Arsenal have Steve Bould as their no. 2 mate, a man who's among Arsenal's highest-ever appearance makers and won tons of trophies at the club. OK he's not a legend like Giggs but he's just as enmeshed in their club as Giggs is in ours.
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He is also considered a very good defensive coach. Also he won the u18s prem league trophy two years running for arsenal and F.A. youth cup for arsenal under 18's. He was also head of youth development. I dont think arsenal have won any honours in youth level since.
The problem with giggs is his sense of entitlement that he should get the job when everyone has to work for the opportunity. I am sure zidane's and pep's example has been shown many times. He should have taken the under 18 job or become the head of youth academy, or even take the reserves. Do something!
All he has done is been part of 2 failed regime's and he should have been sacked for the same. Steve bould has worked his way to the assitant manager job so should giggs.
Giggs isn't stupid. I doubt he woke up one day thinking that he would one day be United's manager despite having zilc experience as manager . If that was the case then surely that wouldn't apply to the other former reds who parroted this madness again and again. Surely someone influential has whispered this stupid idea in Giggs ear.
If you ask me, I believe that Giggs coaching career had been mismanaged by those who should have made sure that this thing would never happen. Giggs should have started low with no promises attached just as Phelan did. If he accepted the role, he proved to be good enough in it and the manager liked what he was doing then he should have been given bigger responsibilities. Instead we gave him a top role, we paired him with a manager whose philosophy differed greatly from his and we had probably promised him the top job, something that shouldn't have happened in the first place. It comes with no surprise why Mou doesn't want him as assistant and why Giggs is reluctant to take a stepdown. The former doesn't want a rookie as assistant especially one who believe that the manager 'stole his job'. The latter was made to believe that he's the next big thing only to be demoted and made to feel inadequate.
Hence why I strongly believe that the club is in desperate need of an experienced DOF. Someone from outside, whose not driven by the bias and the agendas of those who had been in the club for years and who can hopefully take some sane decisions. Its time we put the club at top priority again
Giggs. The cuckolder feels he's been jilted. Emotion must be the same as when all those female Barry Manilow fans found out he was not. Straight.
No rookie coach would wake up one day, thinking he will soon manage one of the best clubs in the world by staying put and do nothing. If that happened then surely it won't be repeated by so many legends who surely they have enough IQ to understand the madness behind it.
Someone influential must have told him that he was on course of getting the job. Someone whose got the respect of a wide variety of former reds who takes everything this man says as gospel
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Really hope he does well, if true. Not sure about Forest as a club, though. Their ownership isn't the best, from what I know. Huge potential there, though.
Nottingham Forest might be a good job for his first job as a manager. If his end goal is the United job, then he'll much more than Forest on his CV.
If we needed Giggs to succeed then we would be in for a very rocky future.
Jesus God no
It would be hard to pick a more perfect championship club
Returning Forest to the PL would be a big feather in his cap
But as far as Im aware they dont have much money
James Wilson on loan...
Giggs dont need money, he's a big fan of promoting youth and doing things that way.. Or so they say one here.
Giggs to Nottingham, Gaz to Sky....this gets better and better at each passing day
Even if Giggs isn't actually qualified to handle the role well? And what does this have to do with Arsenal?
Be very interesting to see how he does if this happened. Would like to see some of our youngsters go there on loan too.
Obviously still thinks there's 4 women to 1 man there.
You don't have to have played for United to know the history of the club, you are on the internet you know. What can Giggs teach them that Rooney can't or what tales of our magnificent history can't be found online or in a book sold by the megastore. SBC, SAF and the rest of the elder statesmen of the club regularly attend matches and functions so no problems there.
What has Arsenal got to do with it? A playing legend like Giggs will be preserved in memory but a guy with a private life that resembles the toilet in Trainspotting should disqualify you from an "important position" to promote our soul and passion.
Mourinho will be managing United longer then Giggs if he was gifted the job in my opinion. Reports he wants to take a break speaks volumes. He has not been ridiculed like Moyes, LVG and the rest of the coaching staff. He has been championed for the managers job by big hitters within the club but never ever had many supporters calling for his promotion, jobs for the boys. He has a wonderful opertunity to go and stake a claim in the world of football management but needs a break. This maybe down to the turmoil in his family life to which he had a massive part in by all accounts. Is this a person we want anywhere near the top job when such a huge challenge lies ahead?
Giggs to Forest would be brilliant in truth. They're a club with a good history as well. He'd probably loan some of our boys like Wilson, Tuanzebe and getting promoted to the PL will give him massive credit as well. Hope he does well if he goes there. But the report is from one of the Daily's, so not sure how accurate it is.
