The ghost of Helmut Kohl will make you regret those words.
Ruben Amorim | United meet Sporting release clause
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) are here to give their reaction just hours after the news has broke. Where did it all go wrong for ETH? What's next for United? and what were the highlights?
They also react to United's loss away at West Ham, including a breakdown of that ridiculous VAR decision.
The ghost of Helmut Kohl will make you regret those words.
You've always had a problem with the Germans, especially after they tore down that wall you built.
I'd love to see him do this to the players. Proper old school, proper Brexit
We kinda did have one under ten Hag. His first two games were awful but after that we had a decent spell which ultimately culminated in winning the League Cup.
They didn't change priority.. they interviewed Tuchel and decided he isn't the guy. He was interviewed by INEOS not the CEO and DoF
The reason he is first choice now, Omar Berrada and Ashworth think he is the right man, in the summer they were not there.
its nothing to do with Sporting's start to the season, its to do with his last 5 years.
Yeah I can see the appeal with Tuchel given the short term turnaround/bounce is guaranteed but long term I feel we made the better choice. Much more progressive, more attacking, younger etc.
We, as fans, don't have to be so cynical about it. They are a likeable club with which we have done good business more often than not: Ronaldo, Nani and Bruno Fernandes.
As it stands, they are about to lose the manager who broke the Benfica/Porto duopoly and turned them into a true force in their domestic league. They knew the time for Amorim to move upward would come, sooner rather than later, thus the very reasonable release clause for the "big" clubs. But football isn't like other businesses, there's a lot of emotion in it. And there should be, the fans' feelings should be respected.
Amorim is the next United manager. I'm perfectly fine with their upper management "putting up a fight" to show their fanbase that they understand their frustrations (up to a point), even if it means that RvN will sit on the bench for a few more games.
This is actually a fair point. If you’re CEO and DOF didn’t talk to any candidates then the whole process is kinda iffy. But I also understand INEOS couldn’t wait till July 1 to start conducting interviews. So I’m glad Omar and Ashworth have stamped their authority and gone with the right candidate at their first opportunity of choosing one.
What a bounce that was
Yeah but in life you have a choice to not be a dick about things.
people just didn’t understand the wall. it was supposed to bring people together by grouping them by nationality and race and then just getting rid of the ones we didn’t like.
True. Berrada and Asworth started July. You don't think either had any comms with INEOS prior re managers? You dont think Berrada would have said to INEOS to consider Amorim in May?
And without Berrada and Ashworth, why would INEOS start interviewing 6 weeks earlier?
All feels a bit scattergun, but i think we have the right man in the end.
100% agreed.
There will be 27-29 games left in the league season when Amorim takes over. If he's a manager worth his salt, then he should be able to guide us to around ~65 points in the end IMO, considering the strength of the squad.
The other top 4 contenders are going to drop a lot of points and be inconsistent, too.
I get what you are saying with Martínez as a wide CB. He would have to be a CCB but then De Ligt / Maguire misses out or plays as the wide defender, which is far from ideal. It's probably better to play Lindelöf/Evans there instead at LCB, if Yoro is going to take up the RCB spot. And Martínez isn't a better CCB than MdL/Maguire from a defensive point of view. He would have to do most of the organizing as well from there.
Next summer a wide defender comes in IMO like you suggest, Branthwaite or a similar profile.
Exactly, I have been trying to explain this to a few people on here who were losing their sh** on INEOS.
It would be cutting the legs of the CEO and DoF if you hire someone weeks before the structure being appointed.
This gave Omar and Dan 3 months to review, conduct research on who they should get. They have done that and and come up with a better candidate than we had in June.
This is beautiful. I hope it's true and he is fully backed.
the same was said of EtH to be fair and there are reports that said he was too strict but let's see what happens.
Fair enough from Sporting’s standpoint.
We all know ETH wasn’t a good communicator. It doesn’t look like Ruben is going to have that issue.
Agree with this. Seems almost certain we'll go in for Branthwaite again, especially if he doesn't sign a new contract. I imagine that hope is why he hasn't so far. Although, Amorim might prefer other targets, so maybe Diomande isn't totally out of the question. I'd still prefer Branthwaite as the other channel defender though.
If we want Branthwaite then the easier option to get him is if Everton get relegated. They aren’t going to budge on their ridiculous valuation and we aren’t going to pay it, especially cause we have to pay this £30m towards hiring and firing new staff.
Oh I'm not being a dick about it, just saying after everything we've endured it's nice that we're being ruthless.
Cool. I fully expect a meltdown in eighteen months now.
But in all seriousness, Kaveh didn't even know that Amorim was being approached a few hours before it happened so how he knows this now I have no idea.
Hope its true!
What kind of bullshitary is this? The point of a release clause is that you don’t have to go through any of these stupid negotiations etc it would be like us telling a player they have to play for the rest of the season even though the release clause was met. It’s stupid.
Well your POV about this definitely screams dickishness. We weren’t entitled to anything cause we are richer than Sporting. Sure we haven’t had the best of times this past decade but Sporting were in the same situation until Ruben came along.
He turfed out a load of shite when he took over Sporting including some of their regular starters at the time, promoted B-team/youth players.
That's exactly what happens when triggering a release clause during spring
The latter is pretty much a certainty, can’t see as something to
worry about even slightly.
Usually you can, as long as both parties agree to it.
Yeah, you are.
Every managerial appointment in history?
Seems all the Twitter pundits are clutching at straws for content to make them appear as if they actually know something.
True, they are usually done in summer so not an issue usually.
Yeah... goodbye Ruben, it was nice while it lasted.