You've always had a problem with the Germans, especially after they tore down that wall you built.any new manager bounce will always be negated if the manager is bald or german.
You've always had a problem with the Germans, especially after they tore down that wall you built.any new manager bounce will always be negated if the manager is bald or german.
We kinda did have one under ten Hag. His first two games were awful but after that we had a decent spell which ultimately culminated in winning the League Cup.We didn't get a new manager bounce with Rangnick or Ten Hag so we're due one, and by my calculations we should go on a solid 20 league game unbeaten run.
Can someone explain why United changed their manager priority?
From The Athletic...
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5883160/2024/10/30/ten-hag-amorim-welbeck-berrada/
It seemed like the number 1 chose in the summer was Tuchel and Amorim was not considered as "after conversations both parties decided the time wasn’t right then".
Yet fast forward to October and Tuchel was not considered and Amorim became the priority?
What changed? Was this just down to Amorims hot start for Sporting?
Yeah I can see the appeal with Tuchel given the short term turnaround/bounce is guaranteed but long term I feel we made the better choice. Much more progressive, more attacking, younger etc.I am still 50:50 over those two. I am super happy with Amorim but damn, i rate Tuchel so much.
I don't have any feeling of sympathy for Sporting.
I'm delighted we're being ruthless and going for what we want. If us getting a top manager at the expense of Sporting's season means we avoid just getting an out of work manager like Potter or Southgate, then to be frank, tough sh*t Sporting.
Not our problem.
This is actually a fair point. If you’re CEO and DOF didn’t talk to any candidates then the whole process is kinda iffy. But I also understand INEOS couldn’t wait till July 1 to start conducting interviews. So I’m glad Omar and Ashworth have stamped their authority and gone with the right candidate at their first opportunity of choosing one.They didn't change priority.. they interviewed Tuchel and decided he isn't the guy. He was interviewed by INEOS not the CEO and DoF
The reason he is first choice now, Omar Berrada and Ashworth think he is the right man, in the summer they were not there.
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What a bounce that wasBring back the ole bounce!
Yeah but in life you have a choice to not be a dick about things.I don't have any feeling of sympathy for Sporting.
I'm delighted we're being ruthless and going for what we want. If us getting a top manager at the expense of Sporting's season means we avoid just getting an out of work manager like Potter or Southgate, then to be frank, tough sh*t Sporting.
Not our problem.
people just didn’t understand the wall. it was supposed to bring people together by grouping them by nationality and race and then just getting rid of the ones we didn’t like.You've always had a problem with the Germans, especially after they tore down that wall you built.
i’d back pep ‘the 1-1-5’ guardiola. he’ll be juiced to the eyeballs and coked up on the night. abu dhabi will tamper with the blood work and swap his out for that of a 19 year old virile boy with a full head of hair.
They didn't change priority.. they interviewed Tuchel and decided he isn't the guy. He was interviewed by INEOS not the CEO and DoF
The reason he is first choice now, Omar Berrada and Ashworth think he is the right man, in the summer they were not there.
its nothing to do with Sporting's start to the season, its to do with his last 5 years.
I agree with this. People wanted ETH out(he deserves the sacking, no question about that) but then also claim that squad is piss poor and nowhere near top 4 quality.
I believe we have a squad capable of competing for top 4. Yes, Liverpool, Arsenal, and City stand out as stronger teams, but there isn’t a significant gap between us and clubs like Chelsea, Aston Villa, Tottenham, and Newcastle. I've seen enough of their games this season and they're not that much better than us. If Amorim has anything about him he should be getting us to compete among those teams easily. Newcastle, in particular, has recently begun to earn results that reflect their actual performances, especially considering how lucky they've been earlier in the season to get their wins. Similarly, Tottenham has been just as inconsistent as we have.
There seems to be a contradiction where people criticize Erik ten Hag for signing his former players while simultaneously expecting Ruben Amorim to do the same. It’s amusing to see the constant fawning for Gyokeres. Amorim is being brought in with the hope of maximizing our current squad's potential too. Like you said, if Amorim has the qualities we hope for, he should be able to extract the best from players like Hojlund, who shares a similar profile to Gyokeres.