Absolute bobbins!!
I'm not british, I hope i used that expression correctly.
I think he would be in for a big shock if he goes there. How many managers have they been through in the past 10 years?
Edit: 13 managers in 10 years. He would have to get results straight away and do very well too otherwise he would be out the door. It wouldn't be a club I would want to start my managerial career at.
Careful! If you've taken that from a Duncan Castles' piece from a while back it's been shown to be full of untruths. Best check how many of those players were actually given more than a few minutes in the first team under Mourinho, and how many of them were actually products of their club's youth academies. The fact is that Mourinho has said he "can't do it" - as in promote youngsters. Look at Solanke at Chelsea. Won all sorts of plaudits and individual awards and was limited to a bit part in a dead rubber game. He really doesn't have "a history of bringing through" youngsters from the academy. He prefers to buy ready-made players from other clubs.
Would be a good job for him and exciting for us to see how he does.
Looking at their fan forums most are against the appointment as you'd expect. Largely for the same reasons people don't want him to be the United manager yet.
it's not assistant manager's job to educate new players about history of the club I'm sure we could do him a favour with a couple of our young lads.
In my opinion he wasted two years being assistant manager. He was already kinda late to the manager game because he played till he was 40. It was evident that no big team was going to give him a manager position. So as soon as he found out we were after LVG he should have gone to a Championship team or a lower level premier league team. Now everything has been delayed more than 2 years. Clubs see the whole Van Gaal regime as a failure and Giggs was part of that regime. Even if a premier league team was thinking of giving the job may not be so kind now. The best place to start for him would be the Championship or if he wants to take a big risk then abroad. Either way he needs to get a move on if he wants to become a big manager.
I feel that with all that's going on around the club right now that this is falling under the radar slightly. I think Giggs' situation at the club has been one of the most bizarre aspects of the last three years and he - more than anyone - personifies the issues that have hit us.
I guess a few questions that I have surrounding Giggs at the club is that if Fergie was so desperate about Giggs one day managing the club, why didn't he take him under his wing whilst he was still in charge? This for me is one of the main reasons why I never really bought the calls for him to follow LVG when it became clear LVG's role was untenable.
I guess a few questions that I have surrounding Giggs at the club is that if Fergie was so desperate about Giggs one day managing the club, why didn't he take him under his wing whilst he was still in charge? This for me is one of the main reasons why I never really bought the calls for him to follow LVG when it became clear LVG's role was untenable.
Giggs will leave. we should thank him for the service and move on
Yes indeed. A case of being overly sentimental and accepting low standards. Giggs should never have been assistant manager nor been allowed to manage us for four games. For a club of our size we haven't half made a lot of amateurish mistakes since Ferguson left. Mind you, Ferguson was the one who started the ball rolling as far as our decline goes; what with leaving the squad to stagnate and then choosing an unqualified successor. At least we look to finally be trying to make amends for it all. Although rather depressingly if Ferguson had his way again Giggs would be our manager now.
Absolutely. I do feel for Giggs in all this. I think, had we dealt with the transition from Ferguon (and as you pointed out, the years running up to this) better there would have been a way of transitioning Giggs into a leading role at the club, but I feel now - certainly in the short run - this would be a mistake to pursue.
I don't think there was anything wrong with letting Giggs get the four games that season. The club however shouldn't have given the impression that Giggs was a candidate for the Job then or in the future.
He certainly shouldn't have been LVG's assistant unless LVG wanted it and asked for it. I don't think he did.
There's enough to think the club actually planned or even promised the Job to Giggs once LVG left. That was completely daft.
If the correct decision had been made and Jose Mourinho had been appointed right after Fergie, Giggs situation would have been Jose's matter to decide.
Haven't read any of Castle's articles ever in my life actually. Sahar I remember from watching Chelsea, and you can't argue with players like Balotelli, Santone, Varane, Carvalho, and Loftus-Cheek.
I'm not going to spend too much time on this but... Sahar was bought and used very rarely. I could look up the total number of minutes but as a guess I'd say less than 45 minutes total in premier league games for chelsea. Balotelli was also bought and used (by Mancini?) before Jose arrived and the two didn't get on. Santone is available again it seems - going to either Watford or Palace. Maybe if Jose has faith in him we could see him at OT? Maybe not. I'm sorry I'm too lazy to respond properly. I'm sure it's a myth though that Jose has a history of promoting youth.
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