Ryan Giggs | United confirm he's left
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Leinster won the premier League without much money
He has to rip off the band aid at some point, especially if things don't work out at United. And I think managing in the championship is far better than anywhere else. If it were in the PL or any other top division, there would be endless scrutiny on him by fans, by media etc. Managing in the championship can allow him to go slightly under the radar and help him evolve as a manager. Of course, they want instant results and it's not going to be easy at all, but I'd prefer him sharpening his tools at a club like Forrest, with a pretty good history themselves.
That's expected really. I hope he does well and brings back some glory for Forest. Even a decent cup run would be good.
I have no idea if you did but you made me laugh anyway and now Im looking for a way to use that phrase today
Giggs taking a job at Forest/Bolton etc. will prove that he is serious about the managers role. Even taking the u21s role would prove that though not at Warren Joyces expense as he is working wonders there. (unless Joyce gets promoted to assistant manager by Jose.)
I think it's the best way forward for him and for us. It was very romantic of him being our manager but the results from two successive regimes cannot be overlooked. If he had that x factor then it would have shown even through the mess of Moyes and the apathy of LVG.
The fact that he is considering a championship move shows that he has stagnated here and wants a more meaningful role. I wish him best of luck in his managerial career but the time just isn't right to make the same mistake a third time. We need a clean break from the horrors of the last 3 years. So does he.
The fact that he is considering a championship move shows that he has stagnated here and wants a more meaningful role. I wish him best of luck in his managerial career but the time just isn't right to make the same mistake a third time. We need a clean break from the horrors of the last 3 years. So does he.
Fair enough. I just think that Jose is far more pragmatic than people give him credit for. IMO people are worrying over our younger players like Rashford/TFM for no real reason. Jose is not someone who is blind to talent. I'm quite comfortably sure that they will be part of his plans to rebuild United.
obviously you mean Leicester...Thats great, hopefully soon people will stop using this line as a way to prove a point. What you saw last season was a freak and will almost certainly not be repeated.
The championship is a bitch of a division to get out of. Forest havent been up for many many years
No but it's a fantastic example of what can be accomplished if you can motivate players and utilise them in a system that maximises their strengths and makes them difficult to beat. In this way an argument can be made that money doesn't matter if you spend a ton of money on perceivedly better players but employ them the wrong way (LVG).
either way, that Forest team need a complete revamp
either give him time to develop a strong team with youth and a few bargains which will take time or spent plenty to get out of the division right away
The current Forest side no matter how motivated they are will not be good enough
He could take one or two on loan from us.
He could take half of the squad if he wants
Either way. We should abandon this line of thinking that he has to take over at some point. We shackle ourselves with it.
this one is proving to be as drawn out as the Ibra story.
Can't believe he hasn't gone yet!
Maybe it's going to go down to a referendum.
If its not Giggs then who? United is too big a Club to have total strangers in charge. Not saying it should be Giggs but at least someone who can advise the manager on the United way
Someone who knows the Club will have to be apointed in that Technical team. Its okaynow because people are happy that we have a new manager but once 1 or 2 things go wrong same fans will be up in arms about this issue
Someone who knows the Club will have to be apointed in that Technical team. Its okaynow because people are happy that we have a new manager but once 1 or 2 things go wrong same fans will be up in arms about this issue
We had the perfect opportunity in December to sack LVG and bring Giggs in till the end of the season.
Already being discussed to death. Seeing how it is dragged out and troublesome to part way with Giggs in a much easier understandable circumstance like now: new manager & new back room, imagine Giggs actually took over and have some few good result
. No evidence that Giggs would do better than LVG in term of result, but if we somehow fluked FA cup he would be touted as second coming SAF, even we fall down to true mid table region.I even fear mid table and won no FA Cup would be able to make a huge case for Giggs if he plays the give youth the chance card and gung-ho football card. With that happy, I am content with the way thing turned out. Could be much worse.
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Already being discussed to death. Seeing how it is dragged out and troublesome to part way with Giggs in a much easier understandable circumstance like now: new manager & new back room, imagine Giggs actually took over and have some few good result
I even fear mid table and won no FA Cup would be able to make a huge case for Giggs if he plays the give youth the chance card and gung-ho football card. With that happy, I am content with the way thing turned out. Could be much worse.
If Giggs had helped us finished 3rd (or second) comfortably with the FA cup I would have been more than happy to have seen him get the job. You are taking as if Giggs at United would be sure short failure.
The reason most of wouldn't want him as manager is because he is a gamble and we couldn't afford to take that gamble right now which is why we appointed Mourinho. But at December we could have played it out. We would have lost the same amount we lost now but if he was a success we would have known.
No. That's not my point. My point was it's extreme hard to rid of interim Giggs even in the face of failure if he plays the political card right. I am more than happy if he's a success: top 4 even without FA cup. Thing is it's a huge gamble with a dangerous hook hanging around the club neck.
No use discussing it now but I don't buy the whole political thing. If the board felt Giggs wasn't good enough they would have gotten rid.
Is this at all necessary? You really should practice what you preach.Your recent posting would make me say WUM
All sorts of bollocks from you these past few days
Edit - @Damien Surely this guy is a complete wum, his previous posts are awful
I think to some extend Giggs gets blamed for things he had no control over. How many Assistant Managers actually influence team selection and tactics when we all know that if things go wrong its the Manager who gets the blame. The best he can do is to just give suggestions and opinions which the Manager can take or disregard.
Giggs getting a taste of a possible job for next season i feel.
Clear sign that he has gone. Preseason training starts next week.
Interesting decision. A bit smart of him as well. If he does an impressive job, clubs will take notice and might offer him a position.
You're probably right - it's 'shop window' stuff from Giggs, surely. What a ridiculous state British football's in: "Someone's good on the telly, so let's give him a management position at our club!"
He needs to make sure he says things like "He can do a job" "He's got good feet for a big man" and "goals win games" as often as possible. It's worked well for other British managers throughout the years.
The United job is taken thankfully so let him have the England job. Fairly similar (at a stretch). A massive undertaking in a high pressure role that's quite often thankless. And it makes about as much logical sense as him getting the United job.
Odd that he will be appearing on ITV while training starts again. Wonder how he will handle the question of 'whats your current role Giggsy'?
Odd that he will be appearing on ITV while training starts again. Wonder how he will handle the question of 'whats your current role Giggsy'?
Wouldn't really say its him making a smart decision. Think he is lacking options
Clubs don't hire pundits because they are impressed with their TV work. It happened for Neville because he was friends with the Valencia owner
Maybe he's going to hijack air time to go on a rage during live tv.
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Reminds me of when Brent was made redundant in The Office but, he wouldn't let go...
"Who wants to have a meeting with me?"
"Who wants to go for a drink with me?"
"Who wants to have a meeting with me?"
"Who wants to go for a drink with me?"
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