Really difficult to see some of these players lasting long with Amorin after watching them play yesterday (it was very impressive).
The centre backs go very, very wide and Martinez just isn't good at defending wide areas, I can see him slowly being phased out because to cover that space you do need a bit more athleticism.
The width comes from the fullbacks, so your 10s have to be really good with their short intricate passing and one-twos, they also need to be fairly good at carrying the ball. Bruno isn't really very good at that. In fact the best players there are for that kind of role would be Amad and Mainoo.
I'd also worry for Rashford, Rasmus and Garnacho, they don't really have any of the technical security the best forwards too.
This is actually a fair point. If you’re CEO and DOF didn’t talk to any candidates then the whole process is kinda iffy. But I also understand INEOS couldn’t wait till July 1 to start conducting interviews. So I’m glad Omar and Ashworth have stamped their authority and gone with the right candidate at their first opportunity of choosing one.
We all know ETH wasn’t a good communicator. It doesn’t look like Ruben is going to have that issue.the same was said of EtH to be fair and there are reports that he was too strict but let's see what happens.
Agree with this. Seems almost certain we'll go in for Branthwaite again, especially if he doesn't sign a new contract. I imagine that hope is why he hasn't so far. Although, Amorim might prefer other targets, so maybe Diomande isn't totally out of the question. I'd still prefer Branthwaite as the other channel defender though.He won't demand Gyökeres, because we have Hojlund who can be turned into a scoring machine, much like the Swede. For free. He won't demand Diomande, because we've just signed Leny Yoro, who was the much more coveted CB prospect of the two, and Diomande wouldn't be the only option if we wanted to add another wide defender to the squad (which will happen IMO, but it will be Branthwaite). He also won't demand Inácio when he will already have Martínez for the same role within his system.
If we want Branthwaite then the easier option to get him is if Everton get relegated. They aren’t going to budge on their ridiculous valuation and we aren’t going to pay it, especially cause we have to pay this £30m towards hiring and firing new staff.Agree with this. Seems almost certain we'll go in for Branthwaite again, especially if he doesn't sign a new contract. I imagine that hope is why he hasn't so far. Although, Amorim might prefer other targets, so maybe Diomande isn't totally out of the question. I'd still prefer Branthwaite as the other channel defender though.
Oh I'm not being a dick about it, just saying after everything we've endured it's nice that we're being ruthless.Yeah but in life you have a choice to not be a dick about things.
Well your POV about this definitely screams dickishness. We weren’t entitled to anything cause we are richer than Sporting. Sure we haven’t had the best of times this past decade but Sporting were in the same situation until Ruben came along.Oh I'm not being a dick about it, just saying after everything we've endured it's nice that we're being ruthless.
He turfed out a load of shite when he took over Sporting including some of their regular starters at the time, promoted B-team/youth players.Hope its true!
That's exactly what happens when triggering a release clause during springWhat kind of bullshitary is this? The point of a release clause is that you don’t have to go through any of these stupid negotiations etc it would be like us telling a player they have to play for the rest of the season even though the release clause was met. It’s stupid.
The latter is pretty much a certainty, can’t see as something toThis is beautiful. I hope it's true and he is fully backed.
Usually you can, as long as both parties agree to it.So if they are willing to waive the 30 day waiting period then it isn’t law as some have said. You can’t just waive the law aside for money.
Yeah, you are.Oh I'm not being a dick about it, just saying after everything we've endured it's nice that we're being ruthless.
Every managerial appointment in history?Has a familiar ring. Where have I heard this all before?
True, they are usually done in summer so not an issue usually.That's exactly what happens when triggering a release clause during spring
They never really used the glory holes, either.people just didn’t understand the wall. it was supposed to bring people together by grouping them by nationality and race and then just getting rid of the ones we didn’t like.