wide on Saturday makes me want to have a proper winger on the right as soon as possible. Mane is fun to watch and could be unpredictable too with that pace of his.
 
devilish said:
I think that the park the bus tactics will make forwards less relevant. Unless a striker is a Van Basten, he will always struggle against a defence made up of 5-6 players. Hence why we need more quality on the flanks and as no 10. Players who will stretch the defense, exploit the gaps left by the forward and score.

The question is who can do that? While I wouldn't label players like Mahrez and Mane as not M.U.Q quite the contrary. The goal ratio the likes of Mahrez and Mane have is simply astounding. However we also need to acknowledge that its easier to score goals when you're playing with the likes of Southampton and Leicester as no one use the park the bus tactic against them. Actually teams are busier trying to score goals against those teams which means these players have more space to act. I guess the easier answer to that would be, are the player's we're aiming for better to what we have? Its still difficult to answer that because time and time again we've seen players who were absolutely mint elsewhere and who weren't as good as OT (Depay, Young etc).
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Not that the Austrian leauge is comparable to the PL but back then Mane was used to play against deep sitting teams as Salzburg was by far the best team in the league. Literally EVERY team they played against sat back. He still did very well. His close control and dribbling skills allow him to use his pace even in tight situations.
 
Godfather said:
Not that the Austrian leauge is comparable to the PL but back then Mane was used to play against deep sitting teams as Salzburg was by far the best team in the league. Literally EVERY team they played against sat back. He still did very well. His close control and dribbling skills allow him to use his pace even in tight situations.
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That's pretty important actually. I know I'll probably get butchered for this but I am seeing the EPL developing in similar lines to the Serie A pre 90s. Every game is becoming a hurdle as all clubs afford top quality players + defenses are getting tougher by the minute both in terms of quality and numbers (players playing more deep). Under such circumstances its pointless stressing too much on the striker as he will be constantly marked and outgunned. Goals and creativity must come from somewhere else.
 
Stack said:
Ive watched every game he has played this season, clearly their best player and just once this season during a game did he show any petulance but that may have been frustration as he had to go off injured. Of course there is this weeks incident but he has still been their best player all season.
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Every game? Why?
 
KingMinger22 said:
Hope he is not a Valencia type signing, i.e. decent/fairly (back then). We need real class. Not more ''decent''.
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I'd kill for a peak Valencia type player, his loss of form is inexplicable. Hell given our right back issues, I'd rather have the current version fit right now.
 
nokillingmoths said:
Every game? Why?
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If a player catches my eye i will watch them. There are other players in the EPL in other teams than Utd that i watch. I also watch every game Bournemouth play, basically because i like the way they play and its interesting watching a team battle relegation.
 
Stack said:
If a player catches my eye i will watch them. There are other players in the EPL in other teams than Utd that i watch. I also watch every game Bournemouth play, basically because i like the way they play and its interesting watching a team battle relegation.
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Fair enough. Thats proper dedication. Must be a nightmare getting all the games when they clash.
 
2 Man Midfield said:
I was saying just yesterday to a mate of mine how I'd happily pay a decent amount of money to be able to stream every United match in good quality. Is this really every league game?
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Yes, it costs NZ$159 a season. If I have Sky TV I end up having to have a sports package which costs me NZ$80/month which translates to NZ$800/season but includes stuff I simply dont want. So I get every game live and then can watch all games a day or 2 later but then only some games a week later.
 
I want this one to happen but I hope they don't rinse us with regards to the fee as I'm not entirely sure how good he can be.
 
Dante said:
Not only does he play every single game, he's also the ONLY player in LvG's side that's afforded the freedom to roam away from his position. Rooney, Martial, Lingard, Memphis, Herrera, etc all stick to their positions, more or less. Mata, on the other hand, spends more time in the middle than he does out wide.

He gets special treatment and a guaranteed starting berth. I'd say LvG must like him!

Hell, at the start of 2014/15, we played a 3-5-2 largely to accommodate his roaming in midfield (after Kagawa had failed in the role). Mata is the perfect 'philosophy' player. Impeccable in possession, but still with decent output. Compare him to Di Maria and you'll see that those are the only areas where Mata is superior, so it stands to reason that they're also why ADM was shifted about but Mata has had a special role for the entirety of LvG's reign.

Mata might not be a 'special' player in terms of overall quality, but he certainly is 'special' in terms of what LvG values with his football.
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I'm still not convinced Dante. I think Mata is afforded these privileges as LVG 1) has no other real options and 2) recognises how limited Mata is in terms of physical attributes so if we want the best out of Mata we have to afford him certain things like drifting inside more often than not. But it's at the detriment to the team as he is a bit meh. So when and not if we get a right forward I think Mata will be first benched. Will he be moved into the 10 role? I still doubt that but time will tell.
 
londonredmaniac said:
Every chance on wrong here but he's overrated for me.
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I am a huge fan, he has everything I like to see however i admit i am a fan and that in the end prossibly clouds my judgement. The trouble is that today there are so many talented players that the difference between being a big player and a never quite made it is frigtheningly thin.
 
I do think he is being overrated quite a bit by some if you

If we get him and he is as good as Valencia was in his first few seasons I would be delighted

If he was better it would be a major bonus
 
Randall Flagg said:
I do think he is being overrated quite a bit by some if you

If we get him and he is as good as Valencia was in his first few seasons I would be delighted

If he was better it would be a major bonus
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This probably confirms the overrated thing for you but I think he is already better than Valencia ever was and is better than Valencia could ever have been.
 
Randall Flagg said:
I do think he is being overrated quite a bit by some if you

If we get him and he is as good as Valencia was in his first few seasons I would be delighted

If he was better it would be a major bonus
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Agreed, but I think that Mané is much more allround than Valancia ever was and has a better chance of being a long term success at OT. Mané has better close control and can actually dribble. Valencia was a one trick pony even though he was very effective at what he did when he was in his prime and supplied Rooney with all those crosses.
 
Cathy Ferguson said:
Agreed, but I think that Mané is much more allround than Valancia ever was and has a better chance of being a long term success at OT. Mané has better close control and can actually dribble. Valencia was a one trick pony even though he was very effective at what he did when he was in his prime and supplied Rooney with all those crosses.
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I agree with this. He looks a better player - decent feet, good movement and runs all day. He's been one of the better players in the PL since he arrived and given how hard it is to sign players from top clubs in January, he'd be a good addition.

His pace and work ethic would be an asset - and he's only 23.
 
nokillingmoths said:
I very much doubt that is legal in the uk. England: the only country where you can't watch every game in the english premier league...
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It's daft. And if you really want to watch a 3pm kick off, you will find a way. I will put up with the crappiest of streams for a United game if it is all I can find for a 3pm kick off. It's mad that the PL choose not to make money out of it, like all the major American sports are doing. The online platform is the way to go, but football is always 20 years behind other sports.

The NHL's Gamecenter platform should be the base of the PL making their own. Gamecenter only show live games which are not televised nationally (most regular season games are only on local stations). Any games that are televised nationally (or on your local station) can't be watched on their platform for 48 hours, so it wouldn't affect Sky/BT TV money. They could show the 3pm kick offs to those wanting to watch them, and make money out of it through subscriptions, rather than half-heartedly clamping down on illegal streams and offering no alternative.


Anyway. Back on topic. Mane good. Need pace. Mane has pace. Buy.
 
Stack said:
This probably confirms the overrated thing for you but I think he is already better than Valencia ever was and is better than Valencia could ever have been.
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Seriously ? Valencia for his first 2 years here was one of the best RW's in the league, if not the best one.
If mane is really that good and wants to come here we should be going balls to the wall to get him. Our side needs pace asap.
 
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