If it’s the compensation for his coaches holding up an announcement, that makes more sense.
Ruben Amorim | United meet Sporting release clause
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) are here to give their reaction just hours after the news has broke. Where did it all go wrong for ETH? What's next for United? and what were the highlights?
They also react to United's loss away at West Ham, including a breakdown of that ridiculous VAR decision.
If it’s the compensation for his coaches holding up an announcement, that makes more sense.
I'm not sure why people would want him to make his or United's relationship with Sporting messed up by leaving on bad teams?
At a guess, that's not what he would want - he's been important to them and if only as a matter of pride and courtesy he'll want to leave with professional relationships intact.
Now throw in the fact that we're apparently also trying to bring over some of his coaching team - professional relationships need to be preserved. So what if it means waiting a week - what do we actually imagine he would be doing with the team prior to the Chelsea match.
Of course I'd like him and any colleagues he's bringing to be sat in the stand at that game ready to take over. But even if that's not possible - I think a bit of dignity and respect is not a bad thing for Sporting to expect.
In practice I expect we're doing the usual to-ing and fro-ing about friendly matches and loan deals and extra cash to bridge the gap and he'll be here soon. But I don't think it matters much whether that's before or after Sporting's next match.
At a guess, that's not what he would want - he's been important to them and if only as a matter of pride and courtesy he'll want to leave with professional relationships intact.
Now throw in the fact that we're apparently also trying to bring over some of his coaching team - professional relationships need to be preserved. So what if it means waiting a week - what do we actually imagine he would be doing with the team prior to the Chelsea match.
Of course I'd like him and any colleagues he's bringing to be sat in the stand at that game ready to take over. But even if that's not possible - I think a bit of dignity and respect is not a bad thing for Sporting to expect.
In practice I expect we're doing the usual to-ing and fro-ing about friendly matches and loan deals and extra cash to bridge the gap and he'll be here soon. But I don't think it matters much whether that's before or after Sporting's next match.
Disappointed developments today. Was hoping this would be done and dusted and announced at HT tonight.
Considering Sporting is going to lose their manager mid season and a manager they themselves paid a hefty fee to get, asking for 4m more ( on top of what they paid for Amorim) is not that excessive. We will probably pay 1-2m and settle this. We have always had good relations with Sporting
Not really if it’s only a month. Ruud can take us up to the intl break no problem. I do t think it will come to that though.
Main difference is that the CEO and DOF weren't in place back when those conversations happened.
You say that now, but just wait till Amorim rejects us after trying public transport!
Yes, people who hopefully wouldn’t consider Tuchel - also, he has another job now.
We should hold his beer while he pulls a Mourinho!
Seriously though, if we are paying to break his contract with SCP then I don’t see how parts of it apply and others don’t. Shouldn’t it be a clean break?
This is the Brexit of managerial appointments. Amorexit.
There are usually a lot of Managerial changes in mid to late November. Other clubs may well have reached out to see if Amorim was interested and his agent is bound to have let United know about this interest - I suspect some surprisingly big clubs came in with a potential interest. Given Tuchel was out of the equation the United board may have felt they had to make a decision now to take Amorim off the table.
IF we see a club rapidly snap up EtH in the coming few days / week then that might be a hint as to who this might have been.
We saw with Rangnick that a lengthy "caretaker" period won't work as the coach has no authority over the players and this is probably what the club faced if they wanted to go after the next likely target in Nagelsmann.
Tuchel was the first choice in the summer and turned down the offer, for whatever reason.
Brutal.
Really difficult to see some of these players lasting long with Amorin after watching them play yesterday (it was very impressive).
The centre backs go very, very wide and Martinez just isn't good at defending wide areas, I can see him slowly being phased out because to cover that space you do need a bit more athleticism.
The width comes from the fullbacks, so your 10s have to be really good with their short intricate passing and one-twos, they also need to be fairly good at carrying the ball. Bruno isn't really very good at that. In fact the best players there are for that kind of role would be Amad and Mainoo.
I'd also worry for Rashford, Rasmus and Garnacho, they don't really have any of the technical security the best forwards too.
I've said this earlier in this thread but it seems more of a speculative article to me. Feels like Whitwell has been doing more of these since this summer. Probably lost his sources since new leadership team has come in?
He was pushing for Toney in the summer, even mentioned DCL at some point in his articles but never Welbeck. Now he suddenly knows we were discussing about Welbeck in the summer?
Sports journalists speculating instead of posting facts? That can't be....
To be fair, Athletic have the best sources to the point where a lot of people take their articles as fact. I dunno, Whitwell seems to be off since this summer.
Of course, i realize this. But we could all see the writing was on the wall for ETH. The article says.....
Tuchel was not considered on this occasion, prompting him to accept the England job this month.
Do we know he turned us down?
Lots of possibilities. Antony can play both sides as wing back, as well as Amad and Garnacho.
Impatience mostly. The new toy must be secured so we can start tearing strips off him!
Anyone else feel worried by the lack of progress here? Could become another Thiago and we end up with Southgatez
I applies to every employee in Portugal in the context of an unilateral termination of a contract.
Edit: In Portugal the legal notice period is 30 days if there is under 2 years left in the contract or 60 days beyond 2 years.
I’m sure that was a factor
Ah, sorry, didn't realise that. Strange then.
Seems pretty obvious to me that neither United nor Sporting would have any interest in having Amorim and his staff serve the 30-day notice.
Both would wind up with their players in relative limbo, which can't be a good thing.
That said, Sporting need to find a replacemente and put them in place. The most reasonable agreement would be a lower "notice premium" and the switch executed at the start of the international break giving both new managers a couple of weeks to settle, get to grips with a new challenge and their squaddies.
That break would be a completely useless waste of time/wages for both clubs otherwise.
Both would wind up with their players in relative limbo, which can't be a good thing.
That said, Sporting need to find a replacemente and put them in place. The most reasonable agreement would be a lower "notice premium" and the switch executed at the start of the international break giving both new managers a couple of weeks to settle, get to grips with a new challenge and their squaddies.
That break would be a completely useless waste of time/wages for both clubs otherwise.
Nope
Do we even want his backroom team? One guy seems fine but 4m for people that are probably going to get sacked when they appoint their new coach seems a bit too steep.
They have the replacement already
I'd rather Gareth Gatez
You have been working on that overnight I bet
No.
Very little in that tweet makes any sense.
It’s been two days
Peoples morals go out the window when it comes to football.
Negotiate in good faith and be a bit patient and he'll be here within the week.
Portuguese media seemingly trying to pressure us into paying up.
As if Amorim, who has bled Sporting for years now, suddenly stops caring at all about his current job only because he is about to take a new job. Of course he will do his job until he has completed the move.
There's nothing to worry. He will become your manager. It's just posturing and politics now. They will end up settling and I believe he will be in Manchester by the weekend